As the thread title says:
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1739596
and
http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=23434
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1739596
and
http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=23434
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