Okay so it seems like a lot of people love the SAMSUNG 226BW Black 22" cause it has 700:1(DC 3000:1) Essentially it's still 700:1 isn't it so how does the 3000:1 kick it? How does it compare to the LG L226WTY-BF Black 22" 3000:1? <- I dont believe it's dynamic
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Dynamic contrast ratio vs. real?
- Thread starter Glow
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3000:1 is dynamic, 100% of the time. 3000:1 is only possible on a solid black screen.
If your 700:1 display with dynamic contrast is showing a dark scene with a single bright light source, like a flashlight or a street light in a dark alley, then you will get somewhere around zero benefit from dynamic contrast.
If the scene is uniformly dark with no bright light sources, then you'll get an improvement in contrast (sometimes a rather nice improvement), but still nowhere near 3000:1.
If your 700:1 display with dynamic contrast is showing a dark scene with a single bright light source, like a flashlight or a street light in a dark alley, then you will get somewhere around zero benefit from dynamic contrast.
If the scene is uniformly dark with no bright light sources, then you'll get an improvement in contrast (sometimes a rather nice improvement), but still nowhere near 3000:1.
None at all. They are both 700:1 monitors with 3000:1 dynamic contrast.
What about dell or NEC with 2000:1 do they use dynamic?
3000:1 is dynamic, 100% of the time. 3000:1 is only possible on a solid black screen.
If your 700:1 display with dynamic contrast is showing a dark scene with a single bright light source, like a flashlight or a street light in a dark alley, then you will get somewhere around zero benefit from dynamic contrast.
If the scene is uniformly dark with no bright light sources, then you'll get an improvement in contrast (sometimes a rather nice improvement), but still nowhere near 3000:1.
a more simple xplanation is that Dynamic lowers ur backlight in dark scenes when it detects lots of black colors going on, kinda a lame...
I have the Samsung 932BW that has the 3000:1 dynamic and I can say it looks VERY nice. Much better than my old Samsung panel, hell I even GAVE that one away and was glad to.
My blacks are really black, which is nice. The hardforum for example, the colors are really rich, excellent gradients, easy to read as well. My old panel was nothing like that...nothing at all. colors were dull, black wasn't really black, and the picture just didn't look as clear.
So if a 3000:1 panel is really a 700:1 panel, that's great with me as long as it's pleasing to my eyes. Just look at some screens and see what looks best to you that's in your price range.
My blacks are really black, which is nice. The hardforum for example, the colors are really rich, excellent gradients, easy to read as well. My old panel was nothing like that...nothing at all. colors were dull, black wasn't really black, and the picture just didn't look as clear.
So if a 3000:1 panel is really a 700:1 panel, that's great with me as long as it's pleasing to my eyes. Just look at some screens and see what looks best to you that's in your price range.
StaticSurge
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a more simple xplanation is that Dynamic lowers ur backlight in dark scenes when it detects lots of black colors going on, kinda a lame...
qft, it's a spec whoring thing manufacturers do to sell more panels. What I'm more interested in is why big TVs have higher contrast than computer monitors and if it's real contrast or dynamic. PC display technology is really taking a backseat to CE these days unfortunately.
so if the backlight "lowers" in dark scenes then wouldn't you see a difference in brightness on the rest of the screen? Hardforum for example...black background with some color here and there and a white message edit screen... My black is as black as it can be, the colors are rich, and if you do a simple test of open a window filled with black while only looking at the portion of the screen without the black window...and then minimize the black window...in theory if the backlight is changing you should see that in the part of the screen that's not changing right?
I did a simple test of that. use mspaint, filled the screen with black and sized it to take up half the screen. If I hold a notebook up so I only see the half of the screen that shows the desktop and minimize and restore the mspaint screen (filled with all black) there is no noticeable difference on the half that's only showing the desktop.
Dunno if that's an accurate test or not...but I would think it was since the backlight effects the entire screen...maybe not?
I did a simple test of that. use mspaint, filled the screen with black and sized it to take up half the screen. If I hold a notebook up so I only see the half of the screen that shows the desktop and minimize and restore the mspaint screen (filled with all black) there is no noticeable difference on the half that's only showing the desktop.
Dunno if that's an accurate test or not...but I would think it was since the backlight effects the entire screen...maybe not?
not being a true 3000:1 ratio doesn't really bother me since it looks great as it is....but I have a Mitsubishi 52628 1080p DLP that does exactly what I described when the "Dark Detailer" is set to on. Gets annoying with the screen changing brightness all the time.
Kaldskryke
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Wait, what? [H]'s color scheme is all solid colors, no gradients. If you're seeing any then you're suffering from viewing angle issues.The hardforum for example, the colors are really rich, excellent gradients, easy to read as well.
so if the backlight "lowers" in dark scenes then wouldn't you see a difference in brightness on the rest of the screen? ...but I would think it was since the backlight effects the entire screen...maybe not?
Yup, that's reason why I can't stand dynamic contrast with my LG204WTX. It's not just the dark areas, but the whole screen brightens and darkens because the backlight changes entirely. Plus the "Movie Mode" drops the gamma so much that dark detail is lost that way anyway. I just leave it on "normal mode", even though the black levels are painful that way.
There are some brand new LCD HDTVs with backlights that use LEDs instead of CCFLs so they can make some areas darker without affecting the rest. That's cool, but not available in any computer monitor. Maybe something like that will show up at CES.
i have an lcd tv w/ dynamic contrast setting set to low and if you have a white window, or any system folder open and move it the desktop I can see the parts of the background getting darker as I move the white window closer and lighter again as I move away
lol...no gradients on the hardforum color scheme itself, but on the window boarder (Vista Aero) and the Newegg advertisements at the top.Wait, what? [H]'s color scheme is all solid colors, no gradients. If you're seeing any then you're suffering from viewing angle issues.