EVGA SSC 8800GT

You on crack?

evga 8800GT SSC is the same card as the standard 8800GT - it's not like it's a different core revision like 8800GTX and 8800 Ultra.

It's the exact same internals.
 
cxz001 said:
Hey,


How does the performance of a single EVGA 8800GT SSC compare to that of SLi EVGA 8800GT Normal? Is it a huge difference or just a little? And if I want to SLi 8800gt, would http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16817171023

Be able to handle it?
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The difference between the two is more of their clocks than anything else. The Stock is clocked at 600/1800mhz compared to the SSC which is 700/2000. And yes, your powersupply should be more than enough to run that videocard.

EVGA SSC page that helps you compare the 8800GT models. There is also a 256 model if you are interested in that(which is not listed on that page).
 
so...

there's no point of buying the SSC version????

I don't understand... it is almost $80 more than the standard version... There must be a reason people spend that extra money to buy the SSC.... extra performance maybe?
 
Well, yes of course it has more performance. The core is clocked 100MHZ higher which comes out to be a 16.7% increase on the core alone. As well as an 11% overclock on the Ram. You will without a doubt see higher performance between the two. But the question is, is it worth it to you for the price? and do you think that you can achieve those clocks on the stock model?
 
cxz001 said:
so...

there's no point of buying the SSC version????

I don't understand... it is almost $80 more than the standard version... There must be a reason people spend that extra money to buy the SSC.... extra performance maybe?
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Look man, the company overclocks the card for you to this new level and gives you a warranty. If it melts or breaks you get a new one.
The super-de-dooper cards are usually cherry picked by the reseller thus the extra expense.
The theory is the card may give you a few more percentage increase in performance due to over-clocks. As you recall, overclock by the end-user is usually not covered by the warranty, so if you took your 600 Mhz card and cranked it up and broke it, you'd be out the money. Since the reseller has done this they will warranty it; because they've tested the card and know it will stand up to the abuse......so they charge more. Why......because some noob will pay more for it since its UBerLeeT#1, thats why.
And no.....it generally will not stand up to an SLI pair of the same model.
 
RussianHAXOR said:
Well, yes of course it has more performance. The core is clocked 100MHZ higher which comes out to be a 16.7% increase on the core alone. As well as an 11% overclock on the Ram. You will without a doubt see higher performance between the two. But the question is, is it worth it to you for the price? and do you think that you can achieve those clocks on the stock model?
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Lol these 8800GT's are not so cherry picked, judging by the results in these all the forums,. although you are technically correct.

Short answer YES, most people seem to be able to achieve 700/2000 on the stock model, note "most" and "all" are two different words, there is no guarantees as with any overclock.
 
magoo said:
Look man, the company overclocks the card for you to this new level and gives you a warranty. If it melts or breaks you get a new one.
The super-de-dooper cards are usually cherry picked by the reseller thus the extra expense.
The theory is the card may give you a few more percentage increase in performance due to over-clocks. As you recall, overclock by the end-user is usually not covered by the warranty, so if you took your 600 Mhz card and cranked it up and broke it, you'd be out the money. Since the reseller has done this they will warranty it; because they've tested the card and know it will stand up to the abuse......so they charge more. Why......because some noob will pay more for it since its UBerLeeT#1, thats why.
And no.....it generally will not stand up to an SLI pair of the same model.
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All true, except, EVGA will replace your card if even if you overclocked it past w/e specs you bought it at, if it fails at any point, I believe XFX does the same deal now. Only way to void your warranty would be some sort some physical damage and or volt modding it.
 
Actually most companies dont let you OC at all. from what i know only XFX and EVGA allow removal of coolers as well as overclocking.
 
RussianHAXOR said:
Actually most companies dont let you OC at all. from what i know only XFX and EVGA allow removal of coolers as well as overclocking.
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That removal of coolers is a big deal ~ would be good to be sure of that either way. I wouldn't want to buy a card from a company that would void my warranty for putting on a quieter/and/or cooler fan.

I used to like EVGA, until I tried to use the "step up" program and they said no, sorry, out of stock, no step up for you!
 
Out of stock? What were you trying to stepup to? If you are talking about backordered cards... that has nothing to do with stepup stock. They are two entirely different allocations of cards. Please PM me or tell me what happened so i can figure out if you were treated inappropriately or misunderstood something.
 
