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I agree with you 100%. I guess we will just need to wait and see what Microsoft has to say about this, not some random blogger.
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I agree with you 100%. I guess we will just need to wait and see what Microsoft has to say about this, not some random blogger.
Agreed. As of right now, my subscription is still active. The "maintenance" on the servers is supposed to end on Saturday, so I suppose we will find out by then. I got what I needed at least in terms of ISOs. Having an official Vista SP2 ISO is nice considering I was too lazy to do it myself. Ended up getting it in both flavors. I wish Server 2008 R2 was final as I'd get that as well since I already have a key from MSDNAA. I also found out DreamSpark is finally available for my university without jumping thru the JourneyEd site. I had sent them verification awhile back and never was able to get into the program. I sort of wish they'd give us Office 07 Standard for free or something. Or maybe the Student edition....seems to me Expression Studio and Visual Studio Pro is worth just as much as one of their office suites....
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wait a minute....people are pissed off because something they weren't entitled to in the first place is being taken away from them?
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Personally, I don't mind if MS realizes the issue and revokes the keys. That's their right, and if it was an honest mistake, I can understand it. I would be understandably disappointed, but not mad at them.
I WOULD be mad at them if they tried to come after me for dling the keys and isos that I did. Especially since i clicked over from another site and the ITAC thing was never mentioned on the sites I signed up on.
Well, I called UK Technet support because I can't get in any longer, I was given an ITAC login and password when I signed up, which doesn't work now as well. I was told microsoft is still going through and reapproving accounts, so it's just sit and wait for the time being.
I seriously doubt they'll go after people for downloading the ISOs. That's a PR nightmare and they're not likely to win against anyone that can afford a lawyer.
But I'm 100% OK with revoking the keys on those that didn't take the survey.
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Not to mention it would make Linux (and pretty much anything else) that much more appealing.
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Anyone who thought they'd be able to keep their subscription/keys for something that costs $200+/year were delusional. The people getting angry that MS is revoking keys are even more so.
If you want the keys, plunk down for a subscription to TechNet, it's one of the more worthwhile investments I do year after year. You get to play with a ton of OSes, get access to OSes/software earlier than the public, etc, etc.
If you want the keys, plunk down for a subscription to TechNet, it's one of the more worthwhile investments I do year after year. You get to play with a ton of OSes, get access to OSes/software earlier than the public, etc, etc.
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I just logged in this morning, and can't see my subscription information, and everything is greyed out.
I was listed with a UK login, thanks to doing the survey. I tried to put in USA, but no luck, so I just said "whatever".
Anyone else that was able to access it before still able to now? Is this just part of that scheduled maintenance and no one can get in? Or have I lost my account as well?
I was listed with a UK login, thanks to doing the survey. I tried to put in USA, but no luck, so I just said "whatever".
Anyone else that was able to access it before still able to now? Is this just part of that scheduled maintenance and no one can get in? Or have I lost my account as well?
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Show me one person that has gotten "pissed" over their keys being revoked. Why do people keep coming in here bashing us saying that we are getting "pissed" when not even one person has done so.
Not THAT is LMAO worth...
Your kidding right? MS put together a completely legitimate program with a free Technet sub as the incentive to participate, and MANY of us where completely set on going through with it and fulfilling what they wanted done. Your saying we are delusional?
What about honestly fulfilling the programs requirements and being given a legit Technet sub for doing so is delusional?
Or did you jump into this discussion half-way and not realize that this whole thing started out as a legitimate offer...
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It is very lame and they should honor this.
It's not like we hacked into their systems...they had a public accessible page to register for God's sake, that it not our fault.
If you want something to be private and only open for invitations then make sure you do not just leave the door open for anyone to come in.
It's not like we hacked into their systems...they had a public accessible page to register for God's sake, that it not our fault.
If you want something to be private and only open for invitations then make sure you do not just leave the door open for anyone to come in.
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OK, here ya go
heres another one
One you were not technically eligible for.
Yes, you are delusional for thinking anyone owes you anything when you were not eligible to participate in the first place.
