Gameworld: "RIP PSP"

Omega Supreme said:
All systems rely on their exclusive titles. How many of that list for the PSP can be bought for other systems? How many of the DS titles?
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That doesn't change the fact that they are good games. Just because you can play a similar game on the console doesn't make it a bad game for handheld. Like the poster above me said, only the sports games are even close to ports (I don't really know how else you can make a sports game), the other PSP games might have similar gameplay, but compeletly new content.

The only games I see that are 100% original on the DS are Kirby, Phoenix Wright, Trauma Center, Wario Ware and NintenDogs.
 
aznpxdd said:
That doesn't change the fact that they are good games. Just because you can play a similar game on the console doesn't make it a bad game for handheld. Like the poster above me said, only the sports games are even close to ports (I don't really know how else you can make a sports game), the other PSP games might have similar gameplay, but compeletly new content.

The only games I see that are 100% original on the DS are Kirby, Phoenix Wright, Trauma Center, Wario Ware and NintenDogs.
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Isn't a new super mario bros. coming out for the DS as well? That would go under the "orignal" category
 
If anyone cares, here's the list of upcoming games for the PSP that I got from another forum.

The Surprises

Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops: Finally, a real Metal Gear game for the PSP...AND ITS ONLINE! FREAKING ONLINE PORTABLE METAL GEAR?!?! WOOOOOO!
Grand Theft Auto: Vice City Stories: yeah, we kinda thought this was coming...but the official announcement makes it all gold. Coming this October! Awesome.
Jackass: The Game: Made by Sidhe (the same guys who did Gripshift), this title sounds pretty interesting. Sidhe is a fantastic developer, so I can't wait to see what kind of spin they put on such an odd videogame franchise such as this.
Thrillville: A sim theme park game on a portable? Sounds like a matchmade in heaven. Lucasarts is behind this one, and it sounds great...which brings me to another Lucasarts title-
Traxion: Load up your MP3s as over fourty minigames go with the music as you play it. It sounds really crazy...but if it's anything like Vib Ribbon (so I'm told), we're all in for an amazing game.
Mercury Meltdown: The first game had tons of potential, and while I liked it, I really thought it was a missed opportunity. But this sequel looks to change all that.
WTF: Never thought I'd see this game coming to the states. Ever.
Coded Arms Contangion: Hey, I actually liked the first one! I might be the only one looking forward to this, but hey, it was a surprise to see a sequel in the first place.
Silent Hill Origins: Silent Hill. PSP. Hells Yeah.
Earthworm Jim: I loved the series, and now hearing it return is just too good to be true.
300: March to Glory: Developed exclusively for the PSP eh? It sounds promising, even at ths 15% level.

The EXCLUSIVES!

SOCOM 2: Looks much better than the first, which was a good start to what could be a great franchise on the PSP.
Killzone: Liberation: This looks like tons of fun. I love the aspect of it, and it could be the big blockbuster for the PSP this holiday.
Gradius Collection: There is a simple formula everyone should pay attention to. Old-school gaming + PSP= gravy. Delicious, delicious gravy.
Gangs of London: Having never played the Getaway series, I look forward to this very much.
Loco Roco: I can't remember the last game I played that put a big smile on my face. Wow.
Sonic Rivals: Finally, a Sonic game on the PSP. I expect greatness.
Bounty Hounds: Namco delivers an intriguing game that has been in development since E305. Hmmm...
Tekken: Dark Resurrection: Namco and Capcom love our little PSP, no?
Monster Hunter Freedom: Only a few weeks to wait for this one...sounds good to me!
Ace Combat X: Skies of Deception: I am running out of great things to say about Namco. They are just way too awesome.
Every Extend Extra: From the creator of Lumines...well, that's all that needs to be said, no?
Capcom Collections Reloaded: Huminah huminah huminah.
Metal Slug Anthology: Wait, you say. This isn't exclusive! Ah, but that's where you're mistaken...because no MS game has ever had all six games in one compilation. Bout' freaking time!
Ultimate Ghosts n Goblins: Ahhhhhhhh yeah. I'm lovin these 2 1/2D remakes.
Dead Head Fred: Sounds like an awesome concept for a platformer. I'd definitely keep my eye on this one.
Rush: While the game itself looks rough, the concept of the greatness of the previous Rush games rolled into one is awesome. Lets hope it gets pulled off.
Power Stone Collection: And now a moment of silence for our beloved Dreamcast. We will miss thee. Your soul still lives on...in the PSP of all things.
Mortal Combat: Deception Unchained: A new MK game for PSP...another game with great potential, if pulled off properly.
Capcom Puzzle World: Never played any of these, but I'm always up for a new puzzle experience on my PSP.
Ratchet and Clank: Size Matters: Lots of people are lookin forward to this one...I cant wait.