RussianHAXOR said:
Out of stock? What were you trying to stepup to? If you are talking about backordered cards... that has nothing to do with stepup stock. They are two entirely different allocations of cards. Please PM me or tell me what happened so i can figure out if you were treated inappropriately or misunderstood something.
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I would be curious to hear the result of this conversation. I'm considering EVGA mainly for their step up program.
 
I thought you just had to officially get in line in the 90 days.....

It didn't matter if the card you were stepping into was in stock or not. When they could fill the order it would come.

Isn't this correct?

That is a deal breaker, and I would get some OC'd 'cherry picked' card, then see how much further it could go.
 
they wont require you send in the card until they have something in stock. That was old policy.

With new policy in effect very recently they have advanced replacement sent to you then yhou send in card..
 
and since the SSC is already OCed to 700, does that mean the SSC will be easier at OC to, say, 750mhz than the Normal editions??
 
cxz001 said:
and since the SSC is already OCed to 700, does that mean the SSC will be easier at OC to, say, 750mhz than the Normal editions??
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unknown. ssc ed are binned at 700mhz. vanilla not binned at all. for all you know the vanilla could be a much much better overclocker than the ssc. people seem to think the vanilla cards are the ones that have failed the binning process. wrong. the vanilla cards are those that have never gone thru the binning process. dont bother springing for the ssc.
 
And if they wanted to make some SSC what happens? They test some that are unbinned. And the ones that dont pass for SSC becomes the KO edition. Since they are already testing, if that card doesnt qualify as KO then it becomes the regular GT version.

Can you really say that non-ssc is therefore unbinned? Chances are that you got some reject that didnt qualify for any of the faster labelled cards.
 
vanilla_guerilla said:
unknown. ssc ed are binned at 700mhz. vanilla not binned at all. for all you know the vanilla could be a much much better overclocker than the ssc. people seem to think the vanilla cards are the ones that have failed the binning process. wrong. the vanilla cards are those that have never gone thru the binning process. dont bother springing for the ssc.
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Unless its like an 8400gs which no one cares about, they bin every single card they get, ive gotten non OC edition cards (7900GT) from evga which was an absolute dud, only hit 529mhz on the core. Overclocking cards is how AIBs make their extra money straight off the top, evga of course has 3 different overclocked 8800GTs, they don't just decide, hey, we need 800 KOs this day, and 500 SSCs the next day. It isnt hard to bin every single card when they do only 10-15 minutes of ATitool artifact scanning, and you got 100 identical computer setups in a room.

Their was some web site which was able to get a tour of the EVGA facilities, in one room it shows you what they were doing for binning cards, running them in a room with 36-40c ambient temps, anyone still got a link to that?.
 
so... Is SSC really worth it? If not, what 8800gt should I get to save a lot of money, but at the same time get performance close to SSC??
 
Simpson5774 said:
Unless its like an 8400gs which no one cares about, they bin every single card they get, ive gotten non OC edition cards (7900GT) from evga which was an absolute dud, only hit 529mhz on the core. Overclocking cards is how AIBs make their extra money straight off the top, evga of course has 3 different overclocked 8800GTs, they don't just decide, hey, we need 800 KOs this day, and 500 SSCs the next day. It isnt hard to bin every single card when they do only 10-15 minutes of ATitool artifact scanning, and you got 100 identical computer setups in a room.

Their was some web site which was able to get a tour of the EVGA facilities, in one room it shows you what they were doing for binning cards, running them in a room with 36-40c ambient temps, anyone still got a link to that?.
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since as you say that every single card is binned, how is it that guys can overclock their vanilla and superclocked cards to as high or higher than the ssc cards? havent these cards failed binning at over 560/600 ?
 
RussianHAXOR said:
Out of stock? What were you trying to stepup to? If you are talking about backordered cards... that has nothing to do with stepup stock. They are two entirely different allocations of cards. Please PM me or tell me what happened so i can figure out if you were treated inappropriately or misunderstood something.
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email from EVGA:

Question (8/17/2006 7:59:34 PM): Hi, I want to "Step Up" to the 7900GT KO 512 MB (like this one: 512-P2-N568-AR), not the GTX version, but I'm worried if they will be in stock before my "Step Up" eligibility ends? I'm also concerned that I had seen the GT 512 MB card on the list but now I don't see it there. How/when can I do this to be sure I don't miss my chance to get the 512? Thank you

Answered By Arthur V (8/18/2006 7:56:08 AM): The reason why it's not on the list anymore is because we don't offer it through step up anymore. Please read our updated step up Terms and Conditions. http://evga.com/stepup/default.asp?switch=2

When I first tried to step up that card was new, I couldn't do the step up on the web page so I waited for a while, thinking it would come back in stock, it didn't so I emailed them because I was very disappointed and really wanted to step up to the 512MB version. I had bought the card specifically because of the step up option because I was not sure if I was going to be happy with the 256MB version or not. I soon decided that I did indeed want the 512 MB version and was unpleasantly surprised to find out that I couldn't.

