EVGA Classified Issues

Blackforge said:
Same batch numbers or different? I still think it might be having issues with certain batches (the reason why it would escapes me though).

I'm wondering if it'd be worthwhile to stick in a working one, tweaking the voltages a little over and plugging in one of the FF CPUs to see if it posts. Unless you've already tried that of course.

If its a 759, I'd assume its running S21S BIOS and if its 760/761 - S60Z? If its a 759 you can try an older revision BIOS that I have if you like?
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FF?
 
vengence said:
Ordered from the same reseller I presume? That is so weird.
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Not certain. I bought four 920s for our editors, two from one place, two from another a good while back.
 
Blackforge said:
Same batch numbers or different? I still think it might be having issues with certain batches (the reason why it would escapes me though).

I'm wondering if it'd be worthwhile to stick in a working one, tweaking the voltages a little over and plugging in one of the FF CPUs to see if it posts. Unless you've already tried that of course.

If its a 759, I'd assume its running S21S BIOS and if its 760/761 - S60Z? If its a 759 you can try an older revision BIOS that I have if you like?
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I can't tell you right now as one of the FF CPUs is going to EVGA and the other good one is going back to Morry already.


I have switched CPUs back and forth, but no, I have not tried to start adding variables to the issue.
 
Well, I just received my classified mobo, its the 761 model and I installed a retail i7 920 C0 with no problems. Hope the problem doesn't come up down the road though. I'll keep following this to see if a bios revision fixes the problem.
 
eva2000 said:
Kyle, I'm curious with both these cpus and others have you tried measuring the multimeter measure points/contacts on the board to see what the read for vcore, cpu vtt etc - assuming that even if they don't boot, there's power to the board of course.
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No, and I don't have any of the hardware here currently.
 
Kyle, more likely then not, the CPU's that are failing are ever so slightly out of spec, not so much to trigger some chipsets but enough to trigger when using stuff like digital pwm's or other evga specific hardware used in the classified board.

I had a problem like this back in the P4 3.06ghz days where one cpu would not work in one type of board but worked fine in other similar ones same chipsets etc.
 
Nanan said:
Kyle, more likely then not, the CPU's that are failing are ever so slightly out of spec, not so much to trigger some chipsets but enough to trigger when using stuff like digital pwm's or other evga specific hardware used in the classified board.

I had a problem like this back in the P4 3.06ghz days where one cpu would not work in one type of board but worked fine in other similar ones same chipsets etc.
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I guess if 2 out of 3 of Intel retail purchased boxed CPUs are out of spec, then we really have a story. I don't think that is the issue though.
 
I would be more likely to believe that some of the EVGA X58 mobos are out of spec in some way. Keep in mind that that even though the CPU doesnt work in the EVGA board it works in other mobos just fine.
 
solaris54 said:
I would be more likely to believe that some of the EVGA X58 mobos are out of spec in some way. Keep in mind that that even though the CPU doesnt work in the EVGA board it works in other mobos just fine.
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I'll agree it is most likely a motherboard issue, it is possible that the other motherboards are simply more forgiving to CPUs being out of spec. But again, I do think it is the motherboard.
 
http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.asp?m=100711856
I just upgraded to a Classified (E759) and it won't POST. Not FF, but F3 (mostly). I haven't had time to do full troubleshooting on it yet, but I have tried a few things and am using minimal components for testing. All of these components had been working great in my X58 for three months until I powered it down to ship it in.

UPDATE: I booted up with just one stick of RAM and it POSTed fine. Entered the BIOS and saved, then rebooted with three sticks installed. Still worked, so I put the remaining three in. I've now got all my parts reinstalled and am typing this from my new Classified system.
 
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Just as an FYI, I had the FF error when I set my memory timings to tight while trying to overclock. I hit the CMOS reset button and it allowed me to boot again.
 
InvisiBill said:
http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.asp?m=100711856
I just upgraded to a Classified (E759) and it won't POST. Not FF, but F3 (mostly). I haven't had time to do full troubleshooting on it yet, but I have tried a few things and am using minimal components for testing. All of these components had been working great in my X58 for three months until I powered it down to ship it in.

UPDATE: I booted up with just one stick of RAM and it POSTed fine. Entered the BIOS and saved, then rebooted with three sticks installed. Still worked, so I put the remaining three in. I've now got all my parts reinstalled and am typing this from my new Classified system.
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FYI, F3, F6 and 68 codes are usually ones that tend to cycle as a result of memory
 
I have an odd problem with my classified both my first one that I rma'd and the replacement.

It does not matter if I am overclocked or at stock setting, but after running acouple of days and I reboot it hangs on the shutdown with code 22 and if i push the reset button it will boot very slow (5-7 minutes to boot), if I power down the pc the bios resets to defaults. I can go in and load my saved settings and I can go back to running normal.

anyone else have an issue like this?

rody

ps:
I have all kinds of issues with my belkin N1 wireless usb adapter.
 