And there's even MORE!

50 Cent: Bulletproof G Unit Edition
Ape Escape Academy 2
Arthur and the Minimoys
ATV Offroad Fury Pro
Battlezone
Blade Dancer: Lineage of Light
Bomberman
Brooktown High: Senior Year
Charlie Brown's All-Stars
Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
Dave Mirra BMX Challenge
Death Jr. -- Root of Evil
Def Jam Fight for NY: The Takeover
Disney/Pixar's Cars
Dungeon Explorer
Dungeon Siege: Throne of Agony
Dungeons & Dragons: Tactics
Dynasty Warriors: Vol. 2
Earache Extreme Metal Racing
EyeToy: Play Portable
Family Guy
Field Commander
FIFA Soccer 06 G
Ghost Rider
Gitaroo Man Lives!
Guilty Gear Judgment
Hard Rock Casino
Hellboy
Hot PXL
Hot Shots Golf for GPS
Juiced: Eliminator
Justice League Heroes
LEGO Star Wars II: The Original Trilogy
Lemmings
Lumines II
Madden NFL 07
Marvel Universe Trading Card Game
Marvel: Ultimate Alliance
Miami Vice
Micro Machines V4
NASCAR 07
NBA '07
NBA Ballers: Rebound
NBA Live 06
NCAA Football 07
Online Chess Kingdoms
Open Season
Pac-Man World Rally
Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest
Race Driver 2006
Rengoku 2
Sam Suede: Undercover Exposure
Snoopy vs. the Red Baron
Spore
Star Trek: Tactical Assault
Steel Horizon
Super Monkey Ball Adventure
Superman Returns: The Videogame
TalkMan
Test Drive Unlimited
The Fast and the Furious
The Legend of Heroes II: Prophecy of the Moonlight Witch
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 06
Tomb Raider: Legend
Valkyrie Profile: Lenneth
Winning Eleven: Pro Evolution Soccer 2007
Winx Club: Join the Club
World Championship Poker: Featuring Howard Lederer "All In"
World Pool Championship 2007
World Series of Poker: Tournament of Champions
World Tour Soccer 2
Worldwide Soccer Manager 2007
WWE SmackDown vs. RAW 2007
Xiaolin Showdown
Yu-Gi-Oh! GX

Also don't forget all the classic PS1 games that PSP owners will be able download starting fall. As you all can see, saying that the PSP is dead is just plain ignorant. :cool:
 
Psychotext said:
CLEAR * bzzzt *

Nope, it's dead. :D

Oh, and if there's a reason DS players are full of rage, it's not animal crossing or nintendogs - It's Trauma Center. I'm a fairly calm person and I must admit that on the later levels I nearly ended up embedding my DS in a wall more than once. ;)
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So true. I took that game with me when my wife and I traveled out to Cali to meet her grandmother for the first time. There were a few moments where it took everything I had to close the DS and go outside before I unleashed a torrent of foul language that would have completely soured her opinion of me :)
 
Well, A price drop for the PSP would be a smart move. Just enough to for people to say, "For (20-50) dollars more than a DS Lite, i could get a PSP." Offering PS1 library sounds like a good move, but it will require a good implementation. Although if the PS1 library isn't enough to start an influx of sales... I would declare it dead barring an exciting game on the horizon.

