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i'm going to college and such.

what do you guys think of an A.O.S. degree compared to an A.A.S. degree?

heard of it?

the aos degree i will have in computer information technology and networking systems.

or go to a comminuty college and get an aas in networking technology, then 2-3 years to get a B.S. in Computer Science.

this is vague i know.

how would employers look at the aos degree?
 
Associate in Occupational Science? I had to look it up and that seems to be the most likely anwser.

Can I assume that both the AOS and the AAS are basically vocational in nature? Trade school style degree programs? If so I think that most employers, once they figure out what the terms mean) will look at both of them very much the same.
 
my assoc was in Applied Science --> Computer Network Technology Cisco Option :eek:

Long arse name i know
 
debaser_ said:
Whats an AOS degree anyways?
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associates of occupational studies

i just want to make sure i'm choosing the right path on which i choose. one of those 90 week career schools.

the other option is a comminuty technical school thus getting an aas degree in networking, information tech or build repair, then keep going to get all 3. or i could go to this private one and supposedly get everything i need to know. hardware, software and networks. a+ cert, cisco, net+ etc.
 
I work at a MSP as a lead DBA managing 3 guys in NYC and 25 in bangalore india. I conduct 10-20 interviews per week, primarily over the telephone to india. I only meet someone in person if we're about to hire them for our NY, CA, or UK offices. So you know where I come from.

Most certs are basically worthless. The only ones we care about are OCM (oracle certified master) and CCNA (cisco certification). MSCE, OCP (oracle cert professional), all that brainbench stuff, that's all worthless garbage. They only guarantee a minimum level of competence and are nothing compared to experience. CCNA is actually really tough to complete and almost nobody gets the OCM cert due to its length, so they have some value to us. We do look for a bachelor's degree, but experience counts much, much more.

Things that impress me are:

1) Arrogance. True jedi master professionals are extremely confident in their abilities. Of course if you're arrogant and don't know what you're talking about, that's not good, so be humble if you're a low level guy.
2) Skillset. Obviously you need to have the skills required. But I can tell that in 5 minutes.
3) Drive. This covers all kinds of stuff. If you've written magazine articles, given talks about your speciality, have your own IT-specific website, wrote a bunch of shell scripts to do various stuff, setup monitoring like nagios or grid at your previous job on your own initiative, stuff like that.
4) Self-reliance. I *love* it when I ask some esoteric question and the guy tells me "I would never remember that, I'd just look it up on metalink and get an answer in 2 seconds". The ability to read manuals and figure shit out on your own is absolutely critical.

Just my 2 cents.

edit: I actually meant this for the interview thread. Well it still kinda applies here too.
 
schizo said:
The ability to read manuals and figure shit out on your own is absolutely critical.
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O'Reilly has always been the answer to those types of questions for me. :)
 
-(Xyphox)- said:
my assoc was in Applied Science --> Computer Network Technology Cisco Option :eek:

Long arse name i know
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Sure it was. Time to change the sig there bud. Exposed and outed.
 
Well,I can tell you ahve about 5-6 years of computer experience ( with no formal education ), and I just beat out a number of people with BS degrees in Computer science ( one had a double major ).

It's all about experience in most of the work place. Now, I'm not saying don't go to school; GO! But make sure you get computer jobs to round that degree out with practical application of the knowledge. Because I can almost guarantee; If you are fresh out of college with no experience and you are going up against folks like me with experience, you will be at a disadvantage right off the bat.
 
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