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Finally decided to go W/C

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makshim

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I bought

DangerDen TDX
DangerDen Maze 4 GPU
DangerDen Black Ice Micro 2
DangerDen D5 Pump

I know I also need

Clamps
Tubing
Fans
Water additives
Resevoir or T-Line

Anything else I will need?

And what's the whole Resevoir -vs- T-Line/Fillport arguement?
 
A couple of BEEFY ass 80mm fans to keep everything cool. Seriously, BI Micros are poor performers. Anyway, besides that, depending on the size of your case, at least 5 feet of tubing. For water additives, just use some anti-freeze, no need to spend lots of money unless you want UV reactive or something. I used to have a resevoir, but receintly went T-lin and I've been pretty impressed, esp. since my case in lighter now :p
You'll want clamps for every single attachment point in your system
 
I was thinking a couple of panaflos for the radiator. What exactly is a t-line and how does it work?

I read the sticky, but don't quite get it.
 
makshim said:
And what's the whole Resevoir -vs- T-Line/Fillport arguement?
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It's personal preferrence. I'm sure you'll get both sides pleading their case, they have their advantages/disadvantages. But it's really just personal preference.
 
MadMikeSS said:
It's personal preferrence. I'm sure you'll get both sides pleading their case, they have their advantages/disadvantages. But it's really just personal preference.
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What would those advantages/disadvantages be?
 
pssstt....(bigger radiator) You've got those highflow blocks and that badboy Laing, and a leeetle radiator, why not a single 120 rad? Is space that much a consideration?
 
makshim said:
I was thinking a couple of panaflos for the radiator. What exactly is a t-line and how does it work?

I read the sticky, but don't quite get it.
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i personally think that it is easier to see it than to try and have it explained.

courtesy of DD: http://www.dangerden.com/images/Cases/wood/rwood/side off.jpg

see those two hoses going into the T fitting immediately before in intake of the pump?

you add coolant through the hose attached to the vertical(in this case) arm of the T, and air bubbles escape through the same opening while the system is in opperation.

the less restrictive, straight-through, path is how the coolant flows through the system in response to the action of the pump.

and to make a micro2 perform as well as a single BIP with a reasonable fan, you are looking at a pair of fans in the 40 db range, which is louder than most people want things.
 
Why would it take two of such fans when the Micro 2 has more surface area?

Also, is it possible to hook up a 120mm rad to a 80mm fan spot?
 
makshim said:
Why would it take two of such fans when the Micro 2 has more surface area?

Also, is it possible to hook up a 120mm rad to a 80mm fan spot?
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80 x 160 = 12800 mm^2 (micro 2)
120 x 120 = 14400 mm^2 (pro)

the black ice pro has more surface area, and it thinner, and therefore is better suited for use with real world computer case fans.

it is possible to use a fan adapter to force the air from a single 120mm fan into a single 80mm opening, however it does not perform as well as using a 120 mm rad with a 120mm fan. using two 120mm fans to force air through the two 80mm openings in a micro 2 would be very diffucult, and would require custom fabrication.

to get an actual IMPROVEMENT in performance from your XP-90, you should probably plan for a 2x120 mm rad to start with.
 
Damn me and my shoddy math! :p My case has no 120mm fan holes... I have a chieftec dragon. So is there a way I can rig up a dual or even single 120mm rad? If so I will be giving DD a call. :)
 
it's possible to make it fit in the dragon, some people around here have done it. might find examples with forum search.

i seem to remember that one person put their double rad in the front of the case, having removed drive bays........

another customary location is the top, front, area of the case, venting air out through the top surface of the case, and loosing the top few drive bays to all but uses like housing fan controllers or temperature displays.
 
I got what I am going to do :D Ghetto mod this bad boy :D I'll cancel this rad, and buy one of 2Fresh's heatercores. Then drill it onto the outside of my case. Problem solved. :)
 
Antec Super Lanboy's have 2x120mm fans in them.......they're very light and cool well, and have come down in price. 1st gen Sonata's have a natural place in back for a single 120 rad. Even better a lianLi v1000. Nothing at all against 2Fresh's nice hardware, seems more practical to get a more compatible case at this point.... one that will fit one of his singles cleanly after you cancel the micro..... :D
 
makshim said:
I got what I am going to do :D Ghetto mod this bad boy :D I'll cancel this rad, and buy one of 2Fresh's heatercores. Then drill it onto the outside of my case. Problem solved. :)
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That's similar to what I did...
 
I'm sure a nice 120 or 240 will fit in the bottom of your case. You can either mount it so it sucks air through the bottom or sit it on it's side, but in that position you will have to have a good case ventilation to get rid of the extra heat.
 
makshim said:
Front fan holes are 80mm too :( And the top of my case has no holes...
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that's what tin snips and files and/or dremel tools are for: making new holes and widening existing ones.

however, you can make what you propose work pretty easily. a few right angle brackets, holes drilled into the back of the case, nuts, bolts, and the retention hardware that 2fresh sells should get you set up, with the rad in a place that is normally out of sight.

i am adding a second double rad in that very way to my lian-li 6077 case.
 
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