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she tried so hard to defend herself... but stealing WiFi is stealing WiFi

I name my network random things and leave it open on a separate VLAN so I can play with dumb college kids that like to get on and steal internet ^_^
 
I always disable SSID broadcasting and use WPA or WEP when I set up wireless for someone. And damn it someone needs to hire Leo, Patrick Norton, Kevin Rose, and give them their own TV show again.
 
What a riot.

I wish I had a mac filter on my router that would direct everyone NOT on the approved list to download the Internet Security 2009 virus. I'd leave that unprotected and send the virus to every leech in my apartment complex. No more internets for them!

Sadly, I will just have to rely my WPA2 encryption. :p
 
Using wireless internet thats unsecured is classified as wire fraud? Since when? And who the hell has been arrested for using someone elses internet? :rolleyes:
 
FuNiOnZ said:
Using wireless internet thats unsecured is classified as wire fraud? Since when? And who the hell has been arrested for using someone elses internet? :rolleyes:
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Oh good lord! It is the same as having a cable box and splicing it off your neighbors. It has NEVER been legal.
 
I like how she started off all defensive then got very quiet all of a sudden when he started going into how her passwords could be floating out there for all to see.
This is almost as funny as they woman i talked to yesterday who said she didn't want to switch from AOL dial-up to a local cable internet because she wants the "whole nationwide internet" ...whatever that is.
 
At least she isn't 20 miles away in her car trying to connect to her wireless router at home. I have had people calling me trying to do that on more than a few occasions. Some people seem to have no idea that there are differences between local area wireless protocols like 802.11G and wide area 3G type protocols.
 
I loved the analogy of if you're hungry is it ok to steal food? Hell yes I'm going to steal food. Starve and do the right thing, or steal food? Fuck yes, I'm going to wanna live and steal food.

I loved how the guy went on and on about how someone is going to steal her banking and email information. Honestly, who'd want to take her information? If she's stupid enough to buy a wifi extender, then she obviously doesn't have money.

About 99.999999 times out of 10, nobody has open wifi to steal your personal info. Chances are, they are too lazy to enter in a password. Personally, so am I, but I block by mac address. Had my neighbor who claimed who could get on my router, and I had him try and prove it. He was wrong.
 
Your link is screwed up BTW. It's got one to many http in it.
 
I got 30 seconds into the video and knew exactly where it was going. It's like something straight out of notalwaysright.
 
Ashbringer said:
I loved how the guy went on and on about how someone is going to steal her banking and email information. Honestly, who'd want to take her information? If she's stupid enough to buy a wifi extender, then she obviously doesn't have money.
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Since when does intelligence absolutely reflect upon ones finances?

I mean she did BUY a wifi extender, obviously she has some money. Or at least did, that much we can determine absolutely.
 
Ashbringer said:
I loved the analogy of if you're hungry is it ok to steal food? Hell yes I'm going to steal food. Starve and do the right thing, or steal food? Fuck yes, I'm going to wanna live and steal food.

I loved how the guy went on and on about how someone is going to steal her banking and email information. Honestly, who'd want to take her information? If she's stupid enough to buy a wifi extender, then she obviously doesn't have money.

About 99.999999 times out of 10, nobody has open wifi to steal your personal info. Chances are, they are too lazy to enter in a password. Personally, so am I, but I block by mac address. Had my neighbor who claimed who could get on my router, and I had him try and prove it. He was wrong.
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But it still is possible. http://www.bettnet.com/blog/index.php/weblog/travel_tip_beware_of_airport_wi_fi_honeypots/

Would you expect the average user to recognize that the adhoc network isn't right? Even that may not be a giveaway since it's possible to setup a small hotspot with just a laptop and to similar. He wasn't saying the sky was falling but just listing reasons why she may not want to steal since she obviously had no problem with it.

And btw, Mac address filtering does not do much. All anyone really needs is nmap and a sample of packets to capture your mac address and they are in. You slowed them down a couple of minutes, that's all.
 
