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ziz54

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im gonna order tomorrow, any final advice/last minute changes ?

cpu : q9550
mobo : P5Q-E or DLX (most likely E)
gpu: Sapphire HD 4870 1 gb
Hdd: 640 GB WD BLUE (black not availabe in my country, so what are the fastest blue hdds ?)
ram: 4 GB (2x2)
sound card: m-audio 2496
Optical: LG dvd/cd combo read/write
OS: Vista 32 Bit Home Premium SP1
Case: Antec 300 orr CM 590 (depending whats available here ... )
PSU: EA650 or 650 HX (depending whats available here ... )
Monitor: VX2260m

...my activities are more music-oriented and bit gaming , and heavy mulitasking ... and i will not be OCing

...o what do you think ? and how many years it will live and be up to date ?
 
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1. 640 Blue/AAKS is just fine anf ast.
2. We don't know where you live.
3. Sound card really needed?
4. 4GB of ram but 32bit OS?
5. It'll last a millennium for music playback. Don't know what you want to know about how long it'll last for. Games, it'll be outdated by the end of the year.
 
You are better off getting i7 rig... 775 is basically on life support at this stage of it life.
 
lowteckh said:
1. 640 Blue/AAKS is just fine anf ast.
2. We don't know where you live.
3. Sound card really needed?
4. 4GB of ram but 32bit OS?
5. It'll last a millennium for music playback. Don't know what you want to know about how long it'll last for. Games, it'll be outdated by the end of the year.
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1. black isnt available in UAE (middle east)
2. yes i need sound card because ill be buying first time someting other than onboard with first time a good headphone and first time senheiser HD215 and first time good speakers ...
4. 32 bit is maxed at 4 b as i know and i dont want driver issue on 64bit
5. i want to kow in genereal how long it will last .. you know medium gaming, video encoding, movies ... but i dont understand why it will be outdated for game by end of te year :O
 
1. You already said Black isn't available. I said Blue is just fine and fast.
4. Then you should know 32bit is maxed at 3GB or 3.5GB depending. The whole world is switching to 64bit these days and driver issues of the past are nothing but the past (turned sour thx to XP 64bit)
5. What is "medium gaming". The whole topic of wanting to know how long a system will last is just a pretty bad question. Movies, until they release something higher than 1080p then it'll last indefinitely, video encoding, well if you want instant encodes then your system will become obsolete when it's possible for instant encodes. Why it'll be outdated by the end of the year for gaming? Cuz' it's highly unlikely you'll be able to play the newest games at highest settings by then. Hell, you won't be able to play the newest games right now at max settings (ARMA2).
 
HardwareGuru said:
Wait dude, what's your budget on this build?
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budget can be pretty flexible as longs as every single part for pc including monitors , speakers an headphone , mouses ....etc everything doesn't exceed 1600max usd... and im not planning for an i7 because thing is just out and i would want to wait for other I series .. im sure next 2-3 years when windows 7 is out and next gen gpu and hardware becomes available , prices will go down and we will find out more ... im not the kind who really updates constantly ... imm now on a p4 system with 2 gb ram with a lame intel mobo and x1300 gpu .. so my thing is about what ? 5 - 6 years ?.. i donot OC nor want o learn ... may be just read general info because i know it can become addictive
 
lowteckh said:
1. You already said Black isn't available. I said Blue is just fine and fast.
4. Then you should know 32bit is maxed at 3GB or 3.5GB depending. The whole world is switching to 64bit these days and driver issues of the past are nothing but the past (turned sour thx to XP 64bit)
5. What is "medium gaming". The whole topic of wanting to know how long a system will last is just a pretty bad question. Movies, until they release something higher than 1080p then it'll last indefinitely, video encoding, well if you want instant encodes then your system will become obsolete when it's possible for instant encodes. Why it'll be outdated by the end of the year for gaming? Cuz' it's highly unlikely you'll be able to play the newest games at highest settings by then. Hell, you won't be able to play the newest games right now at max settings (ARMA2).
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Im not that lets say enthusiast besides what does really require maxing out ARMA2 ... but anyways ... and i do not game THAT much .. may be crysis, cod, the new splinter cell , AC2 ..fps and third person .. thats all i do really gaming wise... as longs as i dont see constant, heavy solwing down and acceptable image quality im fine .... and if any question asked about why quad ? basically video encoding ... really affects it ... they utilize the cores and Nero burning .. tired of waiting hours fo a DVD to be encoded then burned ... hobby photoshoping .... that stuff ..but music im definitely sure its a good/nice set-up, im a DJ and need to have some nice quality .. so not just play back .. if so i would've gone on on board


