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Enough to run HL2?

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Mikey20

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P4 1.5GHz / 400MHz FSB
512MB PC2700 DDR Ram
Radeon 9700pro 128mb
max res used: 1024x768/32bit

Would this be enough to get good frame rates...without AA/AF enabled?
 
when i say good framerate i mean above 40fps? not dropping in the low 20s?
 
remeber HL2 will be kinda like DooM ]|[ , if your computer sucks, the game will automatically turn its self down, (i.e. lower quality, less shaders, lower directx stuff), so that it can run well. So with your setup you'll probably have totally playable frame rates that look a LOT better than HL1, but not as good as possible. :)

Hope that helps!
 
the minimum requirement for cpu is 1.2, so during battles, you won't get great fps.
 
According to PC Gamer's extensive Half Life 2 coverage in their recent December issue (and you'll no doubt have heard by now that PC Gamer awarded Half Life 2 with a staggering 98% - calling it 'quite possibly the greatest game ever made'), it is said that Half Life's engine will push the hardware in every direction.

Asked what the minimum specs. will be, Gary McTaggart (Valve's technical guru) responded by saying that you'll need at least a 1.2 GHZ CPU with 256MB RAM even to get the thing up and running (and I'm assuming that you'll have to turn down all the settings even to get an acceptable frame-rate). This is nonsense, of course. The game will not get up and running with such a system, it will instead get up and sort of stagger around for a bit, cough up a bit of spittle, and then flump itself into a wheelchair.

However, when asked to put together a Low End System, here's what Gary the guru came up with: 2GHZ CPU, 512MB RAM (he would prefer you have 1GB), and an ATI RADEON 9600 PRO 128MB. Now, that's his Low End System, mind you.

By comparison, to enable the full DIRECTX 9 experience, McTaggart suggested the following system: 3.6GHZ P4 CPU or AMD Athlon 64 FX-53, 2GB RAM (yes, he actually wants you to have 2GB RAM - I'm not making this up), and an ATI X800 XT 256MB video card. And presumably he would appreciate it if you're Catholic, because that way you'll also have God on your side.

My guess, based on what McTaggart has told PC Gamer, is that Half Life 2 is actually going to be much, much, much... can we say much again, more taxing on people's computers than most people think.

There's a lot of denial going on about this game.

How many of us here have been gaming since the early 80's? Raise your hand and shout: "Yes, I'm an old foggy!" When has a cutting edge game ever run smoothly on anything but a state of the art PC? Remember Wing Commander, Strike Commander... hell, any game from Origin! I can still remember Richard Garriot saying that you'd need 512 MB of RAM to run Ascension smoothly - nobody on the planet had that much RAM in their computer, except maybe for The Queen of England or somebody - everyone said that there was just no way you'd need that much RAM; but you did.

I only got Ascension running properly, like, yesterday.

Let's face the facts. There are going to be two different versions of Half Life 2. One that will actually run on people's systems, and look sort of okay. And another that will run on only a few people's systems, and will be a glorious sight to behold. Theoretically, of course.

I have a hunch that when people see Half Life 2 running on a state-of-the-art system, they'll be shocked when they return to their mid-range or low-end system.

I could be wrong, of course - this is all just speculation based on my experiences as a gaming enthusiast over the past 25 years.

Yes, I suppose I'm jaded... oh god, no... Jaded... Jaded!

Hey that was a long post - am I getting paid for this?

[EDIT: And then, of course, there'll be the Xbox version of Half Life 2... pfft...]
 
bountyhunter said:
try OCing a little bit, it will realy help. get to 133.
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*snicker*

Really funny to read this after the massive post right above yours :)
 
Netrat33 said:
*snicker*

Really funny to read this after the massive post right above yours :)
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Man, I love you guys!

... er, not THAT sort of love, if you know what I mean. I mean I love you guys. I don't love you love you. I just love you.
 
get a new processor... can the board take at least a 533 chip?

a 1.5ghz p4 is gonna get raped by hl2... the 1.5ghz p4 is raped by a p3 @ >1ghz even..
 
yeah... get at least a northwood p4 2.4ghz (last one made to run on a 400mhz bus)...
 
im on a althonxp 2800+
512 ddr ram(gonna add another stick of 512 once HL2 gets close to release)
im plannin on gettin a 6600 GT around the time of the release. right now i got a g4mx440 :( when will the agp ver of the 6600 GT come out btw?
got 120gb hd with plenty of room :)
hopefully i can use most of the settings. not lookin for hardcore max settings. just everything on but not fancy. would this all be good enuff?
 
