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I've been looking into the 6P with Google Fi.. seems a real nice cost effective way to go, especially with the discount currently. I've never heard of Axon, but the specs seem impressive on the 7, especially at this price. Obviously it wouldn't be able to work with Google Fi, which sucks cause i don't really want to pay all up front.
Mind elaborating for those of us that have never had an android phone but are looking into it? What phone did you get? Is there that much bloat on other brands that aren't nexus?Holy crap, I had forgotten how nice it is to have a straight-up Android OS without all the Samsung and Verizon bloat on it, without having to root my phone. It was wonderful to go into the Verizon store and get a new nanoSIM card and look at their sad faces because they couldn't sell me anything. Going into a phone store is like going to a used car lot. So shady and you can't trust anything they say.
Mind elaborating for those of us that have never had an android phone but are looking into it? What phone did you get? Is there that much bloat on other brands that aren't nexus?
Thanks a lot for the info. I thought getting an android phone was going to be simple... until i started looking into it! lol
Nexus 6P 128GB.
One niggling thing though... Google has decided I need their search bar at the top of my home screen and I haven't figured out how to get rid of that yet. It's annoying me already.
I've got to say, I really didn't have any issue or qualms about the Note 3, other than the pointless, junky apps on it, but it was getting old and wasn't going to ever get Marshmallow, let alone Nougat, from Verizon. (Plus I'd dropped it a couple times over the years and it had a tendency to reboot randomly.) I'm not the kind of person that mods and puts 100 apps on my phone either. I use it for internet browsing, email, IM, ebay/shopping, paying bills, playing a game here and there, forum posting... stuff like that. Pretty much any phone will do what I need it to do. But I really don't like how fast the phone companies abandon last years hardware, in the hope they can sell me something new. That's the main reason I went with the Nexus phone. At least Google has regular updates and I already know I'll be getting Nougat right away. Also, I like front firing speakers and this 6P has them, which is something Samsung has never done.To echo Astral's comments above: it's been awesome using the Moto X Pure for the past year without even thinking about rooting or ROMing. It works as it should out of the box, like an iPhone, but with the power of Android under the hood. Using CM and other ROMs on my previous Samsung device was usually a "95% perfect" experience, with the occasional reboot or nagging bug with something like Bluetooth or even SMS. This is why I simply refuse to go back to Samsung/LG/HTC, no matter how sweet their cameras and AMOLED panels may be. Their stock skinned software usually works pretty well (albeit ugly) out of the box, then gets borked on some future half-assed update 6 months later, forcing you into a custom ROM that's smoother but buggy.
With the Moto X Pure, despite it being a middling device from a hardware perspective, I've had zero software problems after nearly a year of use. It's flawless. This has been true even after a major update from 5.1 to 6.0. Gee, I wonder if that might have something to do with keeping the OS streamlined and leaving it alone, instead of relying on a team of 1-2 devs maintaining and updating a crappy, pointless skin...
Think you could easily do that by using a different launcher, such as Nova.
I don't like the constant bar either, but do like the swipe to Google Now page, so have kept the Google launcher. Think you can remove it with Xposed, but seemed like way too much of a hassle.
This is part of why I tend to take an "iPhone or Nexus" approach to phones. They're the only two brands where it doesn't feel like your phone OS is being hijacked by someone else.
I've had zero problems with mine so far. I'm really liking it and very happy with the way everything works so far. Didn't think going from the 1080p screen on my Note3 would be that big of a difference, but everything is noticeably clearer.
I've had a spate of random reboots when running Google Navigation, but I was running an older version of Pure Nexus (a May version). I just wiped clean and installed the latest one, hopefully it goes better.
Tried a new ROM, old fav developer = Chroma, just installed it yesterday, with Franko kernel. Also have have two really kick ass Layers on this that are perfect IMO;
Dark Stock Theme - Layers
Navigate - Layers Theme
Dark Layers is what I really wanted, just the stock AOSP style, but inverted, and still keeping the nice colorful material design intact. And Navigate allows some really cool nav bar keys, some really different stuff.