Yes, it started out as a legit offer...for a select target market in the UK. I'm pretty sure Newtown, PA isnt in the UK.
My sub got shit canned to, big deal move on.
At least I've seen technet, and what it has to offer now. I'll be buying a sub in the next week
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I hope you leave the doors in your house open. I'll just stroll on in and help my self to some of your things, maybe drink a beer or two out of your fridge. Hey the door was open.
Why would they possibly honour this? Give me a compelling reason.
Your acting like I'm pissed and was expecting something. I wasn't "expecting" anything. What did I say that deserved to get attacked? Some people are ridiculously childish.
And why is there so many people here fighting like they work for MS? What, do you think they are going to give you a sub if you defend them? have anything better to do?
And why is there so many people here fighting like they work for MS? What, do you think they are going to give you a sub if you defend them? have anything better to do?
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So wait, they are revoking keys?
This is akin to your next-door neighbor announcing a party with free beer and chips. Then, when you get there, he's changed his mind and has everything locked away behind glass displays demanding to be paid before he'll allow access the goodies.
Is he within his rights to do so? Yes. Is it nice and what many would consider ethical behavior? Not in the slightest.
This is hardly a case of leaving your doors open for any Tom, Dick, or Harry thief to traipse on through. Microsoft made the offer and many of us accepted.
The "respectable" thing to've done in this situation, IMO, was to honor the subs for those that got their foot in the door. I tend to agree with a previous poster that this entire bait-and-switch was engineered to spotlight Technet and get people to pay for subs who otherwise would've had no clue.
BTW, leezard, I'm not pissed over keys getting revoked. I'm pissed that the entire program got revoked. I never had a chance to get any keys to get revoked.
Is he within his rights to do so? Yes. Is it nice and what many would consider ethical behavior? Not in the slightest.
This is hardly a case of leaving your doors open for any Tom, Dick, or Harry thief to traipse on through. Microsoft made the offer and many of us accepted.
The "respectable" thing to've done in this situation, IMO, was to honor the subs for those that got their foot in the door. I tend to agree with a previous poster that this entire bait-and-switch was engineered to spotlight Technet and get people to pay for subs who otherwise would've had no clue.
BTW, leezard, I'm not pissed over keys getting revoked. I'm pissed that the entire program got revoked. I never had a chance to get any keys to get revoked.
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Basically leezard already made my comment for me. Unless you live in the UK and were part of a select group of people eligible for this promotion, you fulfilled ZERO of the requirements. So yes, you're delusional in thinking you are owed anything for this, or that you fulfilled any of the requirements.
Yes, MS made a mistake in how access was granted, but like I stated in my previous post, just because a door is opened doesn't mean you're allowed to step through it.
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You're still missing the point entirely. If a bank machine were to spit out money after you had put your bank card in, you'd be required to give that money back. It's the same with this situation.
As far as I know, the program isn't revoked, it's just been changed to actually represent the original stipulations of the program.
They are black listing the keys issued to TechNet subscriptions that they invalidated. Those keys are null and void.
I agree completely. We aren't living in the UK. So we can't qualify for this deal. Move on. It was a mistake and any US address should have been denied on the spot.
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Are the keys revoked for everything, or, just the server 2008 lineup? I'm not too heartbroken either way, however, it's been on my agenda to buy my own technet subscription for about a year.
That's a bit of a stretch. A better analogy would be that people from two streets over got the party invite, completed the RSVPs, were accepted, and came, legitimately believing they were welcome, but were then denied the beer and chips. People keep saying this was a UK-only program, but it's obvious there >was< a US-accessible version of this "Pilot" sub variant.
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has anyone actually tried activating anything after their sub was revoked, I doubt they are actually blacklisting the keys from activation. My sub was revoked as well (exp date was updated to 6/1/2010 and I took the survey) and for the record I'm not mad or surprised, this should have been expected.
The way I understand it, all keys obtained from TechNet subscriptions that were cancelled due to not meeting the requirements for this deal will be invalidated. So any key obtained through a now cancelled TechNet subscription is no longer valid regardless fo what product it is for.
