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Fired Over A Facebook Post

I did a stint as a volunteer in a mentoring program for low income kids when I first started my current job in the City. Having went to a good school district all my life it was really perspective changing to see how little a lot of the teachers cared.

Then there is the lack of funds. It is easy to blame the schools but one also needs to put things in perspective. We love to talk about how much China is spending on their military. However there military to education spending is about 5:3 while our military to education spending is 10:1. So in proportion they spend 6 times more on education than us.
 
bigddybn said:
No it doesn't. The point here isn't whether the kid did or didn't ask for a meal. The problem is the method this guy used to express his "concern." Contacting the school officials directly instead of publicly posting a rant on facebook would have yielded very different results for the employee.
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Contacting the school might have saved him his job,but would we be talking about it right now? No. They would have told him they'd look into the problem,then forgotten about it ten minutes after he left.
 
Oh, so if I understand some of you correctly then this bus driver should have been fired because the employer wrote it in the handbook. The problem I see here is that the employer is a government agency and because of that they are directly violation the Constitution. Either that or allow public schools to openly have prayer and teach religion in school. They currently do not because of what? Anyone? That's right, the Constitution. This is another example of Government not following it's own policies, but instead forcing it's will and agenda where it sees fit.

Our US government is a joke. Has been for many, many years and will continue until we stand up and take it back.

Quick someone call the Gubment. I bad mouthed them.
 
People have the freedom to say what they want ... and employers have the freedom to fire their ass if they don't like it. Freedom of speech is not about no ramifications for saying things ... it is about not being jailed for saying those things, period. That is reality and it isn't a problem. If you want to bad-mouth the company you work for in a public setting then you better have your resume ready. No court in the country is going to side with you on that. This isn't about freedom of speech or anything else but a guy that fucked up. Whether the story the kid told is accurate or not at this stage is completely irrelevant. The driver agreed to terms of employment and then violated those terms of employment. The law is very simple on this matter and always has been. Even when given a chance to reconsider he said "no thanks" and agreed to termination.

To be blunt, the guy fell into the trap that a lot of people fall into in this day and age ... thinking that posting on Facebook is somehow exactly like chatting with your friends in your house. It isn't. Get over it. Facebook is a very public forum of communication and it should be treated as such. As for not mentioning where he worked ... irrelevant. People who saw the comment are probably fully aware of which school he was driving for daily. It isn't like his life was a mystery to the people.

He fucked up. He was given a chance to apologize and said "no thanks". End of story. If it wasn't for the Facebook connection we wouldn't be reading about it.
 
michael.pa2 said:
Contacting the school might have saved him his job,but would we be talking about it right now? No. They would have told him they'd look into the problem,then forgotten about it ten minutes after he left.
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The only reason we are talking about this is because it involved Facebook. Is that your standard of importance now?
 
Ididar said:
People have the freedom to say what they want ... and employers have the freedom to fire their ass if they don't like it. Freedom of speech is not about no ramifications for saying things ... it is about not being jailed for saying those things, period. That is reality and it isn't a problem. If you want to bad-mouth the company you work for in a public setting then you better have your resume ready. No court in the country is going to side with you on that. This isn't about freedom of speech or anything else but a guy that fucked up. Whether the story the kid told is accurate or not at this stage is completely irrelevant. The driver agreed to terms of employment and then violated those terms of employment. The law is very simple on this matter and always has been. Even when given a chance to reconsider he said "no thanks" and agreed to termination.

To be blunt, the guy fell into the trap that a lot of people fall into in this day and age ... thinking that posting on Facebook is somehow exactly like chatting with your friends in your house. It isn't. Get over it. Facebook is a very public forum of communication and it should be treated as such. As for not mentioning where he worked ... irrelevant. People who saw the comment are probably fully aware of which school he was driving for daily. It isn't like his life was a mystery to the people.

He fucked up. He was given a chance to apologize and said "no thanks". End of story. If it wasn't for the Facebook connection we wouldn't be reading about it.
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+1 to every word of this. If you stop looking for a reason to "hate the man" and take this on it's merits it's the only logical conclusion.
 
Hooksalot said:
Oh, so if I understand some of you correctly then this bus driver should have been fired because the employer wrote it in the handbook. The problem I see here is that the employer is a government agency and because of that they are directly violation the Constitution. Either that or allow public schools to openly have prayer and teach religion in school. They currently do not because of what? Anyone? That's right, the Constitution. This is another example of Government not following it's own policies, but instead forcing it's will and agenda where it sees fit.

Our US government is a joke. Has been for many, many years and will continue until we stand up and take it back.

Quick someone call the Gubment. I bad mouthed them.
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Except the constitution doesn't restrict the government on managing "free speech" ... It only says that Congress can't pass laws restricting it ... People like to add restrictions that aren't there ... He was a public employee for the state of Georgia (actually probably a city or county of Georgia ) ... He was working for a right to work state where companies can dismiss you for any reason at any time ... He was fired not for speaking but for violating a policy about speaking (it may be a fine line but it is definitely legal) ;)
 
Guy's in the right 100%. Fuck them, and fuck the society that thinks that is OK. I especially liked the part about food stamps for crackheads.
 
bigddybn said:
The problem is the method this guy used to express his "concern." Contacting the school officials directly instead of publicly posting a rant on facebook would have yielded very different results for the employee.
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Yeah, he probably still would have been fired, except no one would know about it;)
 
Crosshairs said:
Yeah, he probably still would have been fired, except no one would know about it;)
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Yes I am certain a school district employee bringing a valid student concern to the school administration would get him fired. :rolleyes:
 
bigddybn said:
Yes I am certain a school district employee bringing a valid student concern to the school administration would get him fired. :rolleyes:
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I wouldn't doubt it for a minute.....school administration in most places is about as fucked up as it gets....education and students are the last thing they are worried about.
 
Pay your damn bill or no soup for you!

Simple as that. The welfare of children is in the hands of the parents who didn't pay the bill, they are to blame for this entire mess, no one else.
 
bigddybn said:
The only reason we are talking about this is because it involved Facebook. Is that your standard of importance now?
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It doesn't matter how it came to light,what does matter is that it became public knowledge,and how school officials reacted to it. And I wouldn't doubt that they would have fired the driver even if he went through "proper" channels,bureaucrats like them are paranoid as hell about someone finding out how incompetent they really are,so they don't like anyone rocking the boat.
 
michael.pa2 said:
I wouldn't doubt that they would have fired the driver even if he went through "proper" channels,bureaucrats like them are paranoid as hell about someone finding out how incompetent they really are,so they don't like anyone rocking the boat.
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Was the irony intentional? Either way, if HE was paranoid that he'd lose his job to paranoid bureaucrats, then he'd certainly be paranoid about posting about the event, under his own name, GLOBALLY visible (it seems) on Facebook.

I tend to think they wouldn't fire him. They'd quietly look into and try to fix the problem or sweep it under the rug, but getting rid of the driver only makes it likely that he'll go public.

Regardless, there's no difference between this school and most companies.
 
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