Future of LCDs

[h41cyon]

Hey guys, im looking to buy a 17 or 19 inch LCD at the end of summer and I was wondering what types of specs could I expect to see by then. I am interested in gaming so response time would have to be as low as she can get.

So if any of you know of up and coming LCD models from any company please share with the rest of us.

thanks!

 

[emorphien]

I don't know whats coming out but expect something with 600:1 or better contrast ratios these days. The response times are dipping lower so you should be able to find a 16ms or maybe even better (by then) panel without blowing the bank.

 

[Bennyb]

I'm also interested in an LCD nearing the summer. Is there anything i could get at 17"-19" that would be able to play games/dvds below 400?

I'm mostly looking into this for LANs.

 

[Harkamus]

Hey guys, im looking to buy a 17 or 19 inch LCD at the end of summer and I was wondering what types of specs could I expect to see by then. I am interested in gaming so response time would have to be as low as she can get.

So if any of you know of up and coming LCD models from any company please share with the rest of us.

thanks!

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=758897

 

[agentzero9]

Response time is not the end-all number.


There are some 12ms out that ghost MORE than other 16ms. You need to look at LCD monitors on a case by case basis, and not just get a monitor because the specs look good.


It's like when you buy a house, you look at more than just the sq feet.

 

[Neurofreeze]

The problem is manufacturers measure response time much of the time from 100% black to 100% white, this is generally the easiest and fastest in pixel response. Doing a more real-world response, ie. the greys and midtones, is always slower.

So when an AU Optronics 12ms (or an LG Phillips) panel comes around with a 12ms panel, take it with a grain of salt. Those two generally aren't too fantastic with the greys and midtones. Most "gaming monitors" use AU Optronics. A few use Hydis panels, which aren't as high-profile as those other two (probably because they're more expensive), but are significantly better with grey/midtone response.

There's some hard numbers to go with it with xbitlabs' (somewhat dated) reviews:

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/other/display/samsung_3.html <- Samsung 172X 12ms 17" panels (although this one's using an MVA instead of a TN+Film panel

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/other/display/response-5_6.html <- LG Flatron L1710B, 16ms 17", I'd wager the LG Phillips panel.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/other/display/response-6_2.html <- The Acer AL1721, 17", 16ms, using a Hydis panel (which are also used in the Hercules LCDs).

As you can see in the three graphs, the 16ms panel Hydis is far superior in overall response time than a lower-rated 12ms panel or an equally rated LG Philips.

One advantage of the new (v2 and the new-new 12ms stuff) Optronics panels over LG Phillips or even Hydis is that they do have better color reproduction and contrast.

Also, take contrast ratings with a grain of salt as well. Many manufacturers measure contrast with 100% brightness being one end and 0% brightness being the other. But, that's obviously useless in real useage since you're not going to dynamically change the brightness of your monitor constantly just to view one image. What happens at 100% brightness is lighter colors tend to wash and at 0% brightness, of course, darks tend to run. Samsung's panels (whether they use MVA or the AU Optronics TN+Film panels) tend to be very, very good with contrast and color reproduction.