Future High-end AGP Cards?

No offense, but the mobo you have is basically a Socket-A board with a Socket-939 glued on. On a very poor chipset, also.

I know you are trying to save money, but you are costing yourself a lot in the long run by getting stuck in that between-generation void. If you're always trying to cram new stuff into old hardware, you end up paying a cost for that "convenience". Both in money, and performance.

Really there is no reason _not_ go move on to PCI Express at this point, unless of course you are just intentionally being stubborn.

After all, you basically said in your original post that you don't want to hear the best advice anyone could give you, which is to move on. Suck it up, deal with what you've got for now, until you can do a proper upgrade.
 
OP you have to get a new board becuase you cant stick a geforce 12 in an agp slot.
 
ok, two things now....

1. its really just a matter of dollars and cents. if i go pci-e.... 80-100 for the mobo plus 250 for the 8800gt right? versus say, 200ish for the 3850 etc

2. ok, it is christmas.... i might be able to pull off the upgrade....

if you guys could link me to a solid mobo (i dont OC) that supports these components (and has good integrated audio):

amd athlon64 x2 4400+ (939 - toledo)
2 gigs of corsair ddr 3200
3 seagate ide drives
1 dvd ide drive
antec 500w psu (one of the good ones)

and then link me to the best 8800gt deal....

maybe, MAYBE i could pool all my christmas money together and do this....

so yeah, if you could... please figure that out.... i know u guys are good at this hehe

anyways, thanks a lot and i hope to hear back!
 
horrorshow said:
ok, two things now....

1. its really just a matter of dollars and cents. if i go pci-e.... 80-100 for the mobo plus 250 for the 8800gt right? versus say, 200ish for the 3850 etc

2. ok, it is christmas.... i might be able to pull off the upgrade....

if you guys could link me to a solid mobo (i dont OC) that supports these components (and has good integrated audio):

amd athlon64 x2 4400+ (939 - toledo)
2 gigs of corsair ddr 3200
3 seagate ide drives
1 dvd ide drive
antec 500w psu (one of the good ones)

and then link me to the best 8800gt deal....

maybe, MAYBE i could pool all my christmas money together and do this....

so yeah, if you could... please figure that out.... i know u guys are good at this hehe

anyways, thanks a lot and i hope to hear back!
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Dfi lanparty Ultra-D

find one used, best 939 mobo.
 
if you've got the $$$ to upgrade your AGP card to some ridiculously priced AGP card, you have the cash to upgrade to an inexpensive PCI-E based platform. Cheap Asus boards can be had in $100 range, CPU <$70 (e2140 to start), memory 2GB <$100 (OCZ PC6400 and some mail in rebates have you spending maybe $30) and video card ~$100 (x1900 or 8600).

Considering that if a 3800 series AGP comes out, it'll need some sort of bridge chip which adds to the manufacturing cost. It'll command some price like $200+ compared to it's PCI-E sibling which is supposed to sell <$200 due to that difference, then possibly a bit more due to it being a non mainstream part in low volume and supply.

How can you be even remotely an enthusiast and not go with the approx $350 upgrade package versus the 1 part upgrade which potentially is 1/2 to 3/4 that cost? From an economic standpoint, it's hard to justify. On top of the problem of it coming full circle the next round of gaming forced upgrades come...
 
I'm not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but I always sell the stuff I'm upgrading from to offset the cost of the new gear. It's like getting a new rig for half price.
 
horrorshow said:
1. its really just a matter of dollars and cents. if i go pci-e.... 80-100 for the mobo plus 250 for the 8800gt right? versus say, 200ish for the 3850 etc
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Actually, it would be difficult finding a 939 mobo for $80-$100 nowadays. Very few are being built new. $30-$40 is much more realistic. Either that or you could get a higher-level board off of eBay, but I don't think it would be worth it for an incremental upgrade. The best of the lot on NewEgg is a Micro-ATX (hope you don't have too many PCI cards!) nForce 6150-based Foxconn board, the 6150BK8MC-KRSHN2. And you could always get a PCI-E 3850; for its price, nothing can beat it, and you can find it for around $160 occasionally.

And for the people saying "go to the 21st century": a 939-based setup is still very respectable. Faster memory wouldn't really help an Athlon 64 X2 (it's not memory starved), and a 4400+ still a plenty fast processor and won't starve most video cards, even if it's not a Core 2. It's not like he's coming from an Athlon XP or anything.
 
it'll be hard finding one, if they wind up making it for the 38xx and 88xx series.
 
Hey guys is there going to be a pci high end card coming out? my X1550 is getting slow. I hope they make an hd3850 or 8800gt in pci slot. Pretty please...
 
