Firmware Updates Available For GTX 1070 Memory Issues

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After a little detective work by the folks at Guru3D, it looks as though some manufacturers are rolling out firmware updates to address memory issues on graphics cards equipped with Micron memory.

GeForce GTX 1070 cards fitted with Samsung memory do not have any issues, however some manufacturers have or switched towards Micron chips, and these are the culprit of the reported issues. Especially during overclocking of the graphics memory problems will appear fast with bad results like checkerboard patterns. The problem is was found in the the speed of the voltage adjustment from the low power idle P-States to support the memory voltage requirements under load. If you can keep the idle voltage above 0.800V before you apply the overclock you never see the issue.
 
Wait, it's an issue not a feature?

Wow, good for green, I think we've made real progress here.
 
lol that headline just gave me flashbacks. I was like OMG another GTX x70 card memory issue. :)
 
Next series releases.... "Hey, remember how last time, the people who bought it first got better memory? Better jump in now, just in case!"
 
Its for improved memory OC and it actually works for Samsung chips too.
 
this sound exactly like the issue with my(and other's) 280x. at least they got it fixed up!
 
Shintai said:
Its for improved memory OC and it actually works for Samsung chips too.
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Source? Kind of a risky thing to post if not rock-solid.

I have Samsung RAM on my Armor OC and no way I'll be doing any BIOS flashing; why flash with a fix for a non-existent problem?
 
Prisoner849 said:
Source? Kind of a risky thing to post if not rock-solid.

I have Samsung RAM on my Armor OC and no way I'll be doing any BIOS flashing; why flash with a fix for a non-existent problem?
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o_O

The bios rollout was initiated by Nvidia themselves and applies to all cards. This is bizarre. I've never seen so many ppl in this thread and others allergic to bios update that improves mem perf or fixes existing issues.
 
thesmokingman said:
o_O

The bios rollout was initiated by Nvidia themselves and applies to all cards. This is bizarre. I've never seen so many ppl in this thread and others allergic to bios update that improves mem perf or fixes existing issues.
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Yeah for real... Less kickback seen in threads promoting custom BIOS LOL.
I dont have a 1070 but I flashed my 1080 and its easy as can be.
 
Prisoner849 said:
Source? Kind of a risky thing to post if not rock-solid.

I have Samsung RAM on my Armor OC and no way I'll be doing any BIOS flashing; why flash with a fix for a non-existent problem?
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Friend couldn't even OC memory 100Mhz with his 1070 and Samsung memory, now he can do 300+.
 
thesmokingman said:
o_O

The bios rollout was initiated by Nvidia themselves and applies to all cards. This is bizarre. I've never seen so many ppl in this thread and others allergic to bios update that improves mem perf or fixes existing issues.
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A year from now they will start having problems when everyone has forgotten about it. :)
 
Just when this start to happen Palit pulls the BIOS from their site. I wonder how long it'll take for new ones to appear.
 
thesmokingman said:
o_O

The bios rollout was initiated by Nvidia themselves and applies to all cards. This is bizarre. I've never seen so many ppl in this thread and others allergic to bios update that improves mem perf or fixes existing issues.
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Please.

Guess you've never bricked a card doing a flash? Flashing a BIOS always carries a risk. Bricking would even be made worse if it isn't really necessary. And nothing wrong with wanting a source.

I've been following this story pretty closely and have seen nothing about people flashing cards that have Samsung memory, which apparently don't exhibit the issue. In fact, I have only seen warnings against doing it. Furthermore, I haven't seen any MSI bios updates out there to first research and then make a decision about yet (apparently in the works). Also a question about warranty; will flashing a non-affected card void it?

Not allergic, just careful. I'll let you be the guinea pig.
 
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Prisoner849 said:
Please.

Guess you've never bricked a card doing a flash? Flashing a BIOS always carries a risk. Bricking would even be made worse if it isn't really necessary. And nothing wrong with wanting a source.

I've been following this story pretty closely and have seen nothing about people flashing cards that have Samsung memory, which apparently don't exhibit the issue. In fact, I have only seen warnings against doing it. Furthermore, I haven't seen any MSI bios updates out there to first research and then make a decision about yet (apparently in the works). Also a question about warranty; will flashing a non-affected card void it?

Not allergic, just careful. I'll let you be the guinea pig.
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It will void the warranty as much as it does on your motherboard when you flash that. You use the BIOS update from the AIB and be done with it.
 
Shintai said:
Its for improved memory OC and it actually works for Samsung chips too.
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I'm pretty sure he was talking about flashing Samsung based cards with the micron bios. which I can see why hes questioning it if the Samsung didn't have the prob. but if a regular old bios update for your specific card is available, then I agree, its safe.
 
