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eMachines to Gateway...

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Well, Gateway bought eMachines today, a deal worth $30 million dollars....

This puts eMachines under Gateway's wing of power, but current eM CEO becomes one of the top executives at Gateway...

Some of the pluses...More buying power equals cheaper parts...Gateway Products can now be sold at reatil stores like Best Buy and Wallmart...TV's, Camera's, and Printers, along with computers....

Minuses...We all know how Gateway computers are extremely inferior...

More info is out there, forgot to keep the link, lol, sorry...
 
damnit that means i can't recomend eMachines to people anymore. well more business for dell i guess:(
 
eMachines was starting to dig its way out of the hole it was born in. People on this board have recently had good experiences with their new customer support, and apparently, their laptops aren't half bad.
 
Their life story could be summed up like this...

They were the phoenix that rose from the ashes of another background just to get shot in the heart by Gateway...lol

The previous eMachines were a different company that had gone bankrupt...

Then their current, now past, CEO bought the name and put forth an entirely new company and scheme...

So, there's eMachine's life story...wrapped up in a nutshell
 
Originally posted by BillLeeLee
...and apparently, their laptops aren't half bad.
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That may be in part due to the fact that they don't actually make them.
 
$30 Mil is really not so much money for a computer company. Seems like they got a great deal.
 
Originally posted by RROMAN
$30 Mil is really not so much money for a computer company. Seems like they got a great deal.
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emachines has been making some very good systems lately, their desktops come with high end motherboards like MSI, their laptops (while not made by them directly) are still great and many would argue are probably the best around.

btw: it was 234 MILLION it was sold for, 30 million cash ;)

and while Gateway may have bought E-machines the new CEO of the company will be the previous E-machines CEO.
 
Originally posted by jpnelson83
So does this mean that Gateway crappiness will start to rub off on eMachines goodness?
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LOL... okay. Gateway has made some very questionable decisions with regards to components in the past. As far as I have had to repair/replace/service them in the past few years, they have been just fine. They use brand-name components, but use their proprietary cases, etc.

Many of you are using really old (2+ years) information to pass judgement on what these companies are doing now. They did make some *questionable* motherboard decisions when the early athlons came out (those things sucked shit!).

Gateway also has an excellent customer support program... never have been disappointed there.

Bash 'em all you want, but make sure you know what you are talking about.

-Skystalker
 
I've been a gateway customer multiple times and really had no problems with any of my stuff that I didn't cause myself. I had a heatsink problem in my solo 9500 but they fixed that, and my lcd (I sprayed corona all over it, silly me - i didn't even ask them to replace it) I just received my M675X the other day and am thoroughly impressed with this machine. I'd have to say the quality has gotten a lot better. And I'm not really the kind of guy that needs support but the 3 year warrenty always comes in handy. I don't know much about the emachines or whatever, but it can't be a bad deal all around I suppose.

J.
 
Originally posted by ScHpAnKy
That may be in part due to the fact that they don't actually make them.
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Very few companies make their own laptops - the majority are rebadged. also, don't hate on eMachines - they make great cheap computers, and unlike Dell, readily support AMD. A pleasure to deal with - I recommend them over all the others.
 
I know many people who have had tons of problems with both eMachines and Gateway computers... So with this merger, will my power supply catch on fire and burn out the 3rd world parts that came in a cow colored box? Shit mixed with roses still smells like shit :rolleyes:
 
I will never buy a Dell, HP/Compaq, Gateway, eMachines computer Their whole company model is to buy the cheapest parts available and sell it for the cheapest amount of money......so what are you buying? the cheapest parts available..I know people with gateways that have had their HDD's replaced 4 times in a year kind of thing!!!

now the only no-0name brand computer i would recommend would be a touch system and the only brand name is an IBM

Steve
 
Originally posted by stevieg
I will never buy a Dell, HP/Compaq, Gateway, eMachines computer Their whole company model is to buy the cheapest parts available and sell it for the cheapest amount of money......so what are you buying? the cheapest parts available..I know people with gateways that have had their HDD's replaced 4 times in a year kind of thing!!!

now the only no-0name brand computer i would recommend would be a touch system and the only brand name is an IBM

Steve
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Disagree. If a company has to support the product, they are going to find the best price/performance/reliability ratio. Tech support costs money-- especially good tech support. Troubleshooting, shipping costs, etc.

Oh, and with reference to IBM... I just have to say one thing-- DESK STAR Hard drives... (otherwise known as the infamous "deathstar"). IBM has had their fair share of issues and class-action lawsuits.

I hate it when people generalize.

Open up one of these boxes, and you know if it is shit or not pretty much right away. I am not saying they are all great, I am just saying they are not all bad.

