Easiest way to avoid Win10?

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OEM said:
Dumbing down?
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I'm old school... Just a few off the top of my head. Mostly minor annoyances.

* UAC. I get the idea though.
* "Fake" Administrator account. I'm an 'administrator', but if I have to right-click "run as administrator" to really run as administrator, I'm not an administrator. I get the idea why though.
* Overly simplified interface.
* Auto-play on plug.
* Hiding file associations. I name my files for what they are, not the program that the file was created in.
* Chicken little panic because of no approved resident anti-virus. Shut up action center.
* Your computer is busy, lets turn off Aero for you. How about leaving stuff alone, and not nagging me when I'm trying to work. Did I put a ring on your finger? no? Then shut-up windows.
* Auto-eject cd when I accidentally click on "removeable devices". Uh, windows, my optical is behind a door and that constant *smack* gets old. Did I tell you to eject? No? good.

If there was a setting when installing windows that had "I know what I'm doing & know my way around computers, turn off all crap and don't try to be Overly Attached Helpful OS" would be awesome. Yes, I know several of these can be turned off or worked around.

I apologize if I sound a little confrontational, its not my intention. I'm on a lot of cold & allergy meds.
 
MGCJerry said:
I'm old school... Just a few off the top of my head. Mostly minor annoyances.

* UAC. I get the idea though.
* "Fake" Administrator account. I'm an 'administrator', but if I have to right-click "run as administrator" to really run as administrator, I'm not an administrator. I get the idea why though.
* Overly simplified interface.
* Auto-play on plug.
* Hiding file associations. I name my files for what they are, not the program that the file was created in.
* Chicken little panic because of no approved resident anti-virus. Shut up action center.
* Your computer is busy, lets turn off Aero for you. How about leaving stuff alone, and not nagging me when I'm trying to work. Did I put a ring on your finger? no? Then shut-up windows.
* Auto-eject cd when I accidentally click on "removeable devices". Uh, windows, my optical is behind a door and that constant *smack* gets old. Did I tell you to eject? No? good.

If there was a setting when installing windows that had "I know what I'm doing & know my way around computers, turn off all crap and don't try to be Overly Attached Helpful OS" would be awesome. Yes, I know several of these can be turned off or worked around.

I apologize if I sound a little confrontational, its not my intention. I'm on a lot of cold & allergy meds.
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Much of this configurable, Auto Play and extensions for example.
 
MGCJerry said:
I'm old school... Just a few off the top of my head. Mostly minor annoyances.

* UAC. I get the idea though.
* "Fake" Administrator account. I'm an 'administrator', but if I have to right-click "run as administrator" to really run as administrator, I'm not an administrator. I get the idea why though.
* Overly simplified interface.
* Auto-play on plug.
* Hiding file associations. I name my files for what they are, not the program that the file was created in.
* Chicken little panic because of no approved resident anti-virus. Shut up action center.
* Your computer is busy, lets turn off Aero for you. How about leaving stuff alone, and not nagging me when I'm trying to work. Did I put a ring on your finger? no? Then shut-up windows.
* Auto-eject cd when I accidentally click on "removeable devices". Uh, windows, my optical is behind a door and that constant *smack* gets old. Did I tell you to eject? No? good.

If there was a setting when installing windows that had "I know what I'm doing & know my way around computers, turn off all crap and don't try to be Overly Attached Helpful OS" would be awesome. Yes, I know several of these can be turned off or worked around.

I apologize if I sound a little confrontational, its not my intention. I'm on a lot of cold & allergy meds.
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You didn't hurt my feelings, but you did make me laugh. You can turn almost all the annoying crap off. I get you could make the argument that you shouldn't have to turn it off, but not everyone knows their way around computers.
 
OEM said:
You didn't hurt my feelings, but you did make me laugh. You can turn almost all the annoying crap off. I get you could make the argument that you shouldn't have to turn it off, but not everyone knows their way around computers.
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He's old school, but would rather complain than turn it off, once. :D
At least you can turn most of it off, unlike some of the crap foisted on us by W10.
 
Avoiding 10 is not difficult at all. All I did is disable 'Give me recommended updates the same way I receive important updates' from Windows Update and ran this bat file:

Code: 
REG ADD "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Gwx" /v DisableGWX /d 1 /f
REG ADD "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate" /v DisableOSUpgrade /d 1 /f
REG ADD "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\WindowsUpdate\OSUpgrade" /v AllowOSUpgrade /d 0 /f
REG ADD "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\WindowsUpdate\OSUpgrade" /v ReservationsAllowed /d 0 /f
TASKKILL /IM GWX.exe /T /F

start /wait wusa /uninstall /kb:3035583 /quiet /norestart /log
start /wait wusa /uninstall /kb:3035583 /quiet /norestart /log
exit
No more GWX.

