Okay then, discussion over. Anyone that disagrees is completely delusional. Alrighty!
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Glossy or Matte
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Okay then, discussion over. Anyone that disagrees is completely delusional. Alrighty!
Okay then, discussion over. Anyone that disagrees is completely delusional. Alrighty!
It's rare for someone to have such excellent skills of understanding and comprehension such as yourself.
Congratulations on being the 1%. The world needs more people like you.
"Acceptable whites" is purely subjective and to say anyone that thinks so is completely delusional is excessive hyperbole. But hey, thanks for the vote of confidence.
Light-matte. I hate full glossy, it pumps up colors and makes things surreal.
I do a lot of photo work, and semi-matte is much closer to printed results than glossy that artificially pumps up the contrast and colors.
IMO, IPS is the bigger improvement. IPS semi-matte FTW.
I do a lot of photo work, and semi-matte is much closer to printed results than glossy that artificially pumps up the contrast and colors.
IMO, IPS is the bigger improvement. IPS semi-matte FTW.
A high-gloss surface allows the light from an image to be directly transmitted to the viewer’s eye without being diffused. Diffused light blurs the crispness of an image, blurs the richness of colors and reduces the darkness of the darkest of black pixels thereby decreasing contrast.
i copy pasted this from this article which looks to be written by a phd in the subject. http://www.screentekinc.com/pixelbright-lcds.shtml. still matte screens might be easier on the eyes for long sessions since not as much light gets to ur eye. and the diff between semi gloss and gloss i probably minor, or maybe not judging by the comment abo. Glad to see this discussed tho as i havent bought my new monitor(s) yet.
i copy pasted this from this article which looks to be written by a phd in the subject. http://www.screentekinc.com/pixelbright-lcds.shtml. still matte screens might be easier on the eyes for long sessions since not as much light gets to ur eye. and the diff between semi gloss and gloss i probably minor, or maybe not judging by the comment abo. Glad to see this discussed tho as i havent bought my new monitor(s) yet.
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I wouldn't trust any myth written by anyone on the Internet.
I don't know what semi-gloss is exactly. If the screen on 2713h is semi-gloss, it is %90 on the way to matte (just without its quoting) and only %10 close to the glossy.
I would suggest you stop trying to mystify the issue (that article is really off). It doesn't help you. If you have to decide which screen type to get, just go to a store and compare them by your own eyes and make your own choice. Obviously people have different preferences for matte or glossy. So you could possibly belong to one camp or the other. Only remember, if you ever realized what you got is not for you want and you made the wrong choice, you don't have to stick to it. You can always change your mind later (like what I did) and change your screen. Best of luck.
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I think glossy screens generally help to make Apple screens look so magnificent, there's a reason they went with glossy.
Personally for my, my HP's matte screen is awesome, because it's used a LOT in the classroom where there are random glares and such
Personally for my, my HP's matte screen is awesome, because it's used a LOT in the classroom where there are random glares and such
I have (but don't use anymore) a NEC 20WGX2, that is glossy, fantastic picture. I now use the PB278Q ("semi-gloss", which I would call light AG in reality). I don't notice it being any handicap, fantastic colours and easy to read text (the big problem with aggressive AG coatings),
My preference is Glossy > Light AG but the finish on this Asus is a perfect compromise IMO.
My preference is Glossy > Light AG but the finish on this Asus is a perfect compromise IMO.
Read that 1000 times and let it get a nice spot in your heads. You want us to stop this, manufacturers? Give this to us and we stop it in a heart beat. I will make sure to reward the very first company in the very best way I can by buying and promoting their products in the best way I can. Ofc, samsung excluded.
And if I were a matte lover I would just stop being against the glossy crowds that want a product for them cause the only thing you will get is more and more people desiring to do more about this then whinning over the internet for their long time wanted item.
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I think what really makes Apple screen look magnificent is the slick looking enclosure and the label 'Apple' printed on them!
Honestly I'm not sure how much the outrage in the forums reaches the manufacturers. I wonder how much of their buyers are actual consumers vs business purchases? Why appease some folks on a forum when a business will buy a few pallets worth in one go?
