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Finally over WoW, considering LOTRO

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FluxCap

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I have been playing WoW off and on since open beta. Have 2 level 70's, been doing arena and raiding Kara but I just don't have fun anymore.

I know LOTRO may not have the polish of WoW but it looks fun to me. I was in the open beta for LOTRO but only played it for 2 hours because I had to get back to my WoW raid.

I plan on giving it a really good look this time because I don't have WoW as a distraction. So, does anyone have a 10 day guest pass they would be willing to PM me?

Edit: Just got a pass from a friend at work, thanks anyway.
 
I'll be honest with you. If you are looking for a new MMO to play, skip LotRO and play EQ2.
 
I have LOTRO and WoW. I thought that LOTRO would be a better game. It is really made for folks who are obsessed with the movies and books and people with no time. I did not see anything cool in the game to be honest with you. WoW is alll magical, LOTRO is opposite of that.
 
ivan_gromov said:
I have LOTRO and WoW. I thought that LOTRO would be a better game. It is really made for folks who are obsessed with the movies and books and people with no time. I did not see anything cool in the game to be honest with you. WoW is alll magical, LOTRO is opposite of that.
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LoTRO is restricted by lore, but I wouldn't say it's for people who are obsessed with LoTR. It's more for people who appreciate a good storyline, nice graphics, and a little more realism. I agree that it's great for casual gamers, but there are raids and PvP (PvMP) for skilled players. Still, not really for people who play 12 hours a day in their parents' basement, lol. Also, keep in mind that you might not be exposed to what the game is really about just from playing a buddy key. Anything below level 15 is pretty boring and the better content seems to start around level 20-25 (i.e. The Great Barrows and Retake Weathertop).
 
ivan_gromov said:
I have LOTRO and WoW. I thought that LOTRO would be a better game. It is really made for folks who are obsessed with the movies and books and people with no time. I did not see anything cool in the game to be honest with you. WoW is alll magical, LOTRO is opposite of that.
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Agreed, Lotro sucks compared to WoW. If you are done with WoW you might as well be done with MMO's until something better comes out
 
CodeX said:
Agreed, Lotro sucks compared to WoW. If you are done with WoW you might as well be done with MMO's until something better comes out
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I disagree completely with everything you have ever said about LOTRO. You complained in an earlier thread about someone not giving WoW enough time to appreciate to "understand it". And yet...I wonder how much time you gave LOTRO before you decided that it is "supbar". I doubt very long at all.

It is true that LOTRO is on more of a realistic bent, away from the magical and mystical. Some people (like me) like it that way. Some people don't want every stupid thing to have all kinds of ridiculous magic attached to it. Some people may just want a more interesting story than what WoW provides. I'm willing to bet that there are more than you think.
 
Mark_Warner said:
I disagree completely with everything you have ever said about LOTRO. You complained in an earlier thread about someone not giving WoW enough time to appreciate to "understand it". And yet...I wonder how much time you gave LOTRO before you decided that it is "supbar". I doubt very long at all.

It is true that LOTRO is on more of a realistic bent, away from the magical and mystical. Some people (like me) like it that way. Some people don't want every stupid thing to have all kinds of ridiculous magic attached to it. Some people may just want a more interesting story than what WoW provides. I'm willing to bet that there are more than you think.
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approximately 20 hours. At 20 hours you should be level 20+ in WoW and have a fairly good grasp of the game.
 
CodeX said:
approximately 20 hours. At 20 hours you should be level 20+ in WoW and have a fairly good grasp of the game.
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That's not very much time at all. There is so much more in the way of story line in LOTRO than in WoW. You probably wouldn't even see 1/8 of it in 20 hours unless you obsessively quested as hard and fast as you could in the Epic quest line. And if you did that, you would miss a good portion of the game up to that point. There are 9 books (books 10 and 11 are due out before the end of this year) in the Epic quest line. The second book doesn't even start until level 20.

I agree that 20 hours is about what it takes to get a good grasp of WoW.
 
I think that if you are a MMORPG veteran then you need about 30 mins to an hour with either game to know exactly what is in store.
 
Finkus said:
I think that if you are a MMORPG veteran then you need about 30 mins to an hour with either game to know exactly what is in store.
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Not true at all, I know many many people who love WoW during the leveling time, but the moment they hit 60 (before BC) they hated it. They were the people who 6 level 60s or 3 level 60s and a bunch of 40-50 characters.

