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please help. I have an old emachine with PIII 400mHz cpu that I dont use at all. I can put it up on a brodband and let it go on forever. Does this have enough juice to fold??? It runs windows 98. will be happy to fold but will need a little help. Thanks.
 
Actually being a Win98 Machine, it will need to run the v4 F@H client. I believe you will need to run the Genome @ Home option. It should be one of the first options you are prompted with.

 
thanks ill fire that deal up tomorrow and see if it will fly.
 
Ok good deal, let us know how it works (if it works..) if it doesnt... we will send someone to beat it up... or at least talk you through it!
 
I currently only have one machine for the sole purpose of folding - My P233 :p

I'm running a very light Mandrake (samba and Apache).

I can't seem to get any cgi script to work, though....
 
Codegen: Start a thread in the Linux/BSD subforum and you'll get help. Those guys know what they're talking about.
 
it'll fold great. in fact, if you leave it running 24/7 w/ a stripped down/tweaked v. of Win98 (pm me for details) it could probalby do regular WUs fine.

just barely w/i timelines, and def. no Big WUs or QMDs or the such, but i think it could handle the Gromacs/Ambers/Non Tless T fine...
 
FYI- I don't think there exists a P3 400 mzh chip. I think it's P3 450 on up, with P2's 233-500 range.

Actually I have a P2 450 512 ram XP which is doing a 600 point WU. ~845 hours to complete :eek:

The P3's have SSE which helps somewhat.
 
marty's actually right on this one... slowest P3 is a 450. P2s went to 500 IRC. Celeys follow the same. P3s or celerys have SSE which helps alot.

And marty.. 35 days.. well that is, well, under the deadline of 56 days ;)


 
[H]ugh_Freak said:
marty's actually right on this one...
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You imply this as a first..... :mad:

Celerons don't have SSE till the 667 mzh and on up.

:p
 
marty9876 said:
You imply this as a first..... :mad:

Celerons don't have SSE till the 667 mzh and on up.

:p
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533 and up. That is when they switched from PPGA to FC-PGA. That switched the P2 core for the P3 core. :D

P3 Lineup
 
well,nonetheless my old emachine has a SMALL cpu by todays standards,we should all agree. I didnt have much time to fuss with it today, I had to watch the kids!!! I went to the stanford site and I think this should work just fine. I dont plan to use this for anything but folding. I should load the console only version for w98 correct? Hopefully tomorrow it will be running for [H]orde. :D On second thought this cpu is probably a 600 mHz, I was tired. :confused:
 
As stated earlier, you will need to run the v4 console. You might want to consider looking up the instructions to set that up as a "service" for Win98 so that it will automatically restart on reboot.

You might also consider one of the various Linux distros out there as the word is that they use a little less resources.

You'll definitely want to use one of the monitoring programs to make sure you're hitting deadlines however. Late units don't do anyone any favors. :D

 
Carnival Forces, when you say tweeked win98, do you mean changing the startup thing from the .com to the .exe ? makes it like win 3.1..?


Anyway, a P3 600mhz will probably get you around 22-28 points per day, which to start out with is fine. If you will not be using the computer, then the consle version along with some monitoring software like EMIII will work good.
For mor info about EMIII check out the website at http://home.comcast.net/~wxdude1/emsite/em3.html

Great way to get started!

~Hope this helps
 
towert7 said:
Carnival Forces, when you say tweeked win98, do you mean changing the startup thing from the .com to the .exe ? makes it like win 3.1..?
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no, i mean
tweaked ;)

specifically, the scanreg /opt and the walign tweak

what is this "windows 3.1" tweak you speak of? :confused:
 
Carnival Forces said:
what is this "windows 3.1" tweak you speak of? :confused:
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Oh boy, this was a long time ago.

Basically, in win 98, you open up sysedit and there is something that has a startup path or something... I really forget what it was called, it might be something like win.com or something, but there is another version of it, like a win.exe or something.

It will make the entire CGI look like win3.1 (i think it works with both win 95 and 98se).
Ive never done it, but people claimed that it used quite a bit less resources then the normal win98 CGI. (CGI = GUI to me).