I find it funny that you call folks matte lovers
Well I would state that consumers have spoken and manufacturers have listened. Anecdotal evidence indicates that full gloss and full matte generate the most consumer complaints - with semi glossy generating the least complaints. Fact of the matter is, semi glossy produces 90% of the vibrance of full gloss without staring into a mirror, so it is absolutely the best compromise. Meanwhile, full gloss is unusable unless you're in 100% complete pitch darkness, while full matte generates image shimmering on white backgrounds. For more anecdotal evidence about consumers disliking full matte, simply google u2711 or u3011 anti glare. Consumers don't like it. Similarly, there are a lot of complaints about full gloss as well.
I won't state that one answer is the best for all as some other arrogant posters have, but I do feel that semi glossy is the best compromise. Glossy does have good attributes. Full matte has good attributes in business lit environments. But, seeing that all manufactures have nearly universally switched to semi gloss in 2013 is telling. Consumers have spoken.
I won't state that one answer is the best for all as some other arrogant posters have, but I do feel that semi glossy is the best compromise. Glossy does have good attributes. Full matte has good attributes in business lit environments. But, seeing that all manufactures have nearly universally switched to semi gloss in 2013 is telling. Consumers have spoken.
I have to ask why peoples egos are so heavily invested in this topic at all. Isn't it a personal preference issue based on people sitting in front of the screens themselves and making a determination of what they like best overall?
You have to sit in front of these monitors for years on end, no? So why wouldn't you get the type of coating that will suit you best? Upthread I opted for the matte/semi-matte finish of the Qnix 27's over the glossy because the glossy just reflected everything, regardless of light condition and was a huge distraction for me. It didn't create any physical aberrations like headaches or eyestrain, but just everything was annoyingly distracting in the screen reflection. So far now that I have the semi-gloss version I'm quite pleased, but if sunlight hits the thing it hazes out unfortunately, so I'll have to fix that soon enough.
You have to sit in front of these monitors for years on end, no? So why wouldn't you get the type of coating that will suit you best? Upthread I opted for the matte/semi-matte finish of the Qnix 27's over the glossy because the glossy just reflected everything, regardless of light condition and was a huge distraction for me. It didn't create any physical aberrations like headaches or eyestrain, but just everything was annoyingly distracting in the screen reflection. So far now that I have the semi-gloss version I'm quite pleased, but if sunlight hits the thing it hazes out unfortunately, so I'll have to fix that soon enough.
I think what really makes Apple screen look magnificent is the slick looking enclosure and the label 'Apple' printed on them!
Noooo that's what makes soccer moms and college girls buy them
My display on my PowerBook is actually dying, it's turning yellow. So my opinion of this screen doesn't matter, but my girlfriends MacBook Pro from 2009 still looks great.
Can't decide if I'd like to replace this screen or not and if I should try and find an upgrade.
der_bothaus
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PC's were the very first to do glossy for Best buy counter TN garbage to look better. Let's not rewrite history because Apple is using gloss. Apple used to downplay how cheap it was then went and altered the whole line. shrug. Typical Apple. It used to be a way to make crappier panels look better. Still is. But now you put a nice panel in there as well and then, bam! Kinda great, really. In controlled environments. I am digging the semi-gloss stuff though atm. I can still get a great tan
How many people do you see that come on forums and are angry about matte coating?
Those people are frustrated when they find out that their options are limited and if they also want a flicker free panel then they are left with very very few options. Actually none. Tell me an IPS with good pixel pitch (2560x1440 @ 27 inch is just not an option) that is flicker free, glossy (not tempered glass) and is 23-27 inch range. Aren't we out of options ? Or well, I did try a korean monitor and I am happy with it but it could have been the other way around. Other people simply do not accept those as an option.
So we are left with no options, and we all know what is better for our eyes, so what do you expect?
Give me a haze free non grainy coating and I will give up ranting for not having a viable option if I want to go with glossy.
Those people are frustrated when they find out that their options are limited and if they also want a flicker free panel then they are left with very very few options. Actually none. Tell me an IPS with good pixel pitch (2560x1440 @ 27 inch is just not an option) that is flicker free, glossy (not tempered glass) and is 23-27 inch range. Aren't we out of options ? Or well, I did try a korean monitor and I am happy with it but it could have been the other way around. Other people simply do not accept those as an option.
So we are left with no options, and we all know what is better for our eyes, so what do you expect?
Give me a haze free non grainy coating and I will give up ranting for not having a viable option if I want to go with glossy.
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