Poster - Yep, thats the only problem. That cpu is a willamette. The game is not that demanding but usually when you see a thread like this you see an old card or just a bad system. The card is more than adequate for good detail... the cpu is a dog though. Sorry, since you have a better system in your sig I assume the specs you ask may be someone else's? P4's from that era did not have the cache nor the bus to shine, that the netburst architecture needs. There were class-action lawsuits in the hardware news back in that day about people being so upset. Like above... P3's can give it a run for it's willie money. Last I heard a 1.4 willie ~ a 1 GHz P3. You can imagine the good press they got when someone plunked $600 down for one. I don't know if they were thinking of Willies and Celerons when they made the minimum spec.

Gummy- cpu is fine. The card may chug a bit and it won't be doing shader effects. You're upgrade plans will blast through the game quite well.
 
wut do u mean by chug a bit and not have shader effects. can u be more specific?
 
I agree with many of the others here. Your CPU will be the weak link the the chain. It should run the game, but you will probably lose alot of the fancy graphics.
 
This is interesting because I heard that it would be less taxing than Doom 3 :(

system in sig hopefully will be able to run it in 1280x1024 with at least 60fps (lol I am dreaming aren't I?)

the Doom 3 demo ran fine

If HL2 and San Andreas run fine (which SA will, I worry about HL2) then I hope to be able to push any upgrade until college time (I am a junior in HS now)
 
GummyBear said:
wut do u mean by chug a bit and not have shader effects. can u be more specific?
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Well the chug would come from the card not being able to render the graphics load. Frame rate drops in such below 30fps that you may notice. You know typical slowdowns that you may be able to overcome by lowering the detail. Actually, I'm not sure what the requirements are. But if you meet them you may be able to enjoy the game but have to live with 640*480 for example.

Shader effects... welll without getting all technical.... just check out an article on the stress test thats included. For instance one scene has a transparent guy and a bunch of fire around him. Ripples from the heat etc and the guy looks like the predator and transparent. With DX7 the guy is a big solid black figure in the flames.
 
By comparison, to enable the full DIRECTX 9 experience, McTaggart suggested the following system: 3.6GHZ P4 CPU or AMD Athlon 64 FX-53, 2GB RAM (yes, he actually wants you to have 2GB RAM - I'm not making this up), and an ATI X800 XT 256MB video card.
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Well, McTaggart is talking out of his ass. Anybody can get a copy of the Source Engine Stress Test (easy way: pre-order HL2 through Steam) to see how well their system can handle the game. Notice that it is called a "stress test," not an "easy test that any crap system can pass." Valve released the test for the precise purpose of letting you find out how well your hardware can handle the HL2 engine (since the Source engine is the HL2 engine, of course).

The result? On a P4 3.2E/1GB PC3200/Geforce 6800 GT system I got 106 FPS at 1280x1024 4xAA 8xAF and maximum detail settings.

:rolleyes:

I'd suggest people stop and grow a brain. Are Valve going to make a game that nobody has the hardware to play? To quote the sages of our time, "bitch, please!"

To conclude: the insane hardware requirement claims for HL2 are bullshit, just like the insane hardware requirement rumors for Doom 3 that said you'd need a 6800 Ultra and a P4EE and 2 GB of RAM just to load it. :rolleyes:
 
If you've seen the movie they have out for HL2 with the guy inside a buildings attic and the whole HDR thing they had going on in that attic part of the scene as well as when he goes outside and the sun reflects off flagstones and then they show an alien creature with this incredible reflective exoskeleton....

That is the kind of stuff you WON'T be able to do (while playing) on anything but an ungodly PC (and you may have to wait another year to be able to buy that PC anyway).
 
You will be able to play it, just not with all the eye candy turned on. Kind of like a fat free version of the game.
 
arentol said:
If you've seen the movie they have out for HL2 with the guy inside a buildings attic and the whole HDR thing they had going on in that attic part of the scene as well as when he goes outside and the sun reflects off flagstones and then they show an alien creature with this incredible reflective exoskeleton....

That is the kind of stuff you WON'T be able to do (while playing) on anything but an ungodly PC (and you may have to wait another year to be able to buy that PC anyway).
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Yuppers.