When I worked at Best Buy, this was a DAILY occurrence. They just didn't get it.
 
Ashbringer said:
I loved the analogy of if you're hungry is it ok to steal food? Hell yes I'm going to steal food. Starve and do the right thing, or steal food? Fuck yes, I'm going to wanna live and steal food.

I loved how the guy went on and on about how someone is going to steal her banking and email information. Honestly, who'd want to take her information? If she's stupid enough to buy a wifi extender, then she obviously doesn't have money.

About 99.999999 times out of 10, nobody has open wifi to steal your personal info. Chances are, they are too lazy to enter in a password. Personally, so am I, but I block by mac address. Had my neighbor who claimed who could get on my router, and I had him try and prove it. He was wrong.
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He said is it okay to steal food if the food is too expensive. You got the analogy wrong.
 
Ryokurin said:
And btw, Mac address filtering does not do much. All anyone really needs is nmap and a sample of packets to capture your mac address and they are in. You slowed them down a couple of minutes, that's all.
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My mac address filtering is only meant to keep my neighbors from getting a free ride, and consuming my bandwidth. Someone could go through the trouble to get on my network, but from what I understand encryption isn't going to slow them down by much either.

My mac address filtering slowed them down by a couple of minutes, but the encryption will only buy me another 2 minutes.
 
I like to think that mac address filtering and not broadcasting your SSID is a pretty good way to secure your network.
 
Disagree all you want, but I will use any unsecured access point I find. I do not war-drive, do not try access anything on their LAN, it is simply for internet access. I take the position that if someone does not take any steps to prevent others from using their access point, they are ok with others using it.

I state this because their airwaves are flowing to me. If they were playing music instead, I am not stealing their music. If I sing along to the music and they hear me singing, I am still not stealing their music. I do not consider it remotely like stealing cable tv service by using a splitter because both the person with the unsecured wifi and I, BOTH are paying for broadband. The ISP is not losing any money because there is no way I can pay for each access point everywhere, nor should I need to as I am already paying for an account providing internet access... it is a mere technicality where I am when I use the internet.

Further, I keep an open access point that I don't mind others using. Surely someone will come along and suggest this makes me liable for whatever they do on the internet. OK, but there is such a thing as civil disobedience. I do not agree with laws which penalize the owner of an internet account because of the actions of others, and I do not agree that it is morally wrong to use any open wifi access point.
 
I'm on the fence about whether or not I think it should be illegal to use someone else's open broadcast wifi.

The best analogy I can think of is whether or not it is illegal to observe what is going on in a neighbor's house when they have their front door wide open. Is it illegal to look across the street into your neighbor's open door? No, it isn't. They should have shut the door. Is it illegal to open the door to see what is going on without their permission? Yes, it is.

Want people out? Shut the damn door.
 
tubular said:
Since when does intelligence absolutely reflect upon ones finances?
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since.... *forever*? smarter people generally make more than dumber people... been like that forever, and no intelligent person would ever really doubt that....

for anyone that might disagree, google the word outlier
 
Ashbringer said:
My mac address filtering is only meant to keep my neighbors from getting a free ride, and consuming my bandwidth. Someone could go through the trouble to get on my network, but from what I understand encryption isn't going to slow them down by much either.

My mac address filtering slowed them down by a couple of minutes, but the encryption will only buy me another 2 minutes.
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Perhaps not, but, the alarming trend lately of attempting to hold people responsible for whatever happens on their network whether the network owner authorized the usage or not may require you to rethink that.
It would prolly for the best if you could say you used reasonable care in preventing unauthorized use of our network. I use MAC filtering, WEP, time filtering (no access during the time everyone is at work school or after 10PM when every one around here is in bed), and review logs weekly to see if there has been unauthorized access. If it were not for the number of laptop users in this house I would not use wireless at all.
 
