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Eyefinity Update

Nice setup. Now I know what you got yourself for your Bday. :D

I've had the chance to see eyefinity in action recently, I gotta say I'm not "that" impressed, I prefer a large screen than multimonitor for gaming. The upcoming ultra wide screen monitors may be the ticket for me.
 
do you think it's easier to play the games on portrait mode over landscape?
 
Insula Gilliganis said:
HAPPY Belated 42nd birthday Kyle!! Guess I know what present you got along with your birthday cake!!

Hope you stay [H]ard for at least another 42 years when, in 2051 through a USB 10.0 cable stuck in my brain, I will be "viewing" the latest ATI portable holodeck emitter setup you just installed in your mansion!!
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Thanks bro, I actually got a new shotgun for my birthday. You can see it here in the Off Topic section of the forum. :)

And I still live in the same house that I bought before HardOCP was a job. :) How else can we afford all the screens?!?!?! ;)

Bigbacon said:
do you think it's easier to play the games on portrait mode over landscape?
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I am not sure it is "easier," but I think I am liking it better as it does a bunch better job of filling in your field of view completely.
 
CarrellK said:
I believe Kyle has some posts elsewhere on this topic, but prolly won't mind if I comment in this thread.....
CarrellK
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Hey, if you're still watching this thread, I've got a question. I know jack about whether or not it's even remotely feasible, but are there any plans now, or could there be in the future to help over-ride default FOV settings in games for eyefinity setups? While many games allow you to change the value, a lot don't, and in really wide setups it's a huge detractor (for me at least) from multi-screen gaming.
 
ShiShKaBoB said:
I have wanted to ask, how does that setup look with the pixle/bezel issue if you overlap the right and left panels bezels over(front) the center panels bezels? It seems like it would sync up better, no?
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This has already been hit on in this thread, but I will take the time to answer again.

In landscape we did that and it worked fine to shrink the bezel real estate. In portrait mode the depth change threw the look off too much.
 
I bought my MSI 5870 and got it in my case (after an hour of removing RAID HDD mounts) and I love it. Now all I need is an all in one 3 display monitor with minimal breaks between the monitors.
 
Sorry ^^ , I have no excuse, was in a rush, won't happen again.

Not a problem bro, there is a LOT of thread here to read, just wanted to let you know that it was not something we blew off when evaluating the setup as it was important to me too. - Kyle
 
Totally excellent.

I just got my 5870 running and have two Dell 24" monitors at present, a 2408 and a 2405.
Soon to add a third.

I have ben VERY impressed with the performance of the 5870. It has literally wiped the floor compared to my SLi GTX 285s.
I didn't think much of the 4870 X2s I had. I think it was just me, but so far the support for the 5800 series seems to be at a much higher level.........no driver related issues and the card just flat out works.
I have another coming, I hope EyeFinity will be available on CrossfireX soon.:D
 
Jealous.

I will be getting an eyefinity card, but it will take me a while to round up enough monitors to actually test it, and I certainly won't be able to afford it for myself. But never the less, this is a good step forward for gaming. Yes, the technology is not new. Yes, there are still issues that need to be addressed, but this is something that has the potential to change the gaming experience for a lot of people.

Personally, I'd like to see a double monitor setup to put this technology in more people's hands. It may not have the shock factor, but the reduced cost would make it more attractive to the casual gamers out there. Yeah, it would probably be around the same number of pixels as a 30" display, but it could be done much cheaper for a similar experience.

And I commend you Kyle for going with the portrait setup. It just makes more sense to me. You mentioned photoshop in this environment.... *drools*
 
How do media players handle video with this setup? Will a fullscreen span all the monitors?
 
There is no doubt that anyone saying this is crap is nothing but jealous. I, myself am just wondering about performance, I have 3 GTX 280's in Tri Sli and some games dont run at 50+ fps simply because of Video memory. Going even bigger res like 3 in Portrait (which btw is definitely the sweet spot).

I also wonder what the advantage of having the extra pixels of 38XX x 1920 vs 2560X1600 would be and I know I have had dualview in the past and didn't like it but never played a game spanning more than one screen.

So It will really be dependant I think for stores to get a sample running! Then people can decide what they want!
 
Smash2K said:
So...lemme get this straight. You have a massive overall resolution...but you have several black plastic gaps between the monitors...

This is trash that will (hopefully) be replaced with proper technology before long. Who would honestly waste their money on this?
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So do you get this pissy when you look out the windows of your vehicle and those A, B ands C pillars block your view? :rolleyes:
 
I like the idea, but I would prefer to angle the side monitors so they cover my peripheral vision better. It would be great if the software could account for the angle (say options for 30 and 45 degrees). Add this to 3D Vision (or ATI's inevitable version) and it would be very immersive indeed.