That being said, I'm not going to argue about game quality - A good game is a good game is a good game, no matter if its rehashed, ported, originally created from scratch, etc. I will say that the DS gaming experience is one that is unique to the system itself (Thumbs up for Trama Center, Osu! Tatake! Ouendan!, Lost Magic, and Big Brain Academy) with a solid foundation of standard games (Castlevania DoS, NSMB, etc.)
 
With Tekken Dark Resurrection out now with zero load times, amazing gameplay/graphicss/ound/replay value and of course playable any time anywhere, being the first true handheld 3d fighter i think a hell of a lot more units will shift here in europe and the US. What a beautiful Game.:) Im extremely happy with the psp now, off to buy another today for 2 player tekken.
 
aznpxdd said:
Also don't forget all the classic PS1 games that PSP owners will be able download starting fall. As you all can see, saying that the PSP is dead is just plain ignorant. :cool:
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The idea of a retro console is getting more and more popular. I just wonde how Sony is going to make it work in the PSP. Would you download the games to your memory stick? Does this mean I can play Tekken 2, Crash, and the orginal Tomb Raider in the palm of my hand.
 
PSP is a bit pricey in regards to the entry level costs. HOWEVER, it just flat out OWNS in regards to sports, fps and now fighting with the new Tekken. I personally hope it sticks around b/c I value it highly for half hour sessions on my "throne"

:p
 
Actually nintendogs is remarkably similar to the PC games "Dawgz". It's not the same but the idea HAS been done before so it's not exactly original except for being usable on a handheld.
 
All my reasons for NOT owning a PSP is moot. They dont matter when I see shit like this...
Rockstar Games today released the official cover shot of Rockstar Leeds' upcoming Grand Theft Auto: Vice City Stories (PSP). The company also confirmed that the game will be shipping October 17, 2006 in North America and October 20, 2006 in Europe. and will retail for $49.99. Though the box shot indicates that the ESRB rating is still pending, the game will in all likelihood be rated "M for Mature."
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They are STILL selling games at $50? for the PSP?
Sony is full off shit. $129 PS2's prove that. After analyst recomendation to lower the PS2 to $99, they refuse, just to milk the market even more. WE WANT YOUR MONEY!

RIP OFF.

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If it takes the same amount of time to develop as a PS2/Xbox game, then the price is justified. However, I seriously doubt anyone with a brain would pick that game up for $50. The only time I've bought games for PSP is when they drop the price or have a deal ranging from $30 - $35.

BTW, I think its kinda ironic that DS owners are calling others suckers, didn't a bunch of people just sold their old DS and buy the DS Lite because it looks better?
 
LeviathanZERO said:
Sony is full off shit. $129 PS2's prove that. After analyst recomendation to lower the PS2 to $99, they refuse, just to milk the market even more. WE WANT YOUR MONEY!

RIP OFF.
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Well what the hell do you want?

They just lowered it from $149.99 a few months ago. $129.99 is a damn reasonable price for a console with more games than you could ever play, and if it bothers you that much, you can pick one up used for $99. You may as well say that every company is full of shit, because they all charge whatever the market will bear, not just Sony.

I swear, if Sony lowered it to $99, you'd be complaining that it's not $79.99.
 
if its a new game that was specifically designed for the psp... with the same amount of effort put into it as a game designed for the gc/ps2/etc... then i dont see why they shouldnt charge the same amount...

newho... is it really sony's decision alone to set the price? i mean... why would they set tekken: dark resurrection at 40 and valk profile at 40? why not set them all at 50? its my guess... and just a guess... that the developer probably has considerable influence in setting the release price... i think ff crisis core is also set to release at 50...
 