SOURCE
 
MGCJerry said:
I'm old school... Just a few off the top of my head. Mostly minor annoyances.

* UAC. I get the idea though.
* "Fake" Administrator account. I'm an 'administrator', but if I have to right-click "run as administrator" to really run as administrator, I'm not an administrator. I get the idea why though.
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All of these annoyances can be *fixed* one way or another. For example with the above annoyance, use the command to enable the real hidden admin account and then password protect it, log into admin account and change your fake admin user account to a limited user account. Now use the limited account for everyday use and if you need admin rights to do anything you will be asked to enter the admin password, or you can login to the real admin account to do admin stuff. Fixed!

enable - Net user administrator /active:yes

disable - Net user administrator /active:no
 
rezerekted said:
All of these annoyances can be *fixed* one way or another. For example with the above annoyance, use the command to enable the real hidden admin account and then password protect it, log into admin account and change your fake admin user account to a limited user account. Now use the limited account for everyday use and if you need admin rights to do anything you will be asked to enter the admin password, or you can login to the real admin account to do admin stuff. Fixed!

enable - Net user administrator /active:yes

disable - Net user administrator /active:no
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It is best to leave the administrator account disabled unless you must use it for a very specific reason. (Example: Windows 7 repair installation must take place is that account.) Otherwise, it would be the same as always having root access on a Linux machine which would be bad as well. Security trumps "convenience" every single time.
 
So I have read but no one has root access unless they know the root password and that is how I want it. I use the limited user account which is more secure than Microsoft's fake admin account with UAC and to do any admin tasks you have to enter the admin password and not just click through UAC prompts that no one ever reads. My PC run the way I want and not Microsoft's.
 
rezerekted said:
So I have read but no one has root access unless they know the root password and that is how I want it. I use the limited user account which is more secure than Microsoft's fake admin account with UAC and to do any admin tasks you have to enter the admin password and not just click through UAC prompts that no one ever reads. My PC run the way I want and not Microsoft's.
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What you just explained has nothing to do with how you or Microsoft wants your computer to run or not. Also, the account is not fake no matter how you try to define it. Now, I assume you still have that "fake" account available and it is what you use as an admin account, right?
 
MGCJerry said:
I'm old school... Just a few off the top of my head. Mostly minor annoyances.

* UAC. I get the idea though.
* "Fake" Administrator account. I'm an 'administrator', but if I have to right-click "run as administrator" to really run as administrator, I'm not an administrator. I get the idea why though.
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You get the idea but still hate it. Ok, turn it off.
* Overly simplified interface.
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Generic complaint, meaningless without context.

* Auto-play on plug.
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Disable it in Control Panel. It even asks you the first time you connect something.

* Hiding file associations. I name my files for what they are, not the program that the file was created in.
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Enable file extentions in Folder Options.

* Chicken little panic because of no approved resident anti-virus. Shut up action center.
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It comes with AV now, and you can turn off messages.

* Your computer is busy, lets turn off Aero for you. How about leaving stuff alone, and not nagging me when I'm trying to work. Did I put a ring on your finger? no? Then shut-up windows.
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No idea what you're even talking about here.

* Auto-eject cd when I accidentally click on "removeable devices". Uh, windows, my optical is behind a door and that constant *smack* gets old. Did I tell you to eject? No? good.
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Yes, you did tell it to eject. You just got done telling us that you did.

If there was a setting when installing windows that had "I know what I'm doing & know my way around computers, turn off all crap and don't try to be Overly Attached Helpful OS" would be awesome. Yes, I know several of these can be turned off or worked around.
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Spend the 60 seconds required to set all the options I just described.
 
ManofGod said:
What you just explained has nothing to do with how you or Microsoft wants your computer to run or not. Also, the account is not fake no matter how you try to define it. Now, I assume you still have that "fake" account available and it is what you use as an admin account, right?
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No, I converted that account to a limited user account and UAC is still enabled. When I need admin access then I am prompted to enter the admin password from in the limited user account. Just to move a shortcut in the StartMenu you need to know the admin password. If I want to change firewall settings or do disk management or anything similar then I get prompted to enter the admin password, just like on Linux and the way it should be done.

Anyway, it matters not anymore because I have now installed Elementary OS so Windows is just my game machine now, that is how much Microsoft have annoyed me with their aggressive push to Win10.
 
rezerekted said:
No, I converted that account to a limited user account and UAC is still enabled. When I need admin access then I am prompted to enter the admin password from in the limited user account. Just to move a shortcut in the StartMenu you need to know the admin password. If I want to change firewall settings or do disk management or anything similar then I get prompted to enter the admin password, just like on Linux and the way it should be done.