-Skystalker
 
i have a 950mhz athlon tbird gateway, and it's dying, but it's lasted me the 3 years. if my dad let me open up the case and clean it out every once in a while, i bet it'd be running like a beaut. unless you've had a gateway/emachines/dell don't hate. "i've heard of people's hard drives failing 4 times in a year". you've HEARD it. the stock cd burner and dvd drives are both made my NEC, and i haven't heard THAT much bad stuff about NEC. we have yet to have a problem with this comp, and just because it doesn't live up to the enthusiast's dream, and it isn't DIY, doesn't mean it's a piece of crap.
 
Originally posted by stevieg
I will never buy a Dell, HP/Compaq, Gateway, eMachines computer Their whole company model is to buy the cheapest parts available and sell it for the cheapest amount of money......so what are you buying? the cheapest parts available..I know people with gateways that have had their HDD's replaced 4 times in a year kind of thing!!!

now the only no-0name brand computer i would recommend would be a touch system and the only brand name is an IBM

Steve
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eMachines, in their Athlon64 system, uses:

MSI mobo
Crucial RAM
Western Digital HD

So, if you wouldn't use those parts, what WOULD you use, eh? Learn before you speak. They cut cost by not including a lot of software...
 
Originally posted by MasterShredder
I know many people who have had tons of problems with both eMachines and Gateway computers... So with this merger, will my power supply catch on fire and burn out the 3rd world parts that came in a cow colored box? Shit mixed with roses still smells like shit :rolleyes:
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Old ones, not the new ones. The new emachines use all industry standard parts, normal cases/psus, etc. They are perfectly fine systems, and their laptops are about the best around right now.
 
Something you all have to realize:

There is a LOT of reorginization going on in this deal. There is a Mobile Computing thread on this alone...

Gateway wants to take eMachines ability to build low cost systems and sell to Government and Education. Gateway will sell ONLY through www and gateway stores.

Gateway want's to use the selling agreements eMachines has with BB, compusa, etc to sell their other things (tvs, portables, etc) there.

eMachines will continue to sell the way they have been, through retail, with more discounts now since parts are cheaper.

eMachines now runs Gateway, NOT the other way around. If ANYONE can resurrect Gateway, it's the CEO of eMachines. Really.
 
Originally posted by lopoetve
Old ones, not the new ones. The new emachines use all industry standard parts, normal cases/psus, etc. They are perfectly fine systems, and their laptops are about the best around right now.
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Yeah I realize that, but i'm the type of person who will never buy something again from a company ever again if i've had a problem with their stuff. Even if they shape up, then i'll still look elsewhere before I consider them.. Example: GE made a series of dishwashers and a friend of mine bought one. There was a problem with the pump or something like that in it and it was a known problem with GE. Now they had this huge thing about it and said "If you buy a new model GE dishwasher, we'll give you $100 rebate off of it. Otherwise you're screwed with the defective dishwasher." Well basically he said ok, bought the new dishwasher, then had to FIGHT to get that $100 rebate. They tried every excuse they could think of to not give him his money. Finally, 6 months later, he got the check. The best part? The new dishwashers had the exact same goddamn problem that the old ones did...

It's stuff like that, that really pisses me off when it comes to companies screwing up. Some people like Gateways and eMachines, that's fine. I'll build my own pc and know exactly what's in it.
 
Originally posted by MasterShredder
Yeah I realize that, but i'm the type of person who will never buy something again from a company ever again if i've had a problem with their stuff. Even if they shape up, then i'll still look elsewhere before I consider them.. Example: GE made a series of dishwashers and a friend of mine bought one. There was a problem with the pump or something like that in it and it was a known problem with GE. Now they had this huge thing about it and said "If you buy a new model GE dishwasher, we'll give you $100 rebate off of it. Otherwise you're screwed with the defective dishwasher." Well basically he said ok, bought the new dishwasher, then had to FIGHT to get that $100 rebate. They tried every excuse they could think of to not give him his money. Finally, 6 months later, he got the check. The best part? The new dishwashers had the exact same goddamn problem that the old ones did...

It's stuff like that, that really pisses me off when it comes to companies screwing up. Some people like Gateways and eMachines, that's fine. I'll build my own pc and know exactly what's in it.
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Oh, I'll never buy an eMachines desktop, but the laptops (Arima) rock. The point is, it isn't the same company, and even though I swore I'd never even work on another eMachines, I now OWN their 6805 laptop.
 
I was checkin out eMachines lappy's online. If I wasn't so poor I'd seriously consider getting the M6807. I'll have to keep my eye out for one of these guys locally. See if I can't find a better deal than $1550:)
 
This is pretty much the same as if Hyundai and Kia merged. All that shit under one hat instead of two.
 