A MMO is completely different from a low level to upper levels. I loved lower levels, but hate higher level grinding. Then I found out I loved raiding, PvP, etc. at level 60 in WoW. Yet I can never level a character past 30 because I get tired of it.
 
theDreamer said:
Not true at all, I know many many people who love WoW during the leveling time, but the moment they hit 60 (before BC) they hated it. They were the people who 6 level 60s or 3 level 60s and a bunch of 40-50 characters.
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No, they didn't "hate" it. They hated that it was over (hence why they restarted on other characters). Everything comes to an end, including MMO's.

theDreamer said:
A MMO is completely different from a low level to upper levels. I loved lower levels, but hate higher level grinding. Then I found out I loved raiding, PvP, etc. at level 60 in WoW. Yet I can never level a character past 30 because I get tired of it.
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You obviously got one character past 30, since you said you love top level raiding and PvP. So you restart another character and can't get there again, because you are done with the game and playing it again, so you got bored. Again, people can't just except that they are at the end, which is understandable because the game is amazing and no one who plays it wants it to end.
 
I agree with the others, LOTRO really sucked compared to WOW. It was really restrictive and just honestly didnt feel like it would be to much fun to play for a while. I played the game for an hour and then pretty much boxed it up and sold it off.
 
You'll just get sucked into another game....If you have no job, girlfriend, or social skills...I say go for it!
 
CodeX said:
No, they didn't "hate" it. They hated that it was over (hence why they restarted on other characters). Everything comes to an end, including MMO's.



You obviously got one character past 30, since you said you love top level raiding and PvP. So you restart another character and can't get there again, because you are done with the game and playing it again, so you got bored. Again, people can't just except that they are at the end, which is understandable because the game is amazing and no one who plays it wants it to end.
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Actually yes they did hate it, they did not like raiding, or the end game PvP. So that is why they would stop playing there end character and start since the "end game" did not interest them.

Actually I had one level 60, and one level 49. Actually I got to 60 and did end game all the way up until the BC, I did every 40 man instance with top guilds and loved it, but hated leveling that is how I am with MMOs. Though it could just be WoW since I have leveled ~10 characters to 15, and two beyond that I do not care for it.

MMOs are different from your beginning level to the highest level, and some people love leveling, some love end game (me), and some love it all.
 
CodeX said:
No, they didn't "hate" it. They hated that it was over (hence why they restarted on other characters). Everything comes to an end, including MMO's.
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Bold statement, how do you know these people didn't hate it, personally I played WoW for about 6 months and it finally board me to tears, (it's just not my bag...) I've thus far been playing LOTOR for about 2 months and I've been enjoying it much more to this point; as pointed out before the story line is very well written and it allows you to feel like you are part of the story; I didn't get that in the least from WoW.

Everyone has different aspects they like/don't like about a given game, to make a blanket statement such as 'game x sucks' without giving any real reasoning behind it, (at lesat in this thread,) lends to the fact that it's not your cup 'o tea; that's nice, give your info to the OP and move on. Whats the point in trying to convince someone to see your opinion as fact?
 
If someone plays a character to the top level then they have completed the game. The "end game" content is there so that blizzard can keep getting their monthly pittance from you. Is it really that surprising that people become bored with a game after completing it? They have simply mistaken hating the "end game" to having finished the game... They obviously didn't hate the game overall if they put the 100+ hours into it to get to the end...

It's just like saying "I have finished all the main quests and side quests in Oblivion, it took me over 100 hours, and now I hate it". That doesn't make any sense... you have simply finished it
 
CodeX said:
It's just like saying "I have finished all the main quests and side quests in Oblivion, it took me over 100 hours, and now I hate it". That doesn't make any sense... you have simply finished it
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I would say that if a person put 100 hours into the game, and now they say they hate it, perhaps he or she hates it because he or she is tired of seeing it and never wants to see it again. There are many reasons a person might hate a game after they have finished it.

For you to make assumptions and pass judgements on other people's feelings toward a game is ridiculous and completely arrogant.
 
CodeX said:
If someone plays a character to the top level then they have completed the game. The "end game" content is there so that blizzard can keep getting their monthly pittance from you. Is it really that surprising that people become bored with a game after completing it? They have simply mistaken hating the "end game" to having finished the game... They obviously didn't hate the game overall if they put the 100+ hours into it to get to the end...

It's just like saying "I have finished all the main quests and side quests in Oblivion, it took me over 100 hours, and now I hate it". That doesn't make any sense... you have simply finished it
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Woah...that is an interesting way to look at an MMO, traditionally MMOs have no true "end." You may reach the final level, but actually is where the game reaches the next stage. Leveling is the training yourself, practice, that you use in the "end" game where you or a group of people must now conquer greater enemies.