Nexus 6P 128GB.
One niggling thing though... Google has decided I need their search bar at the top of my home screen and I haven't figured out how to get rid of that yet. It's annoying me already.
Are you running Xposed and/or Franco Kernel as well? I've been having some random reboots as well, but I'm running both of those and think the app blocker (MinMinGuard) I'm running in Xposed is causing it since it seems to only reboot while using a few ad-heavy apps that I think don't like being blocked, heh. There's no paid version to remove the ads either, in case someone wants to argue about it, else I would pay to remove the ads. The reboots haven't happened often enough for me to try disabling it yet though, so I was just curious.
Its hard to recomend the 6p with zte axon 7. I hope there are some fire sales on the 6p. 300$ for a 64 or 128gb model.
Nova Launcher. Hands down. You can make it as minimal as you want and load icon packs, too.
My setup with Nova Launcher, Better Dashclock and Desaturate/Saturate Icon Pack.
Your background makes my brain hurt...
Unless like others have stated you don't want the extra layer of zte's OS, correct? I have look at it vs the 6p, and it's definitely got a lot of good stuff packed in there with less of the drawbacks that the 6p has. Google just had it on sale if you bought it from them for Google Fi, but i'm hoping they get more aggressive as people have said they're going to release their new phone soon too... since there's no sd card on the nexus phone, they really ought to sell the bigger storage versions.Its hard to recomend the 6p with zte axon 7. I hope there are some fire sales on the 6p. 300$ for a 64 or 128gb model.
Nova Launcher. Hands down. You can make it as minimal as you want and load icon packs, too.
My setup with Nova Launcher, Better Dashclock and Desaturate/Saturate Icon Pack.
How did you get your nav icons colored?
You all get Android Pay working on any Nougat ROMs while rooted? I guess Google's recent Safetynet update has made it a bit harder now. I followed this guys directions and while Snapchat works again, I still can't get it to pass this Safetynet test. It passes the first two checks, but fails "CTS profile match". Not sure if it's because of my kernel or what, going by what he said in that post. I'm running the latest PureNexus ROM now that was just posted yesterday. Not a big deal, as I don't use Android Pay much and I mainly just wanted to get Snapchat working again since the wife and I use it sometimes when we're away. But just curious if I can get it working again.
Yea i wish i'd picked one up when they were pushing them on sale.
Unlocked bootloader is now the main trigger point. Even on my stock LG G5 Android Pay no longer works because of my unlocked bootloader, even though it was working 3 days before that update to SafetyNet happened. I don't know if that will ever be able to be faked.
Some were able to get around this by using the kernel to pass the proper flag to report to SafetyNet that the bootloader was locked.
I have to say, I am still enjoying my Nexus 6P a lot. Really is a great phone. Sure I wish it had the SD820, and better display, but overall very happy with it, and no way thinking of spending $800 on the Pixel XL.
I am running this sweet ROM;
[ROM][6P][7.0.0_r14]★ Pure Nexus ★ Substratum | Fi | WiFi Calling ★[10/25/16]
Source please. Hadn't read that anywhere yet. Would love to read more about it.
Been considering side-grading from the MXPE to 6P primarily for the software updates, since I'll likely not be upgrading to a "new-generation" phone for another year or two.
It's just super frustrating that this had to be the year Pixel debuted, throwing a wrench into the whole Google lineup. Seems like the last 6P stock is being cleared out at around the same MSRP it debuted at over a year ago. As much as I want one, it's just not worth $450-500 for a 64 GB model in Oct/Nov 2016 - it's 14-18 month old tech now, for chrissakes. Any other year's Nexus would've been down 25-50% from the initial price by now, like Shamu was a year ago.
Will watch for BF deals, but I'm not too optimistic about doing this side-grade for a <$100 net loss.