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i am geting about 5 to 10% better overclocks. by better, i mean higher, but i max my cpu's out. i dont just "well i got 4ghz thats good for me" type stuff. that whole 4ghz thing has been done. trying to get 5ghz, before nehalem comes out and we cant overclock intel anymore. and as soon as amd sees that intel is having success with locked fsb and locked multipliers, we wont be able to overclock amd either.