Idk just saw another video with temps at 75c. So idk who the fuck is doing what lol. That cooler is pretty shitty though. As long as it's quiet I guess its fine. 1080/1070 run at 80+ with default fan speeds as well despite their rather good coolers. So I guess it's all good.
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Idk just saw another video with temps at 75c. So idk who the fuck is doing what lol. That cooler is pretty shitty though. As long as it's quiet I guess its fine. 1080/1070 run at 80+ with default fan speeds as well despite their rather good coolers. So I guess it's all good.
AMDTV would never lie. He just tells it as it is mang, you just don't get it.
Gotta work on your dialectics.
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NO! Comical shit is how he is going to spin it in his upcoming video, if AMD have been busy polishing a turd as Kyle amusingly said, then AdoredTV will now make it look pretty, dress it and eat it. LOL
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The 480 fan spins at much higher speeds, the reference 1080/70 don't even hit 50% last I chcked
plus if you need voltage increases it's gonna get out of hand quickly if this is how it behaves at stock
Kyle did say that earlier aib are reporting 1480 to 1600 with really good cooling but not GPUs will do that. so I guess rumors about chips running at 1500 stock with binned chips might be true.
I am talking about the quality of the heat sinks on those. They are rather good compared to block and copper core on the 480. That's what I am saying. As long as it is stable people will be fine at that price.
If this review comes to pass, pretty much all nV has to do is drop the 970 another 25 bucks and they are set, cause the 970 you can already get for under 300 bucks after rebates, overclocked versions. (if they can do that margins wise I guess worse comes to worse and they have supply issues)
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In EU rx480 is already priced as clearance 970s lmao (if latter are not cheaper, even!).
Either way, so i suppose der8auer was not kidding one bit yesterday when he mentioned that the card is simply bad proposition in EU.
Na he seemed pretty serious. He won't spread bullshit like that. He mentioned it like it is. I didn't see any level of sarcasm in his post.
I never even considered the 970 at 3.5 + .5 GB of RAM. It's why I think a 1060 3 GB is DOA (I'm even questioning the 1060 6 GB).
Well does the 980ti run out of memory in any games?
So yeah 6 gb should be more than enough.
3 gb might be a problem, we have seen the 970 hit the 3.5 gb barrier in quite a few games.
What I'm saying is an interim solution if they have sustained supply issues for more than a month.
So yeah 6 gb should be more than enough.
3 gb might be a problem, we have seen the 970 hit the 3.5 gb barrier in quite a few games.
What I'm saying is an interim solution if they have sustained supply issues for more than a month.
A lot of my impression (even before these initial numbers) came from the Sapphire tech's answer to a question on the Twitch stream.
This begs the question if the RX480 at 1600Mhz would still be characterized as a side-grade. Those were Sapphire's words after all. And if so, does the reduced noise (and better thermals) of a non-reference make this a more compelling product?
This begs the question if the RX480 at 1600Mhz would still be characterized as a side-grade. Those were Sapphire's words after all. And if so, does the reduced noise (and better thermals) of a non-reference make this a more compelling product?
A 6 GB 980Ti doesn't have issues with games now. It was only a year ago that we were questioning whether or not 6 GB was overkill. I'd consider it to be bare minimum within the next year or two and I tend to hold on to my graphics cards (oh, hell, who am I kidding? The whole goddamn system) for a lot longer than two years.
if you have a 390x its a side grade no matter what, I personally would go through the trouble of selling it. But at 1500+ with binned chips it should be pretty damn good. Given the stock cards are like capping at 1330
you still need the performance to use higher level textures and higher level shaders, so if the 1060 with 6 gb is performing like a 980 or just a bit faster, it should be fine on the memory front.
Personally I think the 8gb on the rx 480 is overkill.
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Yep.
8GB cards for crossfire only really.
Much smaller market. Way less satisfying on slow cards because when it doesnt work well, you are on a single 480.
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Perused the TPU review while waiting for [H] to put theirs up. Card performs exactly as I expected. No disappointment. But I had realistic expectations.
I'm getting 502 Bad Gateway every other page click haha. Lotta eyeballs for the RX480 reviews today.
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There's word doing the rounds that the 4 gig card has 8 gigs of vram, just needs a bios update though obviously thats a crapshoot. Think its mentioned in the pc per video review.
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Would like to see the 460/470 reviews as well.
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6GB on the 980Ti is perfect for the performance it has. The 1080Ti coming with HBM2 8GB or 12GB will make more use of the higher RAM capacity.
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To amend: Performance is where I expected it to be, hovering around the 970/980/390/390x depending on the test. Temps are high, so an AIB cooler is desired. But that power draw is bad. I'm OK with the 165W average, I just don't like it on a 6-pin design. They are going against ATX spec, and one review shows it drawing over 90W from the motherboard. That is not good. This should have had an 8-pin by default.
It looks like they intended it to be a lower clocked part, but had to push it to reach the target performance.