This happened to me with a 790 Ultra mobo and a Q6600 G0. The CPU worked fine in P35 and i975x motherboards and with the 790 Ultra I got instant an instant FF code. I switched it around a few times testing. I never resolved the issue with the 790.

I haven't seen this instant FF code on any other motherboard I've used since I've been building my own computers, and that's a long list stringing from i975 to X58.

I've seen people talking about this issue before when dealing with boards from EVGA and XFX.

Google instant FF code and see what pops.
 
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kyle have you resolved your issues with classified?

is there any video review coming?
 
Instant FF post code Troubleshooting guide

http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.asp?m=100504672

This guide will aid you in troubleshooting the FF, --, and 88 POST codes, this guide will also aid in troubleshooting those post codes that just say "Reserved" in your manual.

Power Issues

-Improper Voltage Settings Verify that the power supply is set to use the 110v standard instead of 220v. There is a switch on the back of most power supplies that will regulate this voltage. 110v is used in the United States, Canada, and most other North American countries. 220v is used in most European countries.
-8 pin and 24 pin connections Verify that the 8 pin and 24 pin power connections are connected to the motherboard and seated correctly. Reseat the 8 pin power connection and make sure that no adapters, extension cables, or other intermediates are being used between the power supply and the motherboard.
-Uninterruptable Power Supplies (UPS) If an uninterruptable power supply is being used verify that the UPS is rated to sustain the wattage and amperage for the power supply being used in the computer. Also try plugging the machine directly into the wall if a UPS is being used. This will rule out any issues pertaining to a UPS.
-Faulty Power Supply If the previous steps do not resolve the issue it is recommended to try a different power supply with the machine to rule out any power supply issues.


Grounding / Shorting Issues

-Motherboard Stand-offs Ensure that standoffs are being used between the motherboard and the case, and the motherboard is not being screwed directly into the motherboard. Make sure that there is one standoff for each hole in the motherboard, and there are no additional standoffs making contact with the motherboard.
-Aftermarket Party CPU Coolers If using an aftermarket CPU cooler that screws through the motherboard try unscrewing the CPU cooler and placing it on top of the CPU without screwing it down. If the screws are screwed too tight it can cause a shorting issue with the board that will cause it not to POST. Please note that this is for testing purposes only. Do not run the machine under normal use without properly attaching the CPU cooler.
-Ground Fault Remove the motherboard from the case and place it on a non conductive surface (wood, cardboard, etc.). With only power connections, CPU, and CPU fan attached try powering on the motherboard. Please note that the machine will POST to an F6 POST code if board is POSTing. The F6 POST code will signify that there is no memory installed. If you receive this error you can continue to rebuild the machine as normal.


CPU Problems


-CPU Detection Verify that the CPU is properly seated in the CPU socket and that there are no bend pins on the motherboard. If all of the pins appear to be intact try reseating the CPU in the socket and see if the motherboard will POST.
-CPU Fan Make sure that the CPU fan is correctly attached to the processor and the fan header is plugged in to the correct header on the motherboard. If the CPU fan is not attached to the correct header on the board, or not attached at all, the motherboard may not POST correctly.
-CPU Dip Switch (790i FTW Digital PWM only)
The 790i FTW Digital PWM Motherboard (132-YW-E180-A1) has a tiny dip switch near the CPU socket towards the top of the motherboard. This switch toggles different power modes for your CPU. Leave the switch to the "1" position for Core 2 processors and above (Core 2 Duo, Core 2 Quad, etc.). For Pentium 4 or older processors flip the switch to the "ON" position. If this switch is set to the incorrect setting the motherboard will not POST and result in the motherboard going straight to the "FF" POST code without cycling through other POST codes. If the board doesn’t post and goes to FF automatically turn the machine off, flip the switch from the 1 to the ON position, and see if it posts.
-Faulty CPU If the above steps do not resolve the issue then it is recommended to try a different CPU in the motherboard to rule out any potential CPU issues.

BIOS Issues

-Improperly Seated BIOS Chip Try pressing down on the BIOS chip of your motherboard to verify that the BIOS chip is correctly seated in the motherboard. The BIOS chip is generally located near the CMOS battery of your motherboard. Give the BIOS chip a little pressure to see if it will click into place.
-CMOS Clear Try clearing the CMOS of the motherboard by removing the CMOS battery from the motherboard for a period of time. You can also clear the CMOS by moving the clear CMOS jumper from pins 2 and 3 to pins 1 and 2 for about 30 seconds. After 30 seconds move the clear CMOS jumper back to pins 2 and 3.
 