Man i cant believe people are defending Gateway.
2 years ago my brother bought one even after i tried to convince him not to. Well after about a month it died due to a electrical storm. Anyways the surge protector didnt help it. It fried the MB, Ram and CPU. The Gateway store he bought it from said because it was a defaulty surge protector they werent going to cover it. Now this was only a month old and get this they wanted to charge him over $600 to fix it. The worst part is they sold him the surge protector also. I told him to go there everyday and complain loudly and make sure its a time when they have a few customers. After a few days they eventually decided to fix it for free.
 
are gateway and gateway2000 the same?
why did they change names etc if so?

I always though Gateway machines were kickass, i would buy them over dell. I have a gateway laptop, that thing runs smoooooth (even more smooth after I reinstalled my own stuff).

E-machines did suck a while ago, like terribly suck.
 
I hope this means that eMachine's support of the Athlon 64 will finally allow it to go up against Dell...and really, like it or not, Dell, Gateway, and eMachines all make high quality machines. To some extent you pay for extra crap, but I have never had any problems with the Dell and Gateway systems I have owned. In fact, the Gateway we bought in 1996 came with a support plan that gives me phone support for 25 YEARS! That computer has been in storage for 2 years, but I can still call them up, and, unlike Dell, they are knowledgeable.

And randyc, I think Gateway2000 changed to Gateway after the whole "year 2000 being a big thing" passed.
 
Hey,

There are good stories as well as bad stories from ALL "manufacturers." A fried computer as a result of an electrical storm could have easily happened to a home-built system... which doesn't have a warranty at all. An electrial storm is not the best way to judge the quality of a company. NO computer/surge protector can handle 25,000 volts and live to tell about it. Lightning is a beast.

Gateways don't necessarily go bad... the stuff inside the case could go bad... hard drives crap out, video cards stop working, PCI modems fry... Components can go bad in ANY system...

But I've known tons of people with all brands of computers where nothing ever goes wrong.

If you wander the aisles of your favorite electronics store... you'll see plenty of what you might conside crappy computers... HP, Compaq, eMachines... but the truth is, they are selling a $hitload of computers to people who just need a machine to surf the web.

People buy Kias and Hyundias because they can't build their own car from scratch. Not everyone can build a computer and fill it with the best components ever made.

Sony Vaios use the same Intel motherboards, processors and WD hard drives as every other manufacturer. They just put them in a purple case. Does that make them better/worse?

I think what determines a good product is satisfied customers and repeat buyers. I know tons of people who stick with Gateway, because all they have to do is call and give them their Client ID #, and they can order parts, arrange repair or exchange, or anything. They feel comfortable with the cow.

I don't know anyone who would be comfortable dropping off their Compaq at the "service" desk at Best Buy, staffed with part-time, minimum wage workers.

Bottomline... Computers are tricky devices, where the majority of users don't know the difference between a good computer or a bad computer. Power users, like those who read [H]ard Forums, probably won't buy an eMachine or Gateway at all.

However, I've used an eMachine Celeron 466 for a long time... Maybe I got one of the few "good" ones. Who knows. There were 140 million computer sold last year... I'm sure a few computers from each manufacturer had problems.
 
Originally posted by djnes
This is pretty much the same as if Hyundai and Kia merged. All that shit under one hat instead of two.
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Right...

Quality standards change. Companies can get better. Read the reviews on the latest Hyundai SUV's and cars.
 
NOOOOOO :mad: I hope this doesn't affect the price vs. quality of eMachines as the company i work for recomends eMachiens to most of our clinets and they have all been extremely pleased with them as well as their customer support. I hope Gateway doesn't mess this one up! I'd hate to have to refer people back to Dell's crap ass computers and service againt :(

eMachines...don't do me wrong here!
 
Originally posted by lopoetve
Right...

Quality standards change. Companies can get better. Read the reviews on the latest Hyundai SUV's and cars.
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The new Hyundai's are the shit, especailly for the price. My mom bought one in 2001, the Santa Fe, and the thing was worth every penny we paid, especailly with the warranty it comes with.
 
hehehe, the first car accident I got into was with a Hyundai Accent(Hyundai=Honda wannabe). I rearended it, put a couple scratches in the bumber. Most likely the buffed right out. Anyway the clincher is that it only had some 45 miles on it. RIGHT OFF THE LOT BABY!!!
 
Originally posted by SB22
NOOOOOO :mad: I hope this doesn't affect the price vs. quality of eMachines as the company i work for recomends eMachiens to most of our clinets and they have all been extremely pleased with them as well as their customer support. I hope Gateway doesn't mess this one up! I'd hate to have to refer people back to Dell's crap ass computers and service againt :(

eMachines...don't do me wrong here!
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eMachines is running Gateway. I don't think you have to worry.
 
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