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Early Fermi Benchmarks

RADEoN said:
Now I hope Fermi offers a competitive product at a great price, and they sell like hotcakes so we all win, whether we like nVidia or AMD, prices will come down. That's a win for all of us.
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QFT.

All that matters is competition in the market place to drive prices down and force companies to make better products. And we just haven't had any competition, at all, recently.
 
RADEoN said:
I've been down the fanboy/brand worship road before. Only got me lacking products. Now I hope Fermi offers a competitive product at a great price, and they sell like hotcakes so we all win, whether we like nVidia or AMD, prices will come down. That's a win for all of us.

Getting into internet rage benchmark speculation won't do anything for the actual benchmark and performance of the product. Let's just hope these are true.
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The lower the better because I need three! And an i7-980x. Gonna be an exspensive month.
 
They are showing all the benchmarks that are VRAM dependant (huge resolutions). When the 2GB 5870 comes out, it will better these numbers by quite a margin IMO.
 
RamonGTP said:
lol... NEED 3 or WANT 3? ;)
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Well I plan on having at a minimum 3 1920 x 1200 monitors and it looks like this new wave of games, BC2, Metro 2033, etc. is going to need multi-GPUs for this. Though technically that's still a want.;)
 
There are some wrong facts about those numbers, PCB lengths being one. 5870 PCB length is 10.5".
I'm going to wait like the others for credible reviewers to get this card.
 
WorldExclusive said:
There are some wrong facts about those numbers, PCB lengths being one. 5870 PCB length is 10.5".
I'm going to wait like the others for credible reviewers to get this card.
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Donuts to dollars that all of this is pretty close though there's always something off here and there in these types of leaks.
 
heatlesssun said:
Well I plan on having at a minimum 3 1920 x 1200 monitors and it looks like this new wave of games, BC2, Metro 2033, etc. is going to need multi-GPUs for this. Though technically that's still a want.;)
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why waste money on 3 480 GTX's, when you can buy 4 5870's for around the same price and get more perforamce?
 
DASHlT said:
why waste money on 3 480 GTX's, when you can buy 4 5870's for around the same price and get more perforamce?
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I doubt that this is true overall simply because 4x scaling is even worse than 3x and at the level of performance we're talking about with these setups it's unlikely it matters in the real world anyway.
 
heatlesssun said:
I doubt that this is true overall simply because 4x scaling is even worse than 3x and at the level of performance we're talking about with these setups it's unlikely it matters in the real world anyway.
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But if you buy 3 5870's you save enough money from not purchasing the 3 480 gtx's, to buy another 5870.

I mean why not go all out on better performance then?
 
RamonGTP said:
Heat is an nVidia man IIRC. I believe he's currently running 3 285s
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3 280s. And they have served me VERY well. With the i7-980x coming it's build time for me and my budget this time will allow me to pretty much put everything in this build but an SSD which I'm putting off for now. I don't think there's much doubt that the 480 will be the best single chip GPU on the market when it launches so that's what I'm going with. The issue that concerns me most is multi-monitor support under SLI.

But if the 5870 were better I'd buy it, I've bought plenty of AMD/ATI tech in the past so its not an issue for me. I simply want the best that I can afford.
 
DASHlT said:
I mean why not go all out on better performance then?
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That's the idea. I'll check up on 4x Crossfire benchmarks but my gut tells me that 3x 480 will be better overall than 4x 5870. But I have no way to know that right now.

But also I want to but a CableCard tuner in this rig, and that's now 9 slots were talking about, so that's REAL problem.

In fact I'm having a hard time trying to find even an 8 slot case that I like and KNOW will work. I'm even thinking about getting the Thermaltake Level 10 because of its 8 slots.

I'm trying to be a rig that does EVERYTHING well only the compromise of no SSD, at least for now. It's actually proving to be pretty tricky.
 
LOL at the guy who posted in the comments below, boasting about how he predicted the 15% increase in performance over the 5870. What a genius.
 
RamonGTP said:
Two six pin connectors are nothing new really. 5850, 5870 and 5970 all have them.
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But the GTX 285 didn't. The 275 did, but it was kind of a gimped card. I was expecting the GTX 480 to have an 8-pin and a 6-pin.

That was a picture of the 480 wasn't it? Or was I looking at a picture of the lesser card?
 
heatlesssun said:
That's the idea. I'll check up on 4x Crossfire benchmarks but my gut tells me that 3x 480 will be better overall than 4x 5870. But I have no way to know that right now.

But also I want to but a CableCard tuner in this rig, and that's now 9 slots were talking about, so that's REAL problem.

In fact I'm having a hard time trying to find even an 8 slot case that I like and KNOW will work. I'm even thinking about getting the Thermaltake Level 10 because of its 8 slots.

I'm trying to be a rig that does EVERYTHING well only the compromise of no SSD, at least for now. It's actually proving to be pretty tricky.
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True. But I mean I would be SHOCKED if 4 5870's don't beat a 480 GTX.

I mean I expect 1 5890 to beat 480 easily....which is why i say 4 5870's would easily beat 3 480 gtx's.

Of course we need real honest reviews to come out.

HURRY UP MARCH 26th!!!
 
WabeWalker said:
But the GTX 285 didn't. The 275 did, but it was kind of a gimped card. I was expecting the GTX 480 to have an 8-pin and a 6-pin.