Lord Nassirbannipal said:
Well what the hell do you want?

They just lowered it from $149.99 a few months ago. $129.99 is a damn reasonable price for a console with more games than you could ever play, and if it bothers you that much, you can pick one up used for $99. You may as well say that every company is full of shit, because they all charge whatever the market will bear, not just Sony.

I swear, if Sony lowered it to $99, you'd be complaining that it's not $79.99.
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Its not about money, its about whats good for the market. Sony deliberately ignores finacial analysts recomendations, mostly because they failed to meet sales targets, so the price drops dont happen. 5 months ago, the $149 price was to go to $99, but Sony didnt make the forecasts so, $129 it goes. Sales go up, of course, but at the expense of not growing the market.

Sony's arogance keeps the prices high when they should be low. This is not good for the growth of the market. If you dont agree, go buy your $600 PS3. Apparently, "thinking with your wallet" doesnt happen in USA.
 
I love how there hasnt been a single response to refute aznpxdd's gamerankings post or upcoming games list. What happened to all the "psp games are terrible ports" people?
 
Spaceman_Spiff said:
I love how there hasnt been a single response to refute aznpxdd's gamerankings post or upcoming games list. What happened to all the "psp games are terrible ports" people?
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Lets list the number of the games sold in the "above 80%" catagory for both handhelds. I stopped caring what magazines gave what ratings for games a while ago. DS has as many 2+ million titles sold as the PS2, thats saying ALOT.
 
Isaacav2 said:
Lets list the number of the games sold in the "above 80%" catagory for both handhelds. I stopped caring what magazines gave what ratings for games a while ago. DS has as many 2+ million titles sold as the PS2, thats saying ALOT.
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Why does it matter how much games each system has sold? A good game is a good game, if you enjoy it then why does the amount sold matter? That's like saying some of the overlooked AAA games on Gamecube aren't fun because no one bought them, which obviously isn't the truth and doesn't make sense. Knowing a game is popular and is selling well DOES NOT make the game any better.
 
Isaacav2 said:
Lets list the number of the games sold in the "above 80%" catagory for both handhelds. I stopped caring what magazines gave what ratings for games a while ago. DS has as many 2+ million titles sold as the PS2, thats saying ALOT.
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By your logic madden is the greatest series of all time by about 10 fold.
 
Welp, that about settles it, now we can all agree that PSP is alive and kicking even though UMD movies are dead.
 
aznpxdd said:
Welp, that about settles it, now we can all agree that PSP is alive and kicking even though UMD movies are dead.
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I agree that UMD movies are dead . . . but the PSP doesn't have long to live IMO. I believe that Sony has one more chance to get this one back with a pulse. Hey Sony, why not lower the price? That alone would sell some PSPs.
 
LeviathanZERO said:
Its not about money, its about whats good for the market. Sony deliberately ignores finacial analysts recomendations, mostly because they failed to meet sales targets, so the price drops dont happen. 5 months ago, the $149 price was to go to $99, but Sony didnt make the forecasts so, $129 it goes. Sales go up, of course, but at the expense of not growing the market.

Sony's arogance keeps the prices high when they should be low. This is not good for the growth of the market. If you dont agree, go buy your $600 PS3. Apparently, "thinking with your wallet" doesnt happen in USA.
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The fastest selling console in history failed to meet sales targets, despite the fact that it's still outselling everything else out there?

Even if that's true, I'm going to have to repeat the $129.99 is more than a fair price for arguably the best console in history. If you think Sony is charging too much, then don't buy it. It's not like they put a gun to your head.
 
The homebrew guys decrypted firmware 2.71 which had some interesting DRM in it stuff that points to Memorystick pro delivery method of games.

Been farting around with homebrew and games running of the stick make the battery last forever.

I own GTA, SOCOM, Legends, Lumines, Talkman (I live in Asia quite handy imo), Burnout, Whipeout pure.

