This^
They are a great combination to have a really fast and responsive system.
But yeah, running a completely mechanical free system since a month ago and it is awesome.
Oh and yeah and welcome to the club. Glad you like it
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First SSD... I'm amazed
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This^
They are a great combination to have a really fast and responsive system.
But yeah, running a completely mechanical free system since a month ago and it is awesome.
Oh and yeah and welcome to the club. Glad you like it
I can't see anyone not being able to justify SSDs, especially summer 2012, when you can get 120GB SSDs for around 80 bucks. Yeah, 3 years ago when they were 300-500 bucks for a 80GB it wasn't worth it, but now.. there is no question....
And yes, if all you do is play games, if you don't mind waiting a bit for load times, there is very little difference once you are actually playing the game. But if you actually use your computer for ANYTHING else besides games, copy files around, do a virus scan, browse the internet, etc.... the SSD is just amazing.... I can instantly tell when I am using a computer with a conventional HDD...
For those of you who commented, saying that you don't see the big deal with SSDs, yet you are running your OS on a SSD, I challenge you to reinstall on a mechanical HDD and tell me how your experience goes.... when using a SSD you forget how you used to have to wait with the hourglass spinning at every turn, installing programs isn't basically instantaneous, and basic operations are a stop and go experience.
And yes, if all you do is play games, if you don't mind waiting a bit for load times, there is very little difference once you are actually playing the game. But if you actually use your computer for ANYTHING else besides games, copy files around, do a virus scan, browse the internet, etc.... the SSD is just amazing.... I can instantly tell when I am using a computer with a conventional HDD...
For those of you who commented, saying that you don't see the big deal with SSDs, yet you are running your OS on a SSD, I challenge you to reinstall on a mechanical HDD and tell me how your experience goes.... when using a SSD you forget how you used to have to wait with the hourglass spinning at every turn, installing programs isn't basically instantaneous, and basic operations are a stop and go experience.
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I'm finding a correlation here. Everyone who wasn't impressed with SSDs had them RAIDed together.
Maybe RAID sucks.
The more likely explanation is that that most people who own raided ssd's previously owned radied spinners. There is less of a performance jump going from raided spinners to ssd. Also, people with raids probably don't skimp on ram.
I'm one of these people. There's a difference on some tasks but it's nothing to do backflips over.
The biggest difference I saw was moving my browser directories over to a ramdisk and you can do that without an ssd. I did it because Chrome and Firefox love to bang on the disk constantly even when there's nothing going on.
There's still a lot of extra hassle that comes with ssd ownership. It's not for everyone.
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Yeah, I went from a pair of RAID 0 640GB 7200RPM WD Blues to a pair of RAID 0 128GB Plextor M3s. There wasn't that big a difference, and that was largely because the HDD RAID 0 array was already quite fast.
I hadn't even thought of moving the browser cache dirs to RAM disk, as kristof suggests, and for me in my usage scenario that'd pretty much eliminate any real improvement from running a SSD for me. With 16GB of RAM I can spare 2GB for that.
I hadn't even thought of moving the browser cache dirs to RAM disk, as kristof suggests, and for me in my usage scenario that'd pretty much eliminate any real improvement from running a SSD for me. With 16GB of RAM I can spare 2GB for that.
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If you're on Linux check out profile-sync-deamon. It's full of win! Link is for arch but it's been ported to other distributions. The ubuntu package works perfectly on debian btw.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Profile-sync-daemon
I think you can draw some parallels between an SSD upgrade to other upgrades, which means it is not for everyone.
Take video card for example, for someone who doesn't play any games, putting a high-end, multi-hundred dollar 2GB video card in their machine and they will reply "meh". Put that same card in someone else's machine which will barely play the latest game on lowest settings, and that person will swear that the upgrade is the real deal.
Same with memory - my wife and I share a Toshiba laptop. I run virtual machines for work, so when I upgraded the memory from 4GB to 8GB, she could not tell the difference. But for me, it meant I could run more than one virtual machine at a time, plus I multi-task like crazy, often have many browser tabs going for work research, numerous office apps and VMs, so the 4 to 8GB ram upgrade is a must.
If SSDs are "meh" to you, than obviously you don't stress your drives all that much. Lower latency and better random access is not something your usage pattern matters.
That said, it is hard for me to wrap my mind around the idea that any "enthusiast" on the [H] forum would run mechanical hard drive(s) for their OS today. IMHO, that is a rough equivalent of gaming off Intel HD graphics - nothing wrong with it, just not what I'd exepect from an enthusiast.
Take video card for example, for someone who doesn't play any games, putting a high-end, multi-hundred dollar 2GB video card in their machine and they will reply "meh". Put that same card in someone else's machine which will barely play the latest game on lowest settings, and that person will swear that the upgrade is the real deal.
Same with memory - my wife and I share a Toshiba laptop. I run virtual machines for work, so when I upgraded the memory from 4GB to 8GB, she could not tell the difference. But for me, it meant I could run more than one virtual machine at a time, plus I multi-task like crazy, often have many browser tabs going for work research, numerous office apps and VMs, so the 4 to 8GB ram upgrade is a must.
If SSDs are "meh" to you, than obviously you don't stress your drives all that much. Lower latency and better random access is not something your usage pattern matters.
That said, it is hard for me to wrap my mind around the idea that any "enthusiast" on the [H] forum would run mechanical hard drive(s) for their OS today. IMHO, that is a rough equivalent of gaming off Intel HD graphics - nothing wrong with it, just not what I'd exepect from an enthusiast.
Boot time went down from 44 to 31 secs. Starting SW:Tor (from hitting play button to character chosing screen) went down from 32s to 20s. And biggest increase in loading speed was in LA Noire - from 1:22 to 58 secs. Also no more milling of the HDD's header which was irritating during night sessions
That thing is silent, fast and nice. Now I don't doubt when people state on forums, taht first thing you need to upgrade is HDD to SSD.
It takes windows a long time to boot my HTPC. Pci and PCIe hard drive controllers. 11 hard drives. 7 USB TV tuners. Network connection. And of course, my TV recording software.
The difference between using a SSD and a HDD is insignificant. 10 or 11 HDDs make about the same amount of noise - none if I am sitting across the room.
Ripping disks or removing commercials from TV programs takes the same amount of time usig a SSD or a HHD.
Different horses for different courses.
?? Please explain..... its just a storage device, its not like you need to perform any extra maintenance (assuming you have an OS that supports TRIM)
They are pretty much plug and play. I haven't touched mine and they are fine. They don't fragment so they never drop performance. Such a peace of mind in my book.