"you can't get it because we're not offering it" well, duh, I saw that it wasn't being "offered" anymore for step up (even though it was in stock on shelves everywhere and still shipping to stores) the reason why I emailed to ASK to get it was because I didn't see it being "offered", otherwise I wouldn't have bothered to email, would I? What a lame explanation eh? What a way not to come through for a customer. My previous cards had been EVGA before that one also. I think I'll stay away from EVGA products in the future. :(
 
firas said:
is the SSC cooler different from the stock cooler?
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SSC stands for: Standard Stock Cooler :p Looks the same in the pictures, just the clock setting in the BIOS is dif. Maybe they are "binned" also though...
 
gibber said:
email from EVGA:

Question (8/17/2006 7:59:34 PM): Hi, I want to "Step Up" to the 7900GT KO 512 MB (like this one: 512-P2-N568-AR), not the GTX version, but I'm worried if they will be in stock before my "Step Up" eligibility ends? I'm also concerned that I had seen the GT 512 MB card on the list but now I don't see it there. How/when can I do this to be sure I don't miss my chance to get the 512? Thank you

Answered By Arthur V (8/18/2006 7:56:08 AM): The reason why it's not on the list anymore is because we don't offer it through step up anymore. Please read our updated step up Terms and Conditions. http://evga.com/stepup/default.asp?switch=2

When I first tried to step up that card was new, I couldn't do the step up on the web page so I waited for a while, thinking it would come back in stock, it didn't so I emailed them because I was very disappointed and really wanted to step up to the 512MB version. I had bought the card specifically because of the step up option because I was not sure if I was going to be happy with the 256MB version or not. I soon decided that I did indeed want the 512 MB version and was unpleasantly surprised to find out that I couldn't.

"you can't get it because we're not offering it" well, duh, I saw that it wasn't being "offered" anymore for step up (even though it was in stock on shelves everywhere and still shipping to stores) the reason why I emailed to ASK to get it was because I didn't see it being "offered", otherwise I wouldn't have bothered to email, would I? What a lame explanation eh? What a way not to come through for a customer. My previous cards had been EVGA before that one also. I think I'll stay away from EVGA products in the future. :(
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Just sell it on Ebay for gosh's sakes and buy the 512MB version off Ebay or somewhere if you can find it. It's very RARE.. a 7950GT is pretty much the same and much easier to find. I heard that EVGA's step-up program actually costs more money than to just sell it and then buy a better one. Man, eVGA seems to be getting so much credit for this.
 
This was a very long time ago. I believe that this was the 512 GT. The reason they took the 512 GT off was because they were in very limited quantities and they were gonna release the GTO cards which were in effect the same thing.
 
RussianHAXOR said:
This was a very long time ago. I believe that this was the 512 GT. The reason they took the 512 GT off was because they were in very limited quantities and they were gonna release the GTO cards which were in effect the same thing.
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Well it sucked because I simply would not have bought the 256 if I hadn't known that I could "steup up" to the 512. I wasn't sure if I would be happy with the 256 or not, but the step up gave me the reassurance that it'd be safe to try it, then upgrade if the games that I was waiting to come out ran better with the 512, otherwise, I would have just kept the 256. I got burnt and I felt like the "step up" is bullshit false advertising and I'm still not happy at EVGA because of it. Why didn't they tell me "apply for the step up, and in a while when the GTO comes out we'll step you up to that" or something along those lines, instead of "sorry you can't because we say so". Whatever the reason, it's still poor customer service and not at all living up to my expectations after seeing the sticker on the box advertising the "step up" program. :rolleyes:
 
cxz001 said:
so... Is SSC really worth it? If not, what 8800gt should I get to save a lot of money, but at the same time get performance close to SSC??
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Buy any 8800GT from any company. Whichever you can find in stock that is the cheapeast. Overclock it to SSC speeds. That's what EVGA does. Buy EVGA if you want the warranty with freedom to overclock/replace cooler, and the step-up program as well as the Quake Wars/Crysis bundled with it.
 
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