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Tom's was even worse. It's a desktop part so I don't mind the power draw. It's a slightly more powerful and slightly more efficient GTX 970 for $200. But it absolutely should have had an 8-pin.
The reference card WILL cause issues with many motherboards.
You don't even know how much heat and power it'll consume at 1500MHz+. Why would you take the trouble of selling your existing card, go without a card for a few days/weeks just to get the same performance/worse performance at an unknown reduction (if any) in power consumption.
Why the hell would you do that?
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There is no reason that I can think of if you already have a 390/390x. I only did it with a 970 for FreeSync, and even that is questionable to some. I absolutely would not drop a 390x for this card. TPU shows worse resolution scaling due to 256-bit bus as well.
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By the way guys, we've overlooked an actual kid elephant in the room.
Look, reference board is mostly salvaged by price in retail but there's one problem only few have noticed thus far: Reference board is the one that goes to OEM builds.
Reference board is also the board that overspecs motherboard PCI-E slot. I can't imagine any single OEM will like that.
Look, reference board is mostly salvaged by price in retail but there's one problem only few have noticed thus far: Reference board is the one that goes to OEM builds.
Reference board is also the board that overspecs motherboard PCI-E slot. I can't imagine any single OEM will like that.
I think the card is solid overall but the power consumption and its distribution is a disappointment and concern if using cheap-budget boards or critically going dual 480 - anyone doing that will need to check carefully.
TPU shows overall power consumption across all rails at 167W.
Tom's Hardware overall power consumption across all rails average at 164W - with Metro Last Light 4K
At Tom's the 1080FE power consumption in comparison is at 173W, but importantly Nvidia structure the power distribution better with the focus more on the PCIe rather than put stress-demand through the Mainboard 12V slot.
Here is how it breaks down for the 480, and why any dual setup needs to think about this:
In summary:
As a comparison the 1080FE at maximum draws 62W through the mainboard and average is 40W.
How this all pans out also including thermal and voltage (GPU) to clocks will be of great interest when it comes to OC.
Cheers
TPU shows overall power consumption across all rails at 167W.
Tom's Hardware overall power consumption across all rails average at 164W - with Metro Last Light 4K
At Tom's the 1080FE power consumption in comparison is at 173W, but importantly Nvidia structure the power distribution better with the focus more on the PCIe rather than put stress-demand through the Mainboard 12V slot.
Here is how it breaks down for the 480, and why any dual setup needs to think about this:
In summary:
As a comparison the 1080FE at maximum draws 62W through the mainboard and average is 40W.
How this all pans out also including thermal and voltage (GPU) to clocks will be of great interest when it comes to OC.
Cheers
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Isn't it absolutely hilarious that they changed the TDP of the rx480 to 110w today? As if changing the spec will somehow make the 60 additional watts it is consuming go away quietly
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How do they justify this over a 1060 for laptops/consoles is beyond me. 170w vs very likely 110
One performance summary has 1070 50% ahead of 480.
50% more performance, 15% less power
dude its going to get slaughtered against the 1060 when it comes to power consumption, unless nV really screws up which is not going to happen.
On a side note, when was the last time something like this happened, AKA rv680 launch. All the freakin hype that fans did just made a big disappointment at the end. At the price its a good card, but you aren't going to get any frills from it, bare bones, what ya see is what ya get.
On a side note, when was the last time something like this happened, AKA rv680 launch. All the freakin hype that fans did just made a big disappointment at the end. At the price its a good card, but you aren't going to get any frills from it, bare bones, what ya see is what ya get.
Hats off to Kyle, it looks like you were right about the heat and power usage.
I still don't think that this card was intended for stock 980ti performance, as it has 32 rops and it shows in 1440p+, but there is no doubt that perf/watt is much worse than what everyone expected. Not sure if its GF or AMD.
160 watts? worse perf/watt than a 980 (a bit better than 970)? Some throttling (according to TPU)? Noise (although less than 980ti according to TPU)? dissapointing.
perf/$ is still currently the highest though. I wouldn't recommend anything else in the 200$-250$ range, but I was expecting ~100-120watts for basically the same performance.
I still don't think that this card was intended for stock 980ti performance, as it has 32 rops and it shows in 1440p+, but there is no doubt that perf/watt is much worse than what everyone expected. Not sure if its GF or AMD.
160 watts? worse perf/watt than a 980 (a bit better than 970)? Some throttling (according to TPU)? Noise (although less than 980ti according to TPU)? dissapointing.
perf/$ is still currently the highest though. I wouldn't recommend anything else in the 200$-250$ range, but I was expecting ~100-120watts for basically the same performance.
I think 980-level performance at 130W would've been their goal.
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Newegg has a reference Powercolor RX 480 and the Asus GTX 970 Strix both at $240.... hmm, decisions, decisions. Yeah right.
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The decision is whether you can hold out for the 1060 in a few weeks.
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