That was a picture of the 480 wasn't it? Or was I looking at a picture of the lesser card?
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Look at the first 480 picture in the link in the first post at the very top. Its connectors are partially obscured but you can easily see the 480 has both 6 and 8 pin connectors. And the 470 has two 6's.
 
DASHlT said:
True. But I mean I would be SHOCKED if 4 5870's don't beat a 480 GTX.

I mean I expect 1 5890 to beat 480 easily....which is why i say 4 5870's would easily beat 3 480 gtx's.

Of course we need real honest reviews to come out.

HURRY UP MARCH 26th!!!
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When you have to scale 4 cards nothing is going to come easy. Looking at what's leaking thus far the 480 is going to put a bit of hurting on the 5970 when it comes to things like tessellation, at least in a synthetic benchmark.

The 480 isn't a 5970 killer for sure. But the reverse is true as well. As long as the 480 comes in at $600 or less I'll be happy. Just hope the gouging isn't crazy and the supply super tight. I'm holding off on new games until I get the new rig togther.
 
heatlesssun said:
When you have to scale 4 cards nothing is going to come easy. Looking at what's leaking thus far the 480 is going to put a bit of hurting on the 5970 when it comes to things like tessellation, at least in a synthetic benchmark.

The 480 isn't a 5970 killer for sure. But the reverse is true as well. As long as the 480 comes in at $600 or less I'll be happy. Just hope the gouging isn't crazy and the supply super tight. I'm holding off on new games until I get the new rig togther.
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yea I mean it might as well be worth it to wait for Fermi in the summertime when availably will be a lil more....Non gouged? lol

either way I am interested as well. Specially considering since I plan to go Multi-monitor gaming in april...Really interested to see how Fermi does.
 
heatlesssun said:
Look at the first 480 picture in the link in the first post at the very top. Its connectors are partially obscured but you can easily see the 480 has both 6 and 8 pin connectors. And the 470 has two 6's.
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Some of the pictures weren't appearing for me - but thanks for that. I was expecting a six pin and an eight pin for the 480.
 
DASHlT said:
Specially considering since I plan to go Multi-monitor gaming in april...Really interested to see how Fermi does.
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As I said earlier this is my biggest concern as well. But I'm pretty much now in find and buy mode and it'll be sometime before we see solid multi-GPU multi-monitor benchmarks so unless something disturbing comes out in the next two weeks the GTX 480 will be my next three GPUs.
 
5870-1gb-driver-comp.jpg

http://www.widescreengamingforum.co...arking_-_Radeon_HD_5870_1GB_Driver_Comparison

according to these guys the 5850 with 10.3 drivers is as fast or faster than the 5870 with 9.11 . The 5870 blows past its old self and the 5850 10.3s when it has the 10.3s
 
Why is everything so obscure, some benchmarks refer to the models as 4x0 instead of specific 470 or 480 models, some of them simply say which cards win each test but not give numbers.

Basically the small bit of information I can get out of this is that the 470 loses to the 5870 and the 480 is slightly faster, and about 50% at tesselation heavy applications. It doesn't sound like that have anything that can beat a 5970 in basic benchmarks.

I can't wait for [H]ardocp to get their hands on these cards and just set the record straight.
 
PrincessFrosty said:
Why is everything so obscure, some benchmarks refer to the models as 4x0 instead of specific 470 or 480 models, some of them simply say which cards win each test but not give numbers.

Basically the small bit of information I can get out of this is that the 470 loses to the 5870 and the 480 is slightly faster, and about 50% at tesselation heavy applications. It doesn't sound like that have anything that can beat a 5970 in basic benchmarks.

I can't wait for [H]ardocp to get their hands on these cards and just set the record straight.
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If you look at those relative performance percentages at the top of the review they pretty much say what you just said.
 
I'm wondering, these are the powers of the GTX 480\470, and are very powerful, so is there going to be a Dual GPU card, like the GTX295? Maybe a GTX495? That'd be a kickass lol
 
TeeJay said:
I'm wondering, these are the powers of the GTX 480\470, and are very powerful, so is there going to be a Dual GPU card, like the GTX295? Maybe a GTX495? That'd be a kickass lol
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Considering the 480 GTX is REALLY close to the maximum Watts it can run on a PCI-E slot.

I would say NO to an 480x2 part
 
Absolutely impossible on the current die without a shrink, for two GTX 480's on one PCB. The single card already exceeds the pci-e specification.
 
ShuttleLuv said:
Absolutely impossible on the current die without a shrink, for two GTX 480's on one PCB. The single card already exceeds the pci-e specification.
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True, unless it's significantly underclocked.

One other option may be to have the card use three power connectors, but that would kind of be ricdickulous.
 
harmattan said:
True, unless it's significantly underclocked.

One other option may be to have the card use three power connectors, but that would kind of be ricdickulous.
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The issue isn't getting power to the card, the issue is keeping the card within PCIe spec. They can easily supply the card with power using three connectors but it would still be out of spec
 
WabeWalker said:
But the GTX 285 didn't. The 275 did, but it was kind of a gimped card. I was expecting the GTX 480 to have an 8-pin and a 6-pin.

That was a picture of the 480 wasn't it? Or was I looking at a picture of the lesser card?
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The Nvidia 275 GTX was a gimped card? Before I moved to my 5870's...those 275's served me really well playing at 1920 x 1080. I was getting mad framerates on all my games that I played.
 
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