I wouldn't mind the bezels for some things, such as a car windshield or a cockpit for a jet or a 'mech.
 
Ok, I'm curious about something. I know some peoples heads will catch on fire when I ask this, but... yeah, here goes.

How does WoW look on this with the monitors in portrait mode? I realize some people are not fond of WoW or its graphics. However, I play WoW and when I finally upgrade, this is a consideration for me. Does it work or does it have the same problems Steam had in Kyle's video? Any one have any pictures of Eyefinity and WoW? I'm just trying to imagine someone running a huge custom UI for WoW in Eyefinity and what it would look like. Personally, I'd love to move information on my raid to the left monitor, a HUD (e.g. IceHUD) on the center monitor and other information onto the right monitor. Seems like it would be awesome to me.
 
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I was thinking about getting into this but after thinking some more. I'd rather buy a 32-37in lcd/plasma tv as a second display device in my system. If a person already has 3 monitors they can use then my idea wouldn't be all that practical.

What are your thoughts Kyle, Steve, [H], on using something like this compared to just buying a bigger screen? Does the bigger pixel size really make a difference in quality compared to the ultra high resolution your setup is using? Would the performance benefit be a factor?
 
So im a bit unclear as to one thing about Eyefinity: Does it work on all games? For example, if I wanted to load up Doom 3 or SC: Pandora Tomorrow or I dunno, some game that came out before this year will I get the awesome results as seem from the pics? Or will it look really stretched? I am just seeing if its something thats only implemented in new games or if they found a way to implement it in all games.
 
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i currently have two 8800 series cards driving 4 24" displays, i was wondering how the
Eyefinity configurations would handle something similar to this setup. could you
achieve two Eyefinity display groups or would you just have individual displays
as they appear in Win7 now?
 
darkfell said:
i currently have two 8800 series cards driving 4 24" displays, i was wondering how the
Eyefinity configurations would handle something similar to this setup. could you
achieve two Eyefinity display groups or would you just have individual displays
as they appear in Win7 now?
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Current cards will only push three displays. Coming card will push six.

You can only have one display group currently, but you can have extended monitors with a display group.
 
DangerIsGo said:
So im a bit unclear as to one thing about Eyefinity: Does it work on all games? For example, if I wanted to load up Doom 3 or SC: Pandora Tomorrow or I dunno, some game that came out before this year will I get the awesome results as seem from the pics? Or will it look really stretched? I am just seeing if its something thats only implemented in new games or if they found a way to implement it in all games.
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Certainly it is not going to work for all games, but recent games seem to work fairly easily.

I loaded up Quake III for funsies. Below are full size screen shots and some pictures....they are JPEGs, so they are compressed for size. But I think you will get your answer. Obviously the textures were never meant to be viewed at those resolutions.

I used these commands to force the rez.
r_mode -1
r_customwidth 3600
r_customheight 1920

then

vid_restart

At times the menu would totally corrupt, but a quick vid_restart from console would fix it.

1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5
 
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totally OFF topic:

LOL @ Insula Gilliganis

I've always wondered when the "Kyle the babyfaced tech nerd" clone was killed and the evil "Kyle Harley-type hardbody" clone assumed his place :D
 
qdemn7 said:
So do you get this pissy when you look out the windows of your vehicle and those A, B ands C pillars block your view? :rolleyes:
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Oh, do you have pillars cutting your windshield (where you spend 99% of your vision time) into 3 pieces? I'm pretty sure you wouldn't buy a car that had a windshield like that.

:rolleyes:


Yes, I've done multi-monitor gaming. Yes, I notice the bezel between monitors at ALL times. It annoyed me so much that I went back to single monitor gaming. Added features are always nice and I think that Eyefinity adds value to the 5xxx series. The hype is completely ridiculous though. Especially when you consider that it's been do-able with other software for quite a while.
 
Bankie said:
Yes, I've done multi-monitor gaming. Yes, I notice the bezel between monitors at ALL times. It annoyed me so much that I went back to single monitor gaming. Added features are always nice and I think that Eyefinity adds value to the 5xxx series. The hype is completely ridiculous though. Especially when you consider that it's been do-able with other software for quite a while.
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Your thoughts are noted. You do not need to post in this thread again to make them known. This thread is for those interested, those not interested, please go elsewhere.
 