I love the system. I think the PSP is great. Most of my games were under 20 dollars.
 
LeviathanZERO said:
Its not about money, its about whats good for the market. Sony deliberately ignores finacial analysts recomendations, mostly because they failed to meet sales targets, so the price drops dont happen. 5 months ago, the $149 price was to go to $99, but Sony didnt make the forecasts so, $129 it goes. Sales go up, of course, but at the expense of not growing the market.

Sony's arogance keeps the prices high when they should be low. This is not good for the growth of the market. If you dont agree, go buy your $600 PS3. Apparently, "thinking with your wallet" doesnt happen in USA.
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analysts use data to make recommendations...they predict what will happen and provide you with their forecast... not always reliable... but newho... its not about sony's arrogance and it IS about the money, to them at least... its all about maximizing profits... why should sony bring the price down to 99 if they can set the price at 129 and still be the top selling console?

if you were a salesman, and u were selling your products... which can sell very well at 20, would you sell at 15?

btw, hows it bad for the market? as long as the price is dropping, ppl are happy...
 
Lord Nassirbannipal said:
The fastest selling console in history failed to meet sales targets, despite the fact that it's still outselling everything else out there?
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I maybe have misunderstood, but are you trying to say that the PSP is outselling everything else?
 
l177l3d said:
analysts use data to make recommendations...they predict what will happen and provide you with their forecast... not always reliable... but newho... its not about sony's arrogance and it IS about the money, to them at least... its all about maximizing profits... why should sony bring the price down to 99 if they can set the price at 129 and still be the top selling console?

if you were a salesman, and u were selling your products... which can sell very well at 20, would you sell at 15?

btw, hows it bad for the market? as long as the price is dropping, ppl are happy...
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well, at least you understood my point.
its the same thing thats happening to the PSP right now. analysts recomended a price drop long ago due to slow sales, and Sony comes up with the halfassed core pack, which isnt a real price drop. (regardless of how crappy the extras are.) so, here we are again, analysts recomending another price drop to battle DS lite sales, and of course Sony is doing nothing.

I've noticed they like tightening the noose around the markets they own. its domination, but its not healthy for company-consumer relations. that leads to them releasing a $600 product saying everyone and their mom is going to get it, disregarding the fact that most of the consumers (and the industry itself...) are saying its too damn expensive.
 
LeviathanZERO said:
well, at least you understood my point.
its the same thing thats happening to the PSP right now. analysts recomended a price drop long ago due to slow sales, and Sony comes up with the halfassed core pack, which isnt a real price drop. (regardless of how crappy the extras are.) so, here we are again, analysts recomending another price drop to battle DS lite sales, and of course Sony is doing nothing.

I've noticed they like tightening the noose around the markets they own. its domination, but its not healthy for company-consumer relations. that leads to them releasing a $600 product saying everyone and their mom is going to get it, disregarding the fact that most of the consumers (and the industry itself...) are saying its too damn expensive.
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well, the psp and the ps2 can hardly be compared... ps2 being the leading console... and the psp being sony's first attempt at a hand held... so while i agree that a price drop would help the psp sales tremendously and that by not dropping the price, sony is losing a considerable % in the portable market base... but when it comes to the ps2... sony is probably right to keep the price as high as possible while still maintaining a steady flow in sales... since the ps2 is really their only way to recoup the losses they are taking from the R&D that went into the ps3... and also the losses they will sustain after they start selling the ps3...

the only real noose they are tightening are the ones around their own necks right? competition plays to our hands... giving us the choice of ps3/xbox360/wii... so if their strategy is fatally flawed... then it wont be long before they change their ways... but realistically speaking... microsoft and sony are both taking an estimated 25% loss on each console they are producing... so... sony can't really lower the price of the product much more than its already lowered... possibly the real issue at hand is the way they designed the ps3... with components that just cost too much to manufacture...
 
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