I would suggest you ignore the asses like the one you quoted, all they'll do is get you banned. Since every fricken AGP thread ends up going to crap like this one, I would suggest you do yourself a favor and start PM'ing people instead. Take a look at the thread entitled AGP Club and contact the people who have posted there through private messaging. This way you don't have to subject yourself to all the bull crap. Absolutely pitiful isn't it. All you did was ask if there were any new AGP cards coming and look how it ends up. Good luck.

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1168924
 
I don't blame him. All the guy asked for was if there were any new AGP parts coming. He didn't need to be crucified for sticking with AGP. You want him to buy a PCI-E Rig, givem the money. Also what part of this didn't you understand from his orignal post ......

horrorshow said:
(please, no 'move on and upgrade to pci-x' posts)

thanks
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He even said please .....

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honestjohn said:
I don't blame him. All the guy asked for was if there were any new AGP parts coming. He didn't need to be crucified for sticking with AGP. You want him to buy a PCI-E Rig, givem the money. Also what part of this didn't you understand from his orignal post ......



He even said please .....

-10 Rep
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Sorry but to me, when someone comes in and asks for advice, and then says "no good advice please, I only want you to tell me what I want to hear.", I have a hard time taking them seriously. Now obviously that is a paraphrase, but really these threads are so common now its getting stupid. Everyone always gets defensive about their little AGP slot, instead of taking the advice given, and going back to the drawing board.

Then replying with posts like that where he has just made himself into a huge internet cliche where he starts bragging about all his real life accomplishments and insulting anyone with a more powerful PC setup... that's just always how these things end up.

For years now, anytime someone comes in and asks for advice that they dont want to hear, the thread ends up with them going on the defensive and freaking out.
 
honestjohn said:
I would suggest you ignore the asses like the one you quoted, all they'll do is get you banned. Since every fricken AGP thread ends up going to crap like this one, I would suggest you do yourself a favor and start PM'ing people instead. Take a look at the thread entitled AGP Club and contact the people who have posted there through private messaging. This way you don't have to subject yourself to all the bull crap. Absolutely pitiful isn't it. All you did was ask if there were any new AGP cards coming and look how it ends up. Good luck.

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1168924
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thank you.
 
honestjohn said:
I would suggest you ignore the asses like the one you quoted, all they'll do is get you banned. Since every fricken AGP thread ends up going to crap like this one, I would suggest you do yourself a favor and start PM'ing people instead. Take a look at the thread entitled AGP Club and contact the people who have posted there through private messaging. This way you don't have to subject yourself to all the bull crap. Absolutely pitiful isn't it. All you did was ask if there were any new AGP cards coming and look how it ends up. Good luck.

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1168924
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Wow... people in these threads are harsh. This is exactly what I was thinking.
 
There isn't really anything agp that is currently available that is worth upgrading to over the x1950 that you have. I would wait and see what comes along. There is bound to be something that becomes available
 
horrorshow said:
listen here you S.O.B. , I'm 24 years old and have already made over a quarter of a million dollars in my time here on this planet. so F-off!
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Quarter of a million dollars and you still cant afford a pci-e slot

horrorshow said:
god, I ask for some advice and half you guys are stuck up a-holes.
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Not really, l live off $40 a month and i live with my mom[/quote]


You come to a forum full of computer enthusiasts and you ask what can i do with my old hardware if i dont want to upgrade it....

what do you expect...
 
Ugh, i really see no reason why you wouldn't at least update your mobo if you can get a decent 939 mobo for $40 bucks used. Just gotta make sure it's from a good source. The better chipset and video card savings should offset that cost easily.
 
TrueKaio said:
Ugh, i really see no reason why you wouldn't at least update your mobo if you can get a decent 939 mobo for $40 bucks used. Just gotta make sure it's from a good source. The better chipset and video card savings should offset that cost easily.
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He cant, he has to spend his money on his beautiful girlfreind.
 
ring.of.steel said:
He cant, he has to spend his money on his beautiful girlfreind.
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Yeah, congrats. You and your little group here forced the guy into saying things he shouldn't have. So now you can move on from bashing his AGP system to bashing him personally. Merry Christmas, hope Santa shoves something special down your chimney. Enjoy your thread.
 
honestjohn said:
Yeah, congrats. You and your little group here forced the guy into saying things he shouldn't have. So now you can move on from bashing his AGP system to bashing him personally. Merry Christmas, hope Santa shoves something special down your chimney. Enjoy your thread.
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That won't happen.

Santa's not real.

Hate to say that...
 
I got my nipper a 7600GTS (AGP) to upgrade his Abit NF7-S v2 board from his old FX5500.
He is happy......old kit, yep, but for what he wants it has improved things for him, and since it was 'free' for him he is even happier..:cool:

Some people can be happy with upgrading a bit of old kit.....:D
 
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