Enermax headin' out....big time.....

corn-nelly-oos0_0,

FYI the OCZ PSU's are made by TAGAN/E-Power, not Toppower, dont know where that guy pulled that name out. And yes, the pwoerstream series is great, ide get one if i had the money, but my enermax noisetaker dual +12v rails is fine for me. 420W to powe rmy LGA775 system + an X800 all OC'd, not too bad.

I would too recommend the OCZ series if you want a stable PSU for all that ish.

BTW: PM me on where you got that CSP-700 pump, i wanna get one for my WCing LGA775 kit im getting next week but i cant find any :(
 
Dillusion said:
corn-nelly-oos0_0,

FYI the OCZ PSU's are made by TAGAN/E-Power, not Toppower
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LOL, Tagans are made by Topower too :p

http://www.dansdata.com/top686p6.htm
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article173-page3.html
TOP.jpg

caption>" the TOP label on the transformer rings a bell, but can't place it..." :p
(Photo by Mike Chin hosted seperately)

both Tagan & ePower are simply "johnny come lately" rebranders \ retailers
while Topower has been a major player in PSU manufacturing for quite awhile
(started in 1986) I own a redundant Topower TOP-300SSR

and for Tagan
larrymoencurly said:
The Finnish Safety Technology Authority monitors the market for unsafe and possibly hazardous equipment/materials in Finland.

It has recently issued the following statement about
Tagan TG330-U01 (Topower Electronics Co Ltd, China):

http://www.tukes.fi/cgi-bin/myyntikiellot/tiedot.cfm?id=3753
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Thx for all the suggestions guys, as if the 600W Powerstream with the dual 12v rails isn't going to be out anytime soon I'm gonna have to start looking at alternatives.
 
Ice Czar said:
well AC current is only converted as needed
so your still likely under 300 watts consumption (a misnomer) even at full looad but till you run the numbers you cant really tell, then there is the temperature variable, the efficiency at load variable, the load variable, uptime required :p

just use this
http://www.apcc.com/tools/ups_selector/index.cfm##

then once I have a KVA range I go shoppin different brands
sometimes there are some pretty nice UPS on ebay
rackmounts ect, but figure on replacement batteries eventually and shipping charges
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Make sure don't buy APC 350 and 400VA. b/c of defective and been recalled.
 
cornelious0_0 said:
What? I realised that a lot of people have beef with OCZ, but I've had a few sets of their ram, am running some right now, and I really wanna give the Powerstream line a go. If anyone here has any personal (or not) vendetta's with OCZ I'd ask you to either leave or put them aside, because I don't need ppl trying to persuade me everytime their name is mentioned.

thx
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that arg concerned the pics being a long time away... nothing to do with ocz... who i have nothing against...
 
starhawk said:
that arg concerned the pics being a long time away... nothing to do with ocz... who i have nothing against...
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Ive forgiven them their past transgressions, since they seem to be on the up and up now
that is not to say they arent still sinning when it comes to bullsh!t marketese hyperbol
and a lack of anything but the most basic technical specs for a PSU that aspires to a slot in the superior category

personally considering the application, I wouldnt waste my time with that 600 watt
my first choice would be the PC Power and Cooling 510 Turbo Cool Express
followed the Neopower
after that for reliable basic spec compliance
Enermax ATX12V v2.0 series (Noisetakerv2.0 and CoolerGiant)
Fortron Blue Storm ATX12V v2.0

that 600 Watt is simply a further interation of the bigger is better game
and while it has adjustable pots, most other supplies do as well, just not externally
and as mentioned before, its just basic compliance and for overclocking Id get as tight and clean as possible

Im running dual 244 Opterons, 4GB of PC2700, FX3000, K8W and 10 Drives
3 x 120 Fnas (Midcase) and a smaller crossflow
and the Turbo Cool 510 is Rock Steady with no fluctuation on the rails
in comparision to the cost of that rig, the PCP&C was cheap insurance

and Id point out that when compared to the OCZ it too is a 600 watt,
since the 510 Watt rating is for 40C not 25C like the OCZ\Topower
 
after, your post was the first I saw of it actually in stores

all the major manufacturers have had the ATX12V v2.0 supplies listed on their sites for awhile
(half a year to a year now) but they werent really in the distribution chain
Antec managed to get out first as far as I can tell with the Neopower, followed by Enermax and the Fortron
which is sort of a list of the main manufacturers, the rebranders like OCZ, Epower ect, are beginning to catch up as the need grows

alot of manufacturers sort of did half measures making highbred ATX12V v1.3 supplies with more amps on the +12V rail but still a single +12V rail, and with the higher efficiency but still the 20 pin connector, so you end up with a grab bag of ATX12V v1.3 monster watt supplies that hit or miss on actually being able to power some configs, largely because the watts\amps are on the wrong rails
 
motithejrt said:
I submit to your superior knowledge of all things PSU, I am not worthy!
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Ditto, even though time is tight you've really got me thinking about PCP&C again. If not that then it's good to know that the NeoPower may still serve me well. We'll see, maybe I can make something work for the PCP&C 510. :cool:
 