Curious if he got his classy workin for the review? I can tell you guys what happened first off with mine. Would not post no matter what I tryed, hangin on 86 (the final micro init code). Turned out that the classy has sata port issues as they relate to HT and if you turn off HT, it boots flawlessly. Rearanged the boot drive to a different port, and she works perfectly.
The other thing that most new classy owners should consider,... the auto settings are wacky, especially as they relate to DO stepped proccys. Probably best to set everything up manually, and tighten it up later.
 
All these issues with a $420 board made me stray away from it... so I was look at the Maximus II... then realized I didn't need triple SLI or some of the other features so ended up with a P6T Deluxe... I wish I got the V1 vs. V2 cause I would have liked to try out some SAS drives but oh well...
 
Yea, I'm not looking for extreme overclocks though... and the number of problems... like basic CPU and PSU incompatibility just seems unacceptable for a board of that caliber.

That's just my opinion though, I think the P6T Deluxe will be enough... :) just looking to get 4.0ghz out of a 920...
 
i am having similar problem with my EVGA X58 (non-classified board.

When I first got all of my components, I intalled a fresh, brand new Intel Core i7 920 (c0/c1) into the system. The computer boots without any hitch. I subsequently put the same processor in a gigabyte x58 board to do a fw thing and test. Then I put the same CPU back to the EVGA board, then bam, got FF code. This is the oddest thing.

Thinking that it could be both motherboard or the processor. I rmaed both the CPU and both the gigabyte and EVGA board. After I received the components. I put the brand new cpu to the gigabyte board first (because I have the board at the hand). then when I swap the cpu to the EVGA board, I got FF code. I tried all combination of things and still no boot. So I rmaed the motherboard again back to EVGA, and got the replacment board back and test it. Again, FF code.

now, I am puzzled as to what can cause such issue. I do not have any virgin core i7 processor that I can put in the EVGA board to test it.

I am thinking could there be any issue with the Gigabyte board somehow cause damage to my CPU?
 
i was having the same problem on my classified board as well, it would work eith a brand new out of the box cpu, but not with one that i had used within a few days. after a bit of tinkering the only conclusion that i could come to was that there was some residual info on the chip from the last time it was booted, i had similar issues like this back in the i486 days, i know, it shows my age, so for grins i took the 965 and 920 i had that gave me the ff code and hard shorted them (pin 488 -010 don't try at home) used an osciloscope and held them till the wave flat lined. and what do ya know, they booted after that, but as soon as i put them in another board, and put them back in the class they threw the ff code, another hard short and they booted. i don't know exactly why it happens but it does, it reminded me of the days when u went from a 486sx to a 486dx u had to do something similar to get the math coprocessor to be recognized. but anyway, thats my 2 cents
 
141-BL-E760-A1

As I just ordered a EVGA classified MB I see this thread :(. I hope it will handle my 965 cpu and my Corsair 8-8-8-24 ram.
 
jstanthr said:
i was having the same problem on my classified board as well, it would work eith a brand new out of the box cpu, but not with one that i had used within a few days. after a bit of tinkering the only conclusion that i could come to was that there was some residual info on the chip from the last time it was booted, i had similar issues like this back in the i486 days, i know, it shows my age, so for grins i took the 965 and 920 i had that gave me the ff code and hard shorted them (pin 488 -010 don't try at home) used an osciloscope and held them till the wave flat lined. and what do ya know, they booted after that, but as soon as i put them in another board, and put them back in the class they threw the ff code, another hard short and they booted. i don't know exactly why it happens but it does, it reminded me of the days when u went from a 486sx to a 486dx u had to do something similar to get the math coprocessor to be recognized. but anyway, thats my 2 cents
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You say 488 and 010, what are the landing numbers for those pins?
 
I figured out most of my issues with this board.
Do not let it sleep at all, at most let it shut off the monitor, if you let is do anything else it becomes unstable for a while.

I still get massive slow downs every once in a while that I have not figured out but a complete power-down and unplug from wall resets the BIOS and all is well.... very odd to be sure.

rody
 
zero is from the left notch at 10 o clock position. goes from outer ring in in a clockwise manner, i have a .jpg here from intel as soon as i find it i'll post it.
 
Ok I just ordered this board and I expect it to arrive next week. I've heard some EVGA boards have a "double boot" issue which is normal for the boards but somewhat annoying, does this affect the Classified E760 board? I would be disappointed if it did.
 
Doesn't double boot but they do take a while to give the post beep from a cold boot.
 
John Vuong said:
Ok I just ordered this board and I expect it to arrive next week. I've heard some EVGA boards have a "double boot" issue which is normal for the boards but somewhat annoying, does this affect the Classified E760 board? I would be disappointed if it did.
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No double boot issue with mine. Make sure that your bios is up to date though. Go visit the EVGA forums and you can download the latest bios to flash to your mobo.
 
that double boot issue seems to only happen if you have viturulazition turned on
 
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