Ashbringer said:
My mac address filtering is only meant to keep my neighbors from getting a free ride, and consuming my bandwidth. Someone could go through the trouble to get on my network, but from what I understand encryption isn't going to slow them down by much either.

My mac address filtering slowed them down by a couple of minutes, but the encryption will only buy me another 2 minutes.
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Lol it will take you way longer than 2 minutes to break even a semi-decent WPA2 password.
 
The six dumbest ways to secure a wireless LAN.
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/?p=43

Some of you probably already know most of this but I feel I should post this given the comments here. This is a must read for everyone who uses wireless.
 
brucedeluxe169 said:
since.... *forever*? smarter people generally make more than dumber people... been like that forever, and no intelligent person would ever really doubt that....

for anyone that might disagree, google the word outlier
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Nope, that is completely backwards. The most intelligent people tend to be researchers making very little money. Trash collectors on the other hand make more than many college professors. What I suspect you have done is assumed from an early age that having more money automatically makes someone smart as if the goal is to amass as much money as possible. Less intelligent people tend to make that the goal, more intelligent people are goal oriented, that it is the result, not the pay, that they work towards.

The only clear trend is that higher education allows one to earn more money, but there are plenty of people dumb as rocks that make it through college... the majority actually. So you might say a "smart" person seeks knowledge and application of that knowledge, but that a smart person does it for this reason, not pursuit of money.
 
My mother got herself a new HP laptop about 6 months back. She's has it for a couple of days and she gives me a call.

her: "Hey son, my laptop isn't working, It wont turn on."
me: "what happened when you last used it?"
her: "the screen just went black"
me: "did you plug it in?"
her: "no, its got wireless!"
me: "mom, your cell phone is wireless, but you still plug it in every night right?"
her: "oh shoot, do laptops come with a cord?"
me: "yes mom, it should still be in the box"


some people, just don't know ;)
 
J.C. said:
Nope, that is completely backwards. The most intelligent people tend to be researchers making very little money. Trash collectors on the other hand make more than many college professors. What I suspect you have done is assumed from an early age that having more money automatically makes someone smart as if the goal is to amass as much money as possible. Less intelligent people tend to make that the goal, more intelligent people are goal oriented, that it is the result, not the pay, that they work towards.

The only clear trend is that higher education allows one to earn more money, but there are plenty of people dumb as rocks that make it through college... the majority actually. So you might say a "smart" person seeks knowledge and application of that knowledge, but that a smart person does it for this reason, not pursuit of money.
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lol, i do hope there arent too many other children on this site that actually believe stuff like this
 
Good thing most of this tech stuff isn't lethal, like Lions or fast moving water.... or maybe it's not a good thing?

The Stupid... it Burns, it Burns!!! :eek::p
 
Ashbringer said:
I loved how the guy went on and on about how someone is going to steal her banking and email information. Honestly, who'd want to take her information? If she's stupid enough to buy a wifi extender, then she obviously doesn't have money.
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Have you ever considered that some people are just simply that cheap when it comes to things that mean little to them, or refuse to pay for something better unless it will be of greater convenience?
 
FuNiOnZ said:
Using wireless internet thats unsecured is classified as wire fraud? Since when? And who the hell has been arrested for using someone elses internet? :rolleyes:
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I have personally posted hundreds opf stories about people arrested (Starbucks, Library, etc. etc.) for "stealing" free wireless.

really.



J.C. said:
Nope, that is completely backwards. The most intelligent people tend to be researchers making very little money. Trash collectors on the other hand make more than many college professors.
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You are perpetuating myths:

Average professor salary in the U.S. (oddly enough, pay scales up with more education.)

Garbage man with 20 years on the job...lower than the lowest paid professor.
 
More fallout from Anti-Union hysteria.

Those fucking Blue Collar ratfuckers are always makin the big bucks, cause this is union thugs.

Meantime, back in the real world, yeah prof's get paid better than garbage collectors. Given the skillz required, and time involved in training, sounds about right to me.
 
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