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Personally, I don't mind if they cancel or blacklist the keys I made, it is their right to do so. It was a great offer that I thought was legitimate. Still, I signed up with my real email address and info, so until Microsoft emails me officially telling me that the keys are invalid, I will continue to use the one I have already installed/activated and consider the few unused keys I have valid for my evaluation. I just logged into my technet account and there still are no notices that the offer and keys that were generated were invalid.
Did your subscription get canned?
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If you didn't receive an email with the link from Microsoft itself, then you technically weren't entitled to the subscription. End of story.
No amount of bitching, moaning, or whining will change that, and no amount of silly rationalizations will either. That's all there is to it, really. Sure, a lot of people (including myself) pounced on it looking for freebies, and we got some, but we were never really entitled to it, so if they pull the plug now no harm, no foul.
Microsoft will not pursue legal actions against the sheer number of people that signed up, they'll simply kill the accounts and blacklist the keys.
Now, will you people kindly STFU about it and move on to things that actually matter?
No amount of bitching, moaning, or whining will change that, and no amount of silly rationalizations will either. That's all there is to it, really. Sure, a lot of people (including myself) pounced on it looking for freebies, and we got some, but we were never really entitled to it, so if they pull the plug now no harm, no foul.
Microsoft will not pursue legal actions against the sheer number of people that signed up, they'll simply kill the accounts and blacklist the keys.
Now, will you people kindly STFU about it and move on to things that actually matter?
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I installed a VM of Vista Ultimate yesterday, the key activated without problem.
But, when I went to bed at 1AM, I was still able to access TechNet without complication, where today I can't check my subscription or generate keys or downloads.
I'd just like to know if it's down for everyone (including the unquestionably valid subscribers), or just those that took part in the deal.
I don't have the money, but if I have lost it, I will be looking into a subscription around Windows 7's release.
But, when I went to bed at 1AM, I was still able to access TechNet without complication, where today I can't check my subscription or generate keys or downloads.
I'd just like to know if it's down for everyone (including the unquestionably valid subscribers), or just those that took part in the deal.
I don't have the money, but if I have lost it, I will be looking into a subscription around Windows 7's release.
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When logged in now my sub is gone and mine was one of those that got converted to retail and showed as good through 2010. On the page that showed the sub details - it's just gone. However on the downloads page - all is grayed out but this (see below) is at the top, so it's remotely possible that not all hope is lost and they just have the entire backend of the system down. I doubt it though, I'm pretty confident all subs from this are gone and the keys will probably be invalidated. Only key I actually used was for a Win 7 RC though. If things dont come back I'll just subscribe. No biggie to me either way. You win some you lose some.
I am a valid subscriber. I paid for my TechNet subscription yesterday and did everything I've needed to do. I downloaded 6 ISO's and generated at least that many keys. In one or two instances I generated more than one key if I needed to put the software more than one place. In any event since signing up and paying the $296.95 or whatever it was after the coupon, I've had zero problems with TechNet.
EDIT: I just checked TechNet and I can generate keys and download software. So if you can't and you participated in the deal, it would appear that your subscriptions are canned. After mine was canned I could still browse the downloads, but I couldn't get keys or actually download ISO's.
EDIT: I just checked TechNet and I can generate keys and download software. So if you can't and you participated in the deal, it would appear that your subscriptions are canned. After mine was canned I could still browse the downloads, but I couldn't get keys or actually download ISO's.
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Except those people got the RSVPs were people the party thrower actually knew, and you got the RSVPs because of an error in his party invite system(TM)
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Can you currently generate keys and download files? Or has the maintenance disabled things for you as well?
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TechNet is pretty damn awesome. I think I've had a sub for it for about 3-4 years now. Being able to install and use all the server OSes + applications like Exchange, etc is worth the price of entry.
I can generate keys right now and download software.
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Ok. My account is probably hosed then. Time to start saving up for a subscription then.
I live in the UK and my sub was yanked too.
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I just logged in and generated a key for server 2k3 SBS. No problems to report.