There's just no way that the vast majority of gamers are going to see Half Life 2 running at full capacity until they buy a new system 12 to 24 months down the road.

Would a gaming company design a game that can't run on most people's systems - shock, gasp... like, THAT'S never happened before. LOL! I've seen this exact same thing happen on a countless number of occasions.

I can still remember installing Wing Commander onto my cutting edge 12 MHZ 286 machine under DOS. I had to comprimise so many settings that the game I was running was a pale shadow of what I'd read about in Computer Gaming World.

Nobody on the face of the planet was able to run Wing Commander the way that it was shown on the box (which was supposed to be an actual in-game screenshot). Nevertheless, time will tell - my suspicions are that in about a week and a half there are going to be a lot of people making comprimises with their HL2 game settings.
 
I guess we are going to do this for every new and highly anticipated title:rolleyes:
 
Shzitt said:
You will be able to play it, just not with all the eye candy turned on. Kind of like a fat free version of the game.
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I like that analogy. :)

Looks like low res for mee.
 
GummyBear said:
im on a althonxp 2800+
512 ddr ram(gonna add another stick of 512 once HL2 gets close to release)
im plannin on gettin a 6600 GT around the time of the release. right now i got a g4mx440 :( when will the agp ver of the 6600 GT come out btw?
got 120gb hd with plenty of room :)
hopefully i can use most of the settings. not lookin for hardcore max settings. just everything on but not fancy. would this all be good enuff?
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yes play at 1280x960 with max settings and maybe a lil aa or af.. but yeah ur fine.. since the 9800xt is slower than the 6600gt by a little.. i had a 9800xt and it could run that res just fine.. so u'll be fine
 
Your computer will do FINE stop listing to the propaganda. Trust me spending the 500 dollars on a stupid whatever to see some direct x effects is just NOT reasonable. Maybe in a year you will need to upgrade but I wouldnt worry.
 
independantvariable said:
Your computer will do FINE stop listing to the propaganda. Trust me spending the 500 dollars on a stupid whatever to see some direct x effects is just NOT reasonable. Maybe in a year you will need to upgrade but I wouldnt worry.
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we're talking about upgrading a 1.5ghz WILLAMETTE dude! there is no way in hell that processor is going to run ANY recent game well.

an upgrade would cost him under 100 bucks. possibly under 75.
 
Shzitt said:
Under 100 :eek: Only if he is able to use the same board he has.
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well, thats what im assuming, even if he can only up the proc, he can get a 2.4ghz northy with a 100mhz bus for cheap, im sure
 
True, but for roughly 300 he could get a new winchestor core and mobo.
 
CastleBravo said:
Well, McTaggart is talking out of his ass. Anybody can get a copy of the Source Engine Stress Test (easy way: pre-order HL2 through Steam) to see how well their system can handle the game. Notice that it is called a "stress test," not an "easy test that any crap system can pass." Valve released the test for the precise purpose of letting you find out how well your hardware can handle the HL2 engine (since the Source engine is the HL2 engine, of course).

The result? On a P4 3.2E/1GB PC3200/Geforce 6800 GT system I got 106 FPS at 1280x1024 4xAA 8xAF and maximum detail settings.

:rolleyes:

I'd suggest people stop and grow a brain. Are Valve going to make a game that nobody has the hardware to play? To quote the sages of our time, "bitch, please!"

To conclude: the insane hardware requirement claims for HL2 are bullshit, just like the insane hardware requirement rumors for Doom 3 that said you'd need a 6800 Ultra and a P4EE and 2 GB of RAM just to load it. :rolleyes:
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*sigh* more misinformation. since when is halflife2 going to be a small cave with spinning blocks of shaders and no enemy AI, and no physics? use your head, VST is a VIDEO test, nothing more. HL2 itself is going to be much more demanding on the CPU, so a good overall system is necessary if you want the visuals and decent framerates. you learn something new everyday eh
 
Shzitt said:
True, but for roughly 300 he could get a new winchestor core and mobo.
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i think if he had 300 he wouldnt be hoping his system could run the game :p
 
i just noticed guy's sig.. hes got a 2.8 and an xt! i guess hes asking about this for a friend?

And you need 2 gigs of RAM just to run that bloated pile of shit Steam
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lol, aint that the truth..
 
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