So there is no "finishing" a MMO, it is impossible, you can not theoretically finish it all. By the time you do every single quest, get every time that you want, there is something new introduced to continue the story further.
 
Mark_Warner said:
I would say that if a person put 100 hours into the game, and now they say they hate it, perhaps he or she hates it because he or she is tired of seeing it and never wants to see it again. There are many reasons a person might hate a game after they have finished it.
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You just agreed with me. Your first paragraph is all I am saying. Nothing lasts forever, you are bound to get sick of anything after enough time.
 
Lotro is a good solid MMO with actual content.

WoW i am sorry to say grinding faction or PVP points isnt content, what is sad Blizzard has fooled everyone into thinking that it is.
 
theDreamer said:
So there is no "finishing" a MMO, it is impossible, you can not theoretically finish it all. By the time you do every single quest, get every time that you want, there is something new introduced to continue the story further.
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Exactly... there is no "official" end. But if you no longer enjoy it after getting to the highest level and spending 100 hours in the game you don't hate the game, you are simply done with it.
 
debello_64 said:
Lotro is a good solid MMO with actual content.

WoW i am sorry to say grinding faction or PVP points isnt content, what is sad Blizzard has fooled everyone into thinking that it is.
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WoW has 10 times more real content than lotro does, easily. Just in terms of landmass size and dungeons alone, not even talking about the 60,000 quests in WoW.
 
CodeX said:
WoW has 10 times more real content than lotro does, easily. Just in terms of landmass size and dungeons alone, not even talking about the 60,000 quests in WoW.
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That is easy to say, since WoW has been released for almost three solid years, plus an expansion. I would hope WoW had more to do, but many of the quest, are very similar to each other, just with another faction to get rep to get X item. LOTRO has a actual story behind the quest line that leads to something, not saying WoW does not have that, but many of the quests are just do this for me, with no background story.
 
theDreamer said:
That is easy to say, since WoW has been released for almost three solid years, plus an expansion. I would hope WoW had more to do, but many of the quest, are very similar to each other, just with another faction to get rep to get X item. LOTRO has a actual story behind the quest line that leads to something, not saying WoW does not have that, but many of the quests are just do this for me, with no background story.
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I honestly don't have enough experience with the quest lines in lotro to comment about its back story. But those of you that say the quests in WoW don't have story probably just don't bother to read it. I know many people who will pick up a quest, look it up on thottbot, go to the coordinates and finish it and hand it in without ever reading the backstory/quest description... (not targeted at you)
 
But WoW has been out a lot longer than LoTRO has though. Give it time to mature a little with an expansion or two before you say it has no content. Personally, i think LoTRO is a good casual game while WoW is a little more involving at this point in time. (I play both)
LoTRO has a lot of content it can add in the future and a good back history so just because it's not in the game atm doesn't mean it won't be added later on. Give it the same chance that WoW got before saying it sucks. Just my opinion tho.
 
I'm not really into MMO's but I really like games with indepth story lines so I might get this for giggles.
 
CodeX said:
You just agreed with me. Your first paragraph is all I am saying. Nothing lasts forever, you are bound to get sick of anything after enough time.
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No, I haven't agreed with you. I am telling you that you are not in any position to be judging anybody else's feelings toward a game.
 
Look, if you play a game for 100 hours and then say you hate it you are a hippocrite.
 
CodeX said:
Look, if you play a game for 100 hours and then say you hate it you are a hippocrite.
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If you presume to know better than other people how the feel about something, you are a presumptuous jackass.
 
CodeX said:
Look, if you play a game for 100 hours and then say you hate it you are a hippocrite.
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For a lot of people, it takes time to develop an opinion. Maybe even longer than 100 hours. You certainly don't seem to be one of those people. Is that wrong? Who knows, but I'm not going to condemn you for it. Take off your blinders and realize that everyone isn't like you. That's perfectly okay. State your opinion and move on. You aren't going to change people's opinions by posting on the internet. To think you can is a bit naive, egotistical......and comical :p
 