Hey Kyle, the links for pics 4 and 5 do not work but im most definitely liking what I see in the first three :)

links fixed - Kyle
 
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Just bought 2 used 2405s to go with my current 1...now waiting on the DP to DVI converter =\
 
what's going to suck... is if the special eyefinity monitors from samsung are $1000 for the 3x1 setup

sure they come with mounting hardware and thin bezels / but is that worth the extra $300-$400?

with something like the dell p2310h costing roughly $200 [or $600+ for 3]
 
ontariotl said:
I thought Nvidia locked ATI users out of PhysX as well, but recently the forums are saying a hack came out to disable the block with recent drivers. So far it looks like it works.
I only wanted to try my 8800GTX in PhysX for Batman:AA and see what its all aboot. The rest of the PhsyX enabled games don't appeal to me. Besides, that slot is reserved for another 5870 once CF for EF is fixed.

If you have time, you should do another short video to show the Dell DP active adapter working to alleviate some fears about having to go out and buy one of the short list of DP monitors (which some are quite expensive). So far I see the argument or constant question still goes on about the active and passive adapters with which one works.
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We shouldn't have to hack the drivers to get it to work...

But good lord I wish I had money right now...would love a 5870 and Eyefinity. Maybe when the 5890 hits...
 
Why not just get a projector like this for $650? http://www.staples.com/Epson-EX70-LCD-Digital-Projector/product-nr_749881?cmArea=SEARCH

1280x800 so it does widescreen and 720p HD. Screens of 120" in the dark and 55" during daylight is pretty immersive for games and movies. Otherwise you can just use a cheap LCD monitor for all other computing tasks.

The pixel count is not crazy high so you can run games on older graphics hardware.

All you need is a wall, the projector and some space between them. no bezels either!
 
El Barto said:
Why not just get a projector like this for $650? http://www.staples.com/Epson-EX70-LCD-Digital-Projector/product-nr_749881?cmArea=SEARCH

1280x800 so it does widescreen and 720p HD. Screens of 120" in the dark and 55" during daylight is pretty immersive for games and movies. Otherwise you can just use a cheap LCD monitor for all other computing tasks.

The pixel count is not crazy high so you can run games on older graphics hardware.

All you need is a wall, the projector and some space between them. no bezels either!
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If you only want to see 1280 pixels wide then that is fine. Get three of them and see 3840 pixels wide. :)
 
i really like eyefinity setups, but i can't get over this thing with the adapters. why didn't they just put 3 hdmi ports and one dvi (with dvi to display port adapter if it is needed)? seems like the majority of new monitors are hdmi and not display port enabled anyway. just seems weird to not have 3 of the same ports on these cards when they are suppose to be designed for 3 monitor useage. adapters suck...
 
El Barto said:
Why not just get a projector like this for $650? http://www.staples.com/Epson-EX70-LCD-Digital-Projector/product-nr_749881?cmArea=SEARCH

1280x800 so it does widescreen and 720p HD. Screens of 120" in the dark and 55" during daylight is pretty immersive for games and movies. Otherwise you can just use a cheap LCD monitor for all other computing tasks.

The pixel count is not crazy high so you can run games on older graphics hardware.

All you need is a wall, the projector and some space between them. no bezels either!
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Curious about the life of a lamp in a projector running at extended periods?
 
Not a great idea as a primary monitor, but for gaming they should last just as long as in normal usage. I think a cheap LCD monitor and 3x projectors would be the ultimate eyefinity setup. When high power LED projectors become more common they may be good for use as a primary monitor as well.
 
I think eyefinity would be much better if the users can config the bezels to be something that block your view, just like the frames of the windows blocking your view, instead of seperating two unblocked views. It would be much more natural.
 
I tried the Eyefinity last night with two 24 " Dells in landscape.

I don't have three............yet.

It was awesome and the software worked flawlessly, once I figured out what I had to do.
It doesn't work as well as three would, I suspect. The bezel in the smack-dab middle of the frame was too distracting for me to enjoy playing.

I AM sold that once I get another monitor I will be gaming this way. The size of the visual field and the framerate of the game is unbelievable from a single card.
I can't wait to see ATI implement Crossfire in this setting.:D
 
on the topic of projectors

i have a sanyo z60 which is a lower end 720p part [lower end being $800]

movies and hdtv and rockband from my 360 - yes...

but for pc gaming... not so much no... especially at 1280x720

that being said... 1080p projectors are much better suited for pc gaming, yet that comes at a cost

you're talking $1500 for a decent 1080p projector... and then 2 of those? over $3k just in your display department... not factoring in the size of screen youd have to fabricate or heaven forbid try to purchase...

in the end... projectors just arent impressive enough in the lower price segment - 3 'cheap' projectors is going to be a significant investment... and you are not going to be impressive in anyway with the quality of the image
 
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