Anyway, it matters not anymore because I have now installed Elementary OS so Windows is just my game machine now, that is how much Microsoft have annoyed me with their aggressive push to Win10.
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So, what is the user name of the admin account then? I hope it is not the full administrator account because, if it ever gets disabled, you are screwed.
 
I'm not telling you the username but it is not default. You can't disable the full admin account either. I can hide it and make it not active again if I want but not disable it. Posting this from Linux, ta-ta. :)
 
rezerekted said:
I'm not telling you the username but it is not default. You can't disable the full admin account either. I can hide it and make it not active again if I want but not disable it. Posting this from Linux, ta-ta. :)
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Well, I did not expect you to tell me the username itself. However, the administrator account is disabled by default since Vista was launched. Essentially, you are not using the default administrator account which is a good thing, just like not using the root account in Linux is best as well.
 
Disable windows updates.
Install Linux.

As a side note, call ms every time you get a popup and complain. Don't waste time, doit on speakerphone while doing dishes, mowing the lawn, etc. But flood them with complaints. If enough people do this it will cost them so much in personnel staffing they will drop it.
 
All the replies to my complaints... Yes I know you can turn them off. I have them off hence my signature.

BTW:
* Editing file associations is not in Control Panel -> Folder Options
* Aero likes reverting to basic when my GPU is busy (BOINC, a game, or 3d program), and it never remembers my settings.
* Clicking on text that says "devices with removable storage" kind of seems weird to make all devices eject simultaneously.
* Windows 7 Administrator account is named "Administrator". Run "net user administrator /active:yes" from an "elevated" command prompt. Logout and now you can login as "real" Administrator. I can only assume its something similar for Win10. I don't know though.
 
ManofGod said:
Well, I did not expect you to tell me the username itself. However, the administrator account is disabled by default since Vista was launched. Essentially, you are not using the default administrator account which is a good thing, just like not using the root account in Linux is best as well.
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Yes, I am not using it unless essential to do something. My limited user account is more secure than the standard Windows account, by far. I even had one of those bad sites attempt to encrypt my HDD and it couldn't do squat.
 
MGCJerry said:
All the replies to my complaints... Yes I know you can turn them off. I have them off hence my signature.

BTW:
* Editing file associations is not in Control Panel -> Folder Options
* Aero likes reverting to basic when my GPU is busy (BOINC, a game, or 3d program), and it never remembers my settings.
* Clicking on text that says "devices with removable storage" kind of seems weird to make all devices eject simultaneously.
* Windows 7 Administrator account is named "Administrator". Run "net user administrator /active:yes" from an "elevated" command prompt. Logout and now you can login as "real" Administrator. I can only assume its something similar for Win10. I don't know though.
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Associations? Control Panel/Default Programs/File Associations

Through various tests I could never get "Devices with Removable Storage" eject anything when clicked on. All it does is select all devices if you click it directly. The only way it would eject is if you right clicked and selected Eject from the context menu.
 
looks like MS has started pushing a new W10 pop-up update through today- KB3123862...so is this the same as KB3035583?...either way I'm hiding KB3123862 until more info is known
 
Just uncheck "install recommended updates" and you should only get the security updates and none of the optional/recommended crap.
 
I can't believe all the crap I have to go through not to get something I don't want....
You can turn off the auto download but you still have to check every one and see if its a potential installer/crap........
 
polonyc2 said:
looks like MS has started pushing a new W10 pop-up update through today- KB3123862...so is this the same as KB3035583?...either way I'm hiding KB3123862 until more info is known
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Yep. New Windows 10 nagware. Seems like every few days they publish the same old nagware trojan under a new KB #. I've seen "please enter your credit card to remove virus from your PC" ransomware that is less persistent and obnoxious than this.

What is MS's endgame - do they really believe people will just get tired of blocking new nagware KB's every week and throw their arms up? Pathetic. And to think there are clowns around here that actually defend this shit.
 
DPI said:
Yep. New Windows 10 nagware. Seems like every few days they publish the same old nagware trojan under a new KB #. I've seen "please enter your credit card to remove virus from your PC" ransomware that is less persistent and obnoxious than this.

What is MS's endgame - do they really believe people will just get tired of blocking new nagware KB's every week and throw their arms up? Pathetic. And to think there are clowns around here that actually defend this shit.
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MS actually was pretty good with keeping the W10 pop-up nagware update with the same KB#- KB3035583...they would re-release it every few months but under the same #...but now they're getting really shady and releasing the same or similar nagware under a different KB
 
I am not getting this Win10 recommended update but I enabled an option in GPedit to not allow OS upgrade so maybe that is why,
 
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