OKANG said:
LoTRO is restricted by lore, but I wouldn't say it's for people who are obsessed with LoTR. It's more for people who appreciate a good storyline, nice graphics, and a little more realism. I agree that it's great for casual gamers, but there are raids and PvP (PvMP) for skilled players. Still, not really for people who play 12 hours a day in their parents' basement, lol. Also, keep in mind that you might not be exposed to what the game is really about just from playing a buddy key. Anything below level 15 is pretty boring and the better content seems to start around level 20-25 (i.e. The Great Barrows and Retake Weathertop).
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Well, I actually bought the game. i got to level 7, my x850xt is not liking the game too much. I like the eye candy, and it is not letting me max it out. And it was back in the day when I ran at 1280x1024, now, with my new lcd, 1680x1050 I will have to wait until I do a system oeverhaul. :mad:
 
ivan_gromov said:
Well, I actually bought the game. i got to level 7, my x850xt is not liking the game too much. I like the eye candy, and it is not letting me max it out. And it was back in the day when I ran at 1280x1024, now, with my new lcd, 1680x1050 I will have to wait until I do a system oeverhaul. :mad:
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I can't say I'm surprised. I couldn't max out the game with my x800xl at 1280x1024. Now I have an 8600GTS and run medium to high settings at 1600x1200 without issue. Sounds like you need an 8800GTS 320 or better.
 
The concept of a persistent online world has always fascinated me, so I've experimented with nearly every type of MMO ever since the beginning of them. Through it all, there has always been one thing that I have never understood. Why do people always insist on taking proverbial sides as if this was some kind of internet war?

Every single time that an MMO discussion is brought up, people feel the need to firmly believe that the game they have chosen to play is somehow superior to all the rest, and defend that belief vehemently. If you dislike a certain game for whatever reason, then you have the right to vocalize those opinions. However doing so by simply comparing it to another MMO is completely unnecessary, and makes little sense. The game should be judged on its own merits alone, not by comparison to anything else, especially in a genre so diverse as MMOs are. What people need to understand is that the qualities which make an MMO incredible for you, someone else may potentially hate. This is why we are beginning to see such a wide variety of MMO styles, in order to suit the tastes of many different people.

This thread is a very good example of what I'm trying to convey. Just because the thread starter casually mentioned that they were no longer playing World of Warcraft, this devolved into a meaningless debate over which game is better between WoW and LOTRO. In the grand scheme of things, who really cares which you think is better. What I don't understand is why we apparently are unable to simply have a discussion about an MMO without degrading ourselves to some senseless debate over which game you think is superior. Are we becoming so sucked in to these virtual worlds that we form some frivolous emotional bond to a video game, to the point that we feel the need to constantly defend it?

I honestly hope that one day we can all open our eyes, and embrace a live and let live mentality. Play the game that you enjoy without getting caught up in some superiority complex, and let others do the same.
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Two points.

1. The very design of World of Warcraft mandates that the intended gameplay doesn't begin until you hit max level.

2. If you're looking for another game anything like WoW, you're not over it.
 
I played WOW to lvl 70 and LOTRO to lvl 50. As fare as the ride to max lvl, LOTRO is a far better game because of the story line. I am just starting with the end game content so, I can't speak for it much anymore. There are a ton of people playing LOTRO. That's why you don't see very many posts here about it>>>everyone is busy playing!
 
GreenGoose said:
I played WOW to lvl 70 and LOTRO to lvl 50. As fare as the ride to max lvl, LOTRO is a far better game because of the story line. I am just starting with the end game content so, I can't speak for it much anymore. There are a ton of people playing LOTRO. That's why you don't see very many posts here about it>>>everyone is busy playing!
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That's funny, because I lasted about 2 months on LOTRO before giving it up. I played to level 30, and had to force myself to continue after about level 12. It was B-O-R-I-N-G. And I really like the Lord of the Rings.

I played WoW for almost 2 years, had multiple toons, and had a great time.

0-max level, WoW >>>> LOTRO.
 
theDreamer said:
Actually yes they did hate it, they did not like raiding, or the end game PvP. So that is why they would stop playing there end character and start since the "end game" did not interest them.

Actually I had one level 60, and one level 49. Actually I got to 60 and did end game all the way up until the BC, I did every 40 man instance with top guilds and loved it, but hated leveling that is how I am with MMOs. Though it could just be WoW since I have leveled ~10 characters to 15, and two beyond that I do not care for it.

MMOs are different from your beginning level to the highest level, and some people love leveling, some love end game (me), and some love it all.
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Did you read the bit where I said "If you are a MMORPG veteran".

i.e. You've played lots of MMORPGs and seen lots of end-games, therefore you can extrapolate based on some gameplay and a quick browse over a FAQ and a spin on a forum or two.

WoW in particular, since of all the all the MMORPGs available it has to be the least innovative and most derivate of any of them.
 
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