erek
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What's up with these absurd prices?
These were not as rare as you think. My friend had one of these.
And ISA ? Who has one of those these days? The newest board that I can recall that supported ISA was the Abit BH6, with the best model being the rev 1.1 / 1.2 versions, that had the 1/4 divider for 33 mhz PCI at 133 mhz FSB, as well as the Socket 370 version. And even these boards got flamed for having more than one ISA slot. I think they came with 2, so you could plug in your Soundblaster 16 and Roland SCC-1 Sound Canvas, or similar wavetable music synth board. Plus there was the common problem of Windows 2000 not supporting direct access to hardware so you couldn't access your cards without a special driver.
It's probably rare now. most people probably toss away older hardware when they are clearing out some clutter. I know I tossed some decent old hardware away which I now wish I would have kept since they are worth decent money to people who are building retro PC's.
I'm aware of that but why would someone pay $350 for a worthless piece of hardware?
If it's to play old games, well, DOSBOX can do that better than any old computer would. My 486 DX2-66 ran everything ok from 1989-1994 (until Strike Commander ruined everything), and it had the "8 mhz" turbo disable switch so that games like Ultima 6 ran properly with PC speaker bleep sounds at the right pitch, but the first Pentiums were just hot trash, and the first decent Pentium, the 166 MMX (I forgot but I think certain SKU's were the one that were overclockable to 262.5 mhz with the 83 mhz onboard FSB jumper) was the first true "overclocking screamer". But you already had problems getting some older DOS games to run at the right speeds, and while AT-Slow 3.0 actually worked great and didn't have "Video draw" issues (some newer programs, like myslow, and that one Russian slowdown program and others, would cause issues like slow draw speeds), but AT-slow didn't work well on anything faster than the 166 MMX. Anyway I'm ranting.
I'm aware of that but why would someone pay $350 for a worthless piece of hardware?
If it's to play old games, well, DOSBOX can do that better than any old computer would. My 486 DX2-66 ran everything ok from 1989-1994 (until Strike Commander ruined everything), and it had the "8 mhz" turbo disable switch so that games like Ultima 6 ran properly with PC speaker bleep sounds at the right pitch, but the first Pentiums were just hot trash, and the first decent Pentium, the 166 MMX (I forgot but I think certain SKU's were the one that were overclockable to 262.5 mhz with the 83 mhz onboard FSB jumper) was the first true "overclocking screamer". But you already had problems getting some older DOS games to run at the right speeds, and while AT-Slow 3.0 actually worked great and didn't have "Video draw" issues (some newer programs, like myslow, and that one Russian slowdown program and others, would cause issues like slow draw speeds), but AT-slow didn't work well on anything faster than the 166 MMX. Anyway I'm ranting.
My barn collapsed a few winters ago, I lost a bunch of vintage stuff, including a Roland LAPC-I and a Sound Canvas SCB-55 daughterboard for Soundblasters. I also had the cassette tape that showed you the difference between the Roland, Soundblaster/Adlib and pc speaker, I think it used one of the King's Quests as an example. Oh and my full Thrustmaster setup I used for Falcon and Mechwarrior.
So much fun back in the day!
My barn collapsed a few winters ago, I lost a bunch of vintage stuff, including a Roland LAPC-I and a Sound Canvas SCB-55 daughterboard for Soundblasters. I also had the cassette tape that showed you the difference between the Roland, Soundblaster/Adlib and pc speaker, I think it used one of the King's Quests as an example. Oh and my full Thrustmaster setup I used for Falcon and Mechwarrior.
So much fun back in the day!
I had my Roland SCC-1 until two years ago.
Threw it in the bin along with my two Canopus Pure 3d2's. System didn't POST anyway and I never used it anymore. It just wasn't worth the hassle to deal with trying to fix it or messing with it, when I could just get most of the stuff running with DOSBOX.
Nice you had a LAPC-1. Never knew anyone who had that. My friend had a RAP-10, which was basically a SCC-1 with some sort of onboard audio DSP, which barely worked in anything.
The SC-55 daughterboard.. I had that too. Epic waste of hot trash money. The CARD Was fine but no one knew this at the time, but certain revisions of Creative's soundblaster 16 DSP caused hanging notes problems when used with daugherboards. This information wasn't available easily way back then. And you couldn't fix it anyway.
My barn collapsed a few winters ago, I lost a bunch of vintage stuff, including a Roland LAPC-I and a Sound Canvas SCB-55 daughterboard for Soundblasters. I also had the cassette tape that showed you the difference between the Roland, Soundblaster/Adlib and pc speaker, I think it used one of the King's Quests as an example. Oh and my full Thrustmaster setup I used for Falcon and Mechwarrior.
So much fun back in the day!
AGGGHHHHH.. That poor hardware.
Hanging note bug sucks.. but pair a daughterboard with a card without the hanging note bug (certain Creative and all non-Creative cards) and you are set.
I recently acquired a Roland LAPC-I along with the external box in a trade for some other retro hardware.
I almost bought a Roland SC-88 Super Sound Canvas. I was crazy about sound. Too crazy.
Would a SC-88 even be able to be used with a modern system now?
Yeah, as long as you have a midi port on your computer.
SC-88 is general midi so it will work with anything that supports MIDI.
Some games that were made with the SC-55 in mind supposedly don't sound quite right on the SC-88 but I haven't actually tested that out myself.
My external Roland modules:
MT-32 (old - rev 2)
MT-100 (MT-32 new with sequencer)
MT-120
MT-200 (SC-55 with sequencer)
MT-300s (In between SC-55 and SC-88 with sequencer and stereo speakers)
SC-7
SC-88VL