I tried doing a google search for it again, but i did'nt find anything on it and i don't have a win98 box with me to check. Ask around and im sure some people here remember it.
 
I know what you're talking about, changing you're Windows shell from explorer.exe to progman.exe.

Nothing like taking a step back in time to the good ol days. While you're there, drop that res to 640x480 and 256 colors.

System.ini is the file you have to change I think, look for the shell= line. ;)

 
YUP! that's the one!

I have to install win98 on a computer to see how this works.
 
You sir, obviously like things good and painful. ;)

Only a true masochist would want to go through such pain.... himem, autoexec, config.sys.... damn it just got cold in here. I could be wrong, but I think in older versions of Windows, it might be in the win.ini file. I think system.ini came about with 2K and XP.

 
p[H]ant0m said:
You sir, obviously like things good and painful. ;)

Only a true masochist would want to go through such pain.... himem, autoexec, config.sys.... damn it just got cold in here. I could be wrong, but I think in older versions of Windows, it might be in the win.ini file. I think system.ini came about with 2K and XP.

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na, you're wrong.

system.ini existed all the way back in win3.1 (or maybe it was called sys.ini back then, ,either way, the file existed)

I can't remember what the program was called back then, but it was funtionally equivalent to msconfig and it allowed you to edit your win.ini, system.ini, autexec.bat, config.sys and your windows/startmenu/programs/startup files. while it was never for the super uber user it should be fine for the average person looking to tweek these files.

speaking of the elder files, don't forget emm386, doskey.sys, and ansi.sys (BTW for those that miss the function of doskey and ansi, freeware versions have been writted that work in winXP google doskey.com and ansi.com. I spent a lot of time tweeking my config.sys and autoexec.bat to maximize performance of doom, darkforces, quake and dukenukem3D on a 486.


The [H]orde needs You!
 
jfb9301 said:
na, you're wrong.

system.ini existed all the way back in win3.1 (or maybe it was called sys.ini back then) either way, the file existed)

I can't remember what the program was called back then, but it was funtionally equivalent to msconfig and it allowed you to edit your win.ini, system.ini, autexec.bat, config.sys and your windows/startmenu/programs/startup files. while it was never for the super uber user it should be fine for the average person looking to tweek these files.


The [H]orde needs You!
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I remeber what program you are talking about as well.. and I cant for the life of me remeber it either :confused:
 
I'm not a linux !!!!!! but I really could not recommend stepping back to win98 to fold. Personnally if I couldn't get a modern linux distro to load I'd look around for a copy of redhat 5.2 (mearly because I know that distro will load on a machine that doesn't have a lot of memory) and fold from the console from that. I wouldn't even waste my time loading gnome or KDE. If all the machine is going to do is fold, the console is perfect. The learning curve is steep, but if win2k and winxp won't load, I'd definitly go linux.


The [H]orde needs You!
 
OR... you can always get fold-serv... and use it as the server box for your farm :)
 
win98-progman.png

Win98 running Progman.

<- VMware and too much free time. :p

edit: Go fold-server!

 
jfb9301 said:
system.ini existed all the way back in win3.1 (or maybe it was called sys.ini back then, ,either way, the file existed)

I can't remember what the program was called back then, but it was funtionally equivalent to msconfig and it allowed you to edit your win.ini, system.ini, autexec.bat, config.sys and your windows/startmenu/programs/startup files. while it was never for the super uber user it should be fine for the average person looking to tweek these files
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Ah that's right, for some reason, I think there was some clock program that I used that I added a load= line to the win.ini file so it ran at startup.

And I think the program you're thinking of was edit.exe ;) j/k

For some reason that screenshot was freaking me out, it was just missing the good ol Packard Bell Navigator, and the nightmare would be complete.


 
KodiakStar said:
I remeber what program you are talking about as well.. and I cant for the life of me remeber it either :confused:
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Don't ask me why I remember crap like this...sysedit :eek:
My brain scares me sometimes... :)

 
sawatt said:
Don't ask me why I remember crap like this...sysedit :eek:
My brain scares me sometimes... :)

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ding ding we have a winner.. i knew it was something like that!

them were the days!
 
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