GF100 will be NVIDIA's hottest GPU ever, with TDP in excess of 200W (RV870's TDP is 188W)...
http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/17356/1/
http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/17356/1/
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Fermi to be the hottest single chip ever
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Breath_of_the_Dying
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Not really a big suprise. I wonder how this will affect SLI'ing two of them
Lol, no, not at all. Either some of you are noobs and only saw this less than stellar release or are very forgetful. For instance, the FX5800 was staggeringly worse. The HD 2900 XT wasn't a bad card, it just wasn't great. It couldn't compete with the 8800GTX and Ultra in high resolution gaming, but, for instance, it was the king of benchmarking. It was a new architecture and AMD was testing it's strengths and weaknesses.
Anyway, history lesson over, Fermi sure as hell seems like it. Considering two 6 pins give you 225W and NVIDIA went with the 6-pin/8-pin configuration, I'm going to guess we're looking at least at GTX280 levels, and probably higher.
yes the GeForce FX 5800 Ultra was the ultimate power hog
not true...if Fermi is only slightly faster then a 5870 then it will matter as people will stick with ATI...if it's a lot faster then people won't care as much...heat/power consumption are big issues for a lot of people and ATI is gonna hammer this point in the next few months
IMO if your dealing with enthusiast level cards then you should have already accounted for power / heat and made the proper arrangements.
The price vs heat vs power etc. comparison will be true to some on here but most of the time people just want the biggest stick.
You would think they would, but AMD's marketing has been "meh" at best. Here's a golden opportunity for them. Personally, considering my setup, Fermi's power consumption/heat output is enough for me to pass it by.
Lorien
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Oh how wrong you are. The way most people get started down the road of enthusiast level hardware is by upgrading their store bought brand name pre-assembled PC's. Ours is a very small niche compared to the mainstream market that brings the actual bulk of earnings for add-in board vendors like Nvidia and AMD(ATI).
I'm not even talking about how people upgrade???.....I'm just saying people need to be educated on their purchase and to expect any trade-offs. Yes most don't know and we see post dealing with "Can my Dell psu handle this bah bah bah".
We can only hope NVIDIA has not.
Why are you arguing over the piece of unreleased hardware?
Because someone post some wild ass guess on the next gen hardware and we spend four plus pages beating the hell out of it. Soap box on Friday what can I say.
LeninGHOLA
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I'll believe it when I see it. I *think* it might be a warm card, but we don't even know what clockspeed these cards will be released at.
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200 watts TDP is unbelievable.
Pics at CES showed using 8 +6pin.... http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1175/1/
Hahaha... come on guy. By that rationale, nVidia is just testing Fermi's strengths and weaknesses.
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How are we supposed to overclock this thing, much less cool it down when overclocked
I mean if TDP is that sky high, tri slot coolers
My 4870x2's each have a TDP of about 270w and I'm running them both using the stock dual-slot coolers and overclocking on them. 200w TDP Fermi should not be that big of a deal really.
And they will be. And if it so happens that it doesn't compare so well to the 5870 it doesn't mean it is "one of the greatest failures ever made" either. There are plenty of other examples of that, the phrase was used incorrectly there.
Just having some good natured fun...lol. Yeah, they will attempt to verify their design goals: did they miss or hit a home run or somewhere in between.
4870x2s are crap oc'ers generally. I had one and it barely went over 810 on stock and 820 with accelero 4870x2 installed so Im guessing you just maxxed the CCC to 800 core, right.
Nice overclock on your Q9650 btw. Is that 24/7 and what OS are you using?
And post bios settings?
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NVIDIA seems to lack efficiency in their designs or something. All they ever seem to do is make their video cards get hotter and hotter as they get faster and "better." Sooner or later they're going to have to do something about this.
Perhaps my logic here isn't absolutely correct (but partly in some senses). Hmm.
All they ever seem to do is make their video cards get hotter and hotter as they get faster and "better." Sooner or later they're going to have to do something about this.Perhaps my logic here isn't absolutely correct (but partly in some senses). Hmm.
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Water cooled editions. I get the feeling we are going to see a lot more of them than we normally do. And I don't really consider that a bad thing. I would love for there to be more factory installed water blocks on vid cards. It will bring competition to a market that sorely needs it. (A $400 vid card with a $50 water block tossed on it does not make a $600 product imho.)
Hopefully GT100 doesn't really need any/much overclocking, though I'll admit I'm not really that optimistic at this point
Actually, NVIDIA does really well with respect to performance/watt (or at least they have historically). There are the obvious exceptions like the FX series, but for the most part, they've done pretty well in this area.
seems like Nvidia has sold their soul to the devil to make Fermi better then ATI's 5000 series...performance at all cost, even if it means reaching critical mass in terms of heat and and power...they need Fermi to succeed at all costs
trust me once Fermi is out, 6 months down the line the real Fermi will be released with much lower TDP, heat output and power requirements...Intel, AMD, Nvidia etc have all been talking about power output being a major focus of future products...look at the upcoming specs for Sandy Bridge or Istanbul...it's all about the low TDP
the Fermi release in March is not what Nvidia wants to release...it's what they feel they have to put out to compete with ATI...all the early adopters are gonna get burned (literally) when Nvidia releases their Fermi refresh 6 months down the road
trust me once Fermi is out, 6 months down the line the real Fermi will be released with much lower TDP, heat output and power requirements...Intel, AMD, Nvidia etc have all been talking about power output being a major focus of future products...look at the upcoming specs for Sandy Bridge or Istanbul...it's all about the low TDP
the Fermi release in March is not what Nvidia wants to release...it's what they feel they have to put out to compete with ATI...all the early adopters are gonna get burned (literally) when Nvidia releases their Fermi refresh 6 months down the road
The early adopters getting burned for buying early? Here's a news flash, anyone buying a graphics card understands that there is always something better around the corner.
Gorankar
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True, but we can make a semi-educated guess that Fermi is going to be hot and consume a great deal of power due to it's size, and Nv's goal of crushing the 5870/5890. Nv is going to volt it up, and clock it up as high as possible to accomplish that imho.
Most full cover blocks for new cards are $100-$150, not $50. And you're paying for them to install the block and warranty it as well, so they're naturally going to mark it up over what you'd pay just buying the card and block separately.
Not trying to flame, but are you really comparing a dual gpu card to a single gpu card?
The day everything goes watercooling(without noob kits like the Corsair h50) is the day I stop gaming on my pc. Fuck that noise, that's just too much hassle for my tastes. I'm too paranoid over a leak....
Its funny cuz it can be interpreted both ways. You can't compare a dual card but then at the same time an 8 + 6 pin and all the hardware specs put this Fermi tdp very close to a dual AMD card.
disclaimer: Nobody knows final power draw but you can put 2 and 2 together to get a ballpark. And its in that dual card ballpark.
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Heat ill give someone, but power consumption?...pfft buzzwords for forum trolls. Nobody buys a high end card based on power consumption.
And you think the two are separate? lol.
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Yo ATI, Im really happy for you and imma let you finish, but NVIDIA's Fermi is the greatest GPU of all time!