Prisoner849 said:
Please.

Guess you've never bricked a card doing a flash? Flashing a BIOS always carries a risk. Bricking would even be made worse if it isn't really necessary. And nothing wrong with wanting a source.

I've been following this story pretty closely and have seen nothing about people flashing cards that have Samsung memory, which apparently don't exhibit the issue. In fact, I have only seen warnings against doing it. Furthermore, I haven't seen any MSI bios updates out there to first research and then make a decision about yet (apparently in the works). Also a question about warranty; will flashing a non-affected card void it?

Not allergic, just careful. I'll let you be the guinea pig.
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This is not some bios written by some user, its a manufacturer updated bios. Each AIB will have their own flash process, tools, or timeline to rollout etc. It's rather idiot proof. Why would flashing a manufacturer provided bios which fixes a problem void a warranty? That would be highly illegal and breaks at least one Federal law.

Whose gonna be a guinea pig? Actually, I don't need to run this bios as I have a TxP. You sure you looked or did your homework?

thesmokingman said:
https://forums.geforce.com/default/...cron-memory-1070-cards-/post/4986835/#4986835


http://forums.evga.com/FindPost/2565262

http://forums.evga.com/FindPost/2565398

http://forums.evga.com/FindPost/2565134

http://forums.evga.com/FindPost/2565104
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thesmokingman said:
It applies to all brands, all cards...

EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 BIOS Update v86.04.50.00.70 - EVGA Forums
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But how many reference Nvidia cards actually need this BIOS, which are all designed around the Samsung memory?
TBH those Pascal cards with Samsung memory already overclock that like mad, so I wonder if some of the AIB are trying to save face with their switching from what the reference cards were designed around and changing to a different manufacturer.
That said one would not necessarily expect to have a problem when switching to another component manufacturer for GDDR5 memory, so it is an interesting problem.
Cheers
 
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pendragon1 said:
I'm pretty sure he was talking about flashing Samsung based cards with the micron bios. which I can see why hes questioning it if the Samsung didn't have the prob. but if a regular old bios update for your specific card is available, then I agree, its safe.
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There isn't such thing as a Micron BIOS. Its a BIOS for 1070 cards, no matter the memory. And the point is to improve memory overclocking.
 
come on man, it was a typo, I meant micron ram. It was stated that this is to fix issues with cards that have micron ram.

Steve said:
however some manufacturers have or switched towards Micron chips, and these are the culprit of the reported issues
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I gave the Samsung chips. No BIOS from Zotac yet. But I am having some weird issues with Doom.
 
CSI_PC said:
Just Doom or other games as well with the same behaviour?
Cheers
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Just Doom. Seems very level specific. All kinds of craziness on this specific spot.

Also a minor issue with some alarm lights that go away with DSR x4.
 
thesmokingman said:
This is not some bios written by some user, its a manufacturer updated bios. Each AIB will have their own flash process, tools, or timeline to rollout etc. It's rather idiot proof. Why would flashing a manufacturer provided bios which fixes a problem void a warranty? That would be highly illegal and breaks at least one Federal law.

Whose gonna be a guinea pig? Actually, I don't need to run this bios as I have a TxP. You sure you looked or did your homework?
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Yep. BIOS flashes are never idiot-proof; you obviously haven't done many. While the BIOS is indeed "official", it isn't for everyone. From your link:

"We have implemented a change to our video BIOS which should improve the overclocking experience for certain users."

"Certain" being important.

I don't need the BIOS either, as I have a 1070 with Samsung memory.
 
dgz said:
Just Doom. Seems very level specific. All kinds of craziness on this specific spot.

Also a minor issue with some alarm lights that go away with DSR x4.
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If its only Doom I doubt it is the HW as it would impact more games.
You could have some unusual driver conflict or game corruption, probably would start with a remove driver and clean install of latest driver, check if other games are still fine/Doom and if still problems re-install doom.
Before re-installing the game could try it with different settings specifically related to alias/shadow detail/resolution to see if the anomaly is an issue in-game.

Cheers
 
CSI_PC said:
If its only Doom I doubt it is the HW as it would impact more games.
You could have some unusual driver conflict or game corruption, probably would start with a remove driver and clean install of latest driver, check if other games are still fine/Doom and if still problems re-install doom.
Before re-installing the game could try it with different settings specifically related to alias/shadow detail/resolution to see if the anomaly is an issue in-game.

Cheers
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Thanks for your input. Another person is having the exact same issue which means it's the game.
 
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