there arent all that many applications where I seriously pimp the PCP&C

they are pretty much limited to my situatuion
1. a monster rig worth more than my first car cost
and yours
2. serious overclocking :p

if someone is simply dabbling in overclocking
or just building a nice gaming rig, there are lots of other supplies
and getting one that exceeds spec isnt all that critical
but your looking to eliminate the supply as a potential contributing factor in the overclock
and thats serious overclocking, Ive never heard of one overclocker complain about a PCP&C Turbo Cool
actually they have all said its the best investment they made
(and my home forum was OC&Cooling for my first 2 years here, but I was in it for the cooling :p )
hell didnt you mention phase change somewhere?
$200+ is cheap compared to just one magic smoke incident and will last a considerable time

so thats my reasoning

note: while the PCP&C has a single +12V rail, its not that big a deal in a supply that is able to maintain a transient response of 1%, and such clean AC Ripple
as our resident EE gee pointed out to me, dual rails is a measure adopted in the latest ATX12V spec that ensure cheaper voltage regulation schemes ensure stability ;)
(I was a little perturbed for awhile when I discovered my 510 EPS12V was simply compatible not compliant till gee settled me down :p
though they are releasing EPS12V compliant supplies soon with either common or split rail configuration read 3 or 4 +12V rails respectively)
 
cornelious0_0 said:
Ditto, even though time is tight you've really got me thinking about PCP&C again. If not that then it's good to know that the NeoPower may still serve me well. We'll see, maybe I can make something work for the PCP&C 510. :cool:
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Corn, I have a PCP&C 510 deluxe, and trust me, it is bar none the absolute best decision I have ever made regarding ANY componet of ANY computer I have had throughout the years. I would have reccomended it before but I didn't because I figured if you were looking at the OCZ you were looking for bling cheap. The pcp&c will annihilate the OCZ 600w, did you know that right on my unit it says max output 650w+ (the ocz 600w is max output 600w @ 40C)? It's a 660w unit with APFC and 1% line tolerances, fully BLACK sleeved cables and painted matte BLACK (I know your lian li is a black themed mod, right?). By all accounts it would be the perfect psu for you.

Plus corn, you've seen my systems, a 2.4C to 3.8ghz? An early run 3.0C to 4ghz? As Ice said, a serious overclocker will never complain about this psu. And you know Hipro from xtreme? Well here's a direct quote


To be honest.........I took a good look at it's circuit and I MUST confess that it's one of the BEST PSU out there.......VERY well sophisticated - very well designed - GOOD components on it happens all the time - as for the one that came in my hands ) - and VERY intelligent design too......All I have to say about it is that this PSU rocks big time......I wish I have a 700 watts unit of it if ever made......
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Plus they ship direct to Canada!
 
Dillusion said:
corn-nelly-oos0_0,

FYI the OCZ PSU's are made by TAGAN/E-Power, not Toppower, dont know where that guy pulled that name out.
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out of my ass :rolleyes:

just to let you know, Toppower MAKES Tagan/e-power supplies, they are known as something called an oem......


edit: oops Ice already said that, i dunno how I missed the big pic...
 
Plus they ship direct to Canada!
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That is true.......alright guys, you've got me.....

PCP&C it is, I guess I'll put off the PSU for awhile. I guess it's worth waiting for the absolute best PSU out there, even if it means holding off on maxing out my overclock for now. ;)

Now I'm getting all giddy. :D

Come on corn, say you are going with the PCP&C so this thread can die already
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It's done, and I am.....thank you everyone for bringing to light a number of things I apparently didn't know about the PSU market and how some of these things work. Also, thx for computerpro and Ice Czar for helping me realise that PCP&C is more then just an over glorified enthusiast power supply. :cool:
 
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now flatten the old one already so we can see it in glorious destruction...

or you will be consigned to speaking only h4><0r for a week!
 
motithejrt said:
wooohooo!! You are so weak, you converted!!
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/shrugs shoulders

eh, what can I say. :p

now flatten the old one already so we can see it in glorious destruction...
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Hold tight, as much as I DON'T want to have to face that kind of punishment, I need to round up the cash for the PCP&C, as I was only planning on spending $165 CDN + tax/shipping for the 520W OCZ, and the PCP&C is gonna be about $100 more by the looks of it.

The smash-time will come, just wait. :D
 
Instead of smashing it, why don't you post a thread in the for sale forum so someone who needs one can buy it off of you and you can absorb some of the hit of the cost of the new PSU?
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If you still insist, I say you smash the fucker while it's plugged in!
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starhawk said:
now that would be spectacular.
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Hehe, yeah...plug the thing into the wall outside and smash it to bits.....not quite the safest thing in the world to do but yeah. :p

I might just wait and sell it.....I gotta see exactly how much it'll be to pick up the 510W PCP&C. It might actually be cheaper for someone in the states to buy it and ship it to me. If anyone is willing to take payment a day or so in advance and could purchase the PSU and ship it to me it might end up saving me some cash. I'll check tonight and see what the Canadian end total would be doing it myself.
 
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