and a question of the top of my head ... aer you guys sure i wont need aftermarket coolers/heatsinks for cpu or gpu .. all told me if you dont oc then there is really no need and im afraid ofteh HD4870 or cu goin hot or someting .... i can splash some cash for a cheap AC 7 freezer but "if i dont have, then i dont need"
 
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ziz54 said:
Im not that lets say enthusiast besides what does really require maxing out ARMA2 ... but anyways ... and i do not game THAT much .. may be crysis, cod, the new splinter cell , AC2 ..fps and third person .. thats all i do really gaming wise... as longs as i dont see constant, heavy solwing down and acceptable image quality im fine .... and if any question asked about why quad ? basically video encoding ... really affects it ... they utilize the cores and Nero burning .. tired of waiting hours fo a DVD to be encoded then burned ... hobby photoshoping .... that stuff ..but music im definitely sure its a good/nice set-up, im a DJ and need to have some nice quality .. so not just play back .. if so i would've gone on on board
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For your games then the 4870 will last as long as you play them, it's not like system requirements change for current games. But your question of how long your system will last for gaming goes beyond current games and frankly is something that can't be answered cuz' we don't know what else you'll want to play in the future, nor do we know what the system requirements for future games will be. Let's just put it at that, the 4870 will last as long as you're able to keep turning down settings to match future games' requirements. Besides, swapping out video cards is much less work than rebuilding a whole system if you decide the 4870, whenever that is, isn't enough for you.

And to your other question, no you will not need any aftermarket stuff, so stick with the "don't need it don't buy it" mantra.
 
lowteckh said:
. Besides, swapping out video cards is much less work than rebuilding a whole system if you decide the 4870, whenever that is, isn't enough for you.
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that is exactly what im thinking of, no like an idiot i kept waiting for gpu and stuff and kept saying oh its running fine until my who system wont be compatible when/if i wanted to upgrade ... so when i do this one im sure a 300-400$ upgrade in 2 years wont be a hassle ... and about future requirements ... vista was criticized that it needed updated stuff so windows 7 i pretty much the same as vista so i think ill be fine with famous FPS's an third person's ... Lets just hope programs i want will work on vista ...
 
You can use Windows 7 RC right now btw.

As Shiro asked, why not i7? 32nm Gulftown CPUs *may* work (since it'll use X58) with current X58 mobos, so at least that's not a dead end. Also, with i5 coming out and pricing to start at less than i7, couldn't you just wait til mid Summer/end of Summer? You're wanting your system to last, but yet you're jumping into a dead-end platform...
 
if this would last 3 years im greatful .... then we will talk tech and new stuff .. :p
and y i want to upgrade now .. psu is bent and crashed , no boots , mobo is in a horrible condition and overall teh thing is useless now with 80 gb only hd .. so it is time i think


n case i changed my mind t go for an i7 biuld wich is extremely unlikely how do

i7 920
6 gb ocz platinum
p6t deluxe v2 sound
??
 
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That's fine, but you could "downgrade" the motherboard to the P6T or the P6T SE if either of those boards are available. A gaming machine benefits more from a good video card than it does from a fast processor, so building something around the Core i7 isn't a requirement. Go with the AMD Phenom II, as it performs about as well as the Core 2 platform but has just been released recently.

Any game or program that's been released within the last year or two will work on Vista. So far, I haven't heard of many mainstream games or programs that wouldn't work with the Windows 7 RC. Given that the final retail versions of Windows 7 are to be released in October of this year, it would be better (if not cheaper) for you to go with the Windows 7 RC for now and pick up a retail copy when it becomes available.
 
I agree that i7 is the way to go if you have that high of a price range.

What you have posted will last you a while, especially if you are only looking for 3 yrs out of it.
 
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