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Extreme Edition?

GaleForce

GaleForce

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My dad is buying himself a new computer and wants to know the difference between the 3.6 P4 and the 3.4 EE. Being an AMD user myself I couldn't really answer the question because I don't know anything about Intel processors anymore. Is EE actually offering you something noticable or is it a marketing ploy? Thanks.
 
The 3.4 EE is the fastest processor intel sells, faster than the 3.6 by a fair margin, but it is stupidly expensive. You can buy an FX-53 AND a motherboard to put it on for the price of a 3.4EE processor alone. :eek:
 
Well he is hoping to take advantage of Dell's 30% off thing, not that it really matters. The processor adds another 400 bucks or so to the price. Where can I find a comparison between the two processors?
 
The difference is in the cache size... the regular P4c (Northwood) has 512kb of L2 cache, the P4e (Prescott) has 1mb L2 cache (but a longer pipeline, so performance is on par with the P4c's). In contrast, the EE's are like P4c's with 4 times the cache - 2mb. A 3.4EE would probably feel like a 4GHz P4c - crazy fast. However, it makes no sense to buy this processor - it's at a ridiculous price point. A 3.4GHz processor (or the AMD Athlon64 equivalent) will still be extremely fast, just not quite as fast as the EE. But, in 6 months there will be bigger and better for 1/4 the price, so just upgrade then and "save a buck or two". Anyway, I hope that helps your dad make his decision.

-SEAL
 
Your dad probably doesn't need the EE. Tell him to save the $400 and spend it on you.
 
ameoba said:
Your dad probably doesn't need the EE. Tell him to save the $400 and spend it on you.
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I agree. The price is not justified. 3.6 over 3.4EE *cough* or go AMD *cough*. The money can be better spent on some other component.
 
Those who got money and luxury let em buy EE... nothing wrong with that. C'mon.... I know what you like.. you know you want it baby!~
 
Is your dad going to working on workstation graphics or serious CAD engineering? Probably not, tell him that he shouldn't throw that money away. Just buy a decent speed cpu (at least 2.8ghz for P4, or 2 ghz or so for amd64) and he won't know the difference. If he's going to be gaming, then get a 6800 or something.
 
They've got more than 4x the cache. They've got 512K L2 and 2MB L3. So they've got the same amount plus 4x more. So 5x the same amount of cache. Also the socket 478 Pentium 4 Extreme Editions are closer to Northwoods and don't run as hot as the Prescotts.
 
In no way is it worth the money, unless you have serious development work to do and have to have the latest. Dropping an extra half grand for the performance increase is ridiculous.
 
SEALTeamSix said:
In contrast, the EE's are like P4c's with 4 times the cache - 2mb. A 3.4EE would probably feel like a 4GHz P4c - crazy fast.-SEAL
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It would be lucky to feel like a 3.7Ghz P4C and honestly after you get past 3Ghz its all the same unless your doing dvd ripping or something or you get kicks and giggles outta using the pi benchmark :rolleyes:
 
Best way to get an EE is to get one from a reputable seller on Ebay.
You can grab one for $500 if you shop around very carefully.

Good point above about the EE:
It has 2.5 MB cache total, but (I believe) the cache is exclusive, not inclusive (correct me if I'm wrong), so it's only really 2 MB (the L3 cache). and the 512K L2 caches the data from the L3....

Now what we REALLY need is 2 MB of L1 cache ;)
 
Wrong again.
P4 3.4 EE is more or less equal to a 3.8 ghz P4 on most games.
I've tested it myself and compared my scores on 3dmark 2001 with my 3.4EE@stock, vs a 3.8 ghz P4.

And a 3.8 ghz EE is about around ~4.3 ghz P4C, since it scales better. (again due to the cache...). Similar to how the Prescott scales as well.
 
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