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E0 E8400/8500 from NewEgg?

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Dra

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Hey guys, gonna get the E8400 soon from NewEgg. How likely is it that it will be the new E0 stepping? Since it's been out for a while now, is it pretty safe to assume that it will be E0? Or is there still going to be some luck involved?

Also on another side note, is there any compelling reason to go for the E8500 over the E8400 w/ the ~$20 difference?
 
Dra said:
Also on another side note, is there any compelling reason to go for the E8500 over the E8400 w/ the ~$20 difference?
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I kind of depends on what you plan to do.

If you looking just for a nice safe 4GHz OC, then there is no reason to spend the extra $20.

However, if you looking to get a max 4+GHz OC then $20 is pretty cheap price to pay for the extra 0.5 step multi.

How much of an issue would the extra $20 be in your build?
 
sdsdv10 said:
I kind of depends on what you plan to do.

If you looking just for a nice safe 4GHz OC, then there is no reason to spend the extra $20.

However, if you looking to get a max 4+GHz OC then $20 is pretty cheap price to pay for the extra 0.5 step multi.

How much of an issue would the extra $20 be in your build?
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Well I can say for certain that I probably won't be at 4GHz so, I guess I'll just go for E8400 :D
 
Dra said:
Well I can say for certain that I probably won't be at 4GHz so, I guess I'll just go for E8400 :D
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It'll probably be pretty easy to hit 4GHz though, so you may as well give it a shot ;).
 
All E8x00 are the same [if the stepping is the same] the 86 is not more likely than the 85 or 84 to hit higher OC's. These myths have been around for too many years. Get the 84 and with the $20 save put that towards some decent after market cooling. That will be the bigger factor in hitting and passing 4Ghz
 
GonzoP said:
All E8x00 are the same [if the stepping is the same] the 86 is not more likely than the 85 or 84 to hit higher OC's. These myths have been around for too many years.
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Wrong. The E8500 and E8600 are binned higher for a reason, first of all. Second, the higher multiplier means that they can hit higher speeds with less FSB, so when using a board that's FSB-limited, an E8500 or E8600 would overclock quite a bit better than an E8400.

Now, I'm not saying that it's always worth it to buy an E8500 or E8600 over an E8400. However, it's false to make the statement that there's no benefit from going with one of the higher models.
 
Zero82z said:
Wrong. The E8500 and E8600 are binned higher for a reason, first of all. Second, the higher multiplier means that they can hit higher speeds with less FSB, so when using a board that's FSB-limited, an E8500 or E8600 would overclock quite a bit better than an E8400.

Now, I'm not saying that it's always worth it to buy an E8500 or E8600 over an E8400. However, it's false to make the statement that there's no benefit from going with one of the higher models.
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I'll grant you the FSB mobo limitation point if you grant in turn that if you can crank the FSB and have the mobo and ram to get their its better to have a higher FSB without sacrificing total clockspeed. So benefit I guess is the defineable word.
E8400 for $169 vs E8600 for $269. I don't see the benefit of the extra $100. Looking at all the overclock data here at [H] and XS I don't see the 86 OCing that much higher than the 84 and certainly not enough to justify the $100. No benefit there IMO. 84's are as likely as 86's to hit 4Ghz and 4.5Ghz is an equal stretch from a pure clock standpoint. As aforementioned I'll grant the multiplier factor though.

[H] OC database
 
I'm facing the same debate 8400 vs 8500 for a meager $20. I'm an OC newb so please correct me if i'm wrong here but to me the 8500 is well worth 20 bux given that the 8400 can be OC'ed to 3.6 without a bump in core voltage - to me this translates to the fact the 8500 can likewise be bumped to 4.0 also without a bump in core voltage. I'd rather spend 20 and get a free 0.5 gain then have to expend voltage to see the same gain - lower stress on the CPU and less cooling requirements. Again please correct me if i'm wrong - i'm still early in my research for my next box.

On a similar note - when setting the FSB to 400... should one go with DDR2 1200 over DDR2 1066 ram? (i'm sure this has its own thread so an x-ref, if handy, would be fine ;))
 
$20 is $20 compare the E84 and E85 results above ^^^ in the database. I don't see the difference. Now $80-100 is the difference between the 84/85 and the 86. Maybe the 86's will OC better but for that much more coin they better otherwise the cost ratio is not worth it
 
Ens said:
On a similar note - when setting the FSB to 400... should one go with DDR2 1200 over DDR2 1066 ram? (i'm sure this has its own thread so an x-ref, if handy, would be fine ;))
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Memory frequency at 1:1 is equal to Bus speed *2 or quad-pumped FSB speed /2. At 400MHz, you'd need DDR2-800, not DDR2-1200 or even DDR2-1066. If you decided to go with a higher-frequency RAM, you'd need to adjust the memory divider to make the RAM run at its rated speed. Even so, performance gains from faster RAM are minimal.
 
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