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Emachines gaming system?

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I am thinking of purchasing an emachines T6412 and upgrading video card and ram.

http://www.emachines.com/products/products.html?prod=eMachines_T6412

The wierd thing about this is it only has a 300 watt power supply and most video cards need a 350 watt power supply.

I looked on the product page for emachines approved power supplies, and the 350 watt supply is 60 dollars, and the 300 watt supply is 55 dollars.

What the hell is wrong with emachines, why would they give you a PCI-Express 16 video card upgrade option, but not spend 5 dollars more on PSU so the customer doesn't have to spend 60 dollars for 50 watt more power supply?


Oh, Is it necesary to buy special "emachines Ram" and a "emachines powersupply" or can i just use any ddr pc 3200 400mhz ram? and any power supply?

I am thinking of buying 1 gig of ram, but what i read something about the dual channel ram won't work unless they are identical, do i have to get the same brand and size to make them dual channel capable?


There is a really good deal for a 17 inch sharp monitor, normally over $250USD , an epson all in one printer, usually over $80 USD, and a emachines t6412 usually 600 USD for $580 USD after rebates. or $690 Canadian dollars. it's at futureshop.ca, they advertise it off and on it seems.

Would this be a good cheap way to start a gaming machine.

Also, what top of the line video card would run well ona 350watt power supply, because i don't think gateway has a 400 watt power supply.futureshop.ca
 
thanks.

So you need to have exact same size and make of ram to make dual channel work?

So i have to buy an "infineon 512 ddr400 ram stick" to make it work? I couldn't buy a 1gig stick of corsair pc 3200 400mhz?


So, emachines was bullshitting me about the power supply, you can just buy normal powersupply for 40 bucks instead of their overpriced ones for 60 dollars.

Now i can add any video card if i can just put that 430 watt supply in... maybe i will add a extra fan or some sort of extra cooling device too.

So, i think when that t6412 comes on sale i'll buy that powersupply u
 
you don't have to have matching ram,but it is recommended.i added another stick of 512 to my sons machine and it worked fine.
 
eMachines uses (based on the last 4 bought in my lab over the last 2 years) standard ATX components. This means that you can buy any standard off the rack ATX part and it should work fine. I took a glance at the product you mention and the case appears to be a mid-tower, so it is likely that any standard ATX PS will fit in the case. Sometimes this can be a problem if the case is a "custom" design.

As for your memory, yes it needs to be the same size (512Mb). As to the brand and density, different boards allow different degrees of flexibility in the memory as to whether they will work in dual-channel or not. It is best to get as close to the same memory as possible to help ensure compatability of one of these OEM boards. I couldn't find any info on the exact model (T6412), but Crucial's memory configurator does have the T6410 listed. As that is a very similar product, the specifications for it should match those of the 6412. The memory is listed as:

512Mb DDR PC3200 • CL=3 • UNBUFFERED • NON-ECC • DDR400 • 2.6V • 64Meg x 64

In order to play it safe, I'd just buy a stick that matched that as closely as possible.

GL
 
In the past, I've done a lot of work on some seriously *CRAP* eMachines when they were still a Korean brand. Lots of shoddy parts, AMR cards, and proprietary pieces back in those days. Since they were bought out by Gateway however, they have started making ATX standard parts and have significantly improved their image. They use the same customer service / Tech support as Gateway now and that is a MAJOR improvement even though it is still somewhat shoddy at times. Because they offer many "bargain" packages that come with A64s and a good selection of peripherals, they are much more popular among gamers looking to get a good system. Dell does have bargain systems, but these often have low-end parts as well as only offering Intel. I think it fair to say that most people who are only looking at gaming realize that they get much more bang for their buck with AMD.

As for going with a boutique or micro-builder, I'd say it's definitely worth looking around. The problem is many of these eMachines are sold in major discount or electronics chains and can often be found for amazingly low prices. Very few DIY or boutique stores can get you the same parts (regardless of quality) for these low prices. It wasn't that long ago (end of October) that HP offered this:

AMD Athlon 64 3200+, 512MB DDR, gigabit NIC, Radeon 9600 Video, 80GB SATA, 48x CDROM, Windows XP Pro, 3 Year Warranty

for $495. You would be hard pressed to find a deal that matched this for a lower price even if you built the system yourself and didn't have any kind of warranty. The XP Pro alone takes up a major chunk of that cash.
 
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