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Simple easy question,

Will my realy expensive 7800GXT support DX10 or did i waste my money? Because i need this computer to last 3-4 years

Thank you
 
The Geforce 7 series supports WGF Or(windows Graphics foundation). which I beleive is what microsoft is going to call direct X. I keep reading stories that they will call it DX 10 then others that it will be WGF. I think most recently there was a story talking a bout how Microsoft scrapped all their plans and decided to go with a unified shader approach to the new DX or WGF and currently NO cards support Unified shaders. The whole sittuation is confusing and you will more than likely get different answers from different people.
 
I think the better question would be if DX10 will be implemented in games in the next 3-4 years. It took DX9 3 years before it was considered mainstream.
 
DX10 isn't even out yet. What are you worrying about? Yes it will last 3-4 years.
 
Shameless Liar said:
DX10 isn't even out yet. What are you worrying about? Yes it will last 3-4 years.
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Because sometimes you need to look to the future in finance and not look at the present because you will know if you make a correct financial desicion, and its late and saying yes will allow me to sleep easier. :)
 
Lord_Exodia said:
The Geforce 7 series supports WGF Or(windows Graphics foundation). which I beleive is what microsoft is going to call direct X. I keep reading stories that they will call it DX 10 then others that it will be WGF. I think most recently there was a story talking a bout how Microsoft scrapped all their plans and decided to go with a unified shader approach to the new DX or WGF and currently NO cards support Unified shaders. The whole sittuation is confusing and you will more than likely get different answers from different people.
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It's now officially called DirectX 10, no questions, and anyone who says otherwise is uneducated regarding the matter.

Anyways, your 7800GTX will last for awhile, and certainly won't be obsolete in 3 years. I'm not sure if it will be able to take advantage of a lot of DX10 features though.
 
lockheed2266 said:
Because sometimes you need to look to the future in finance and not look at the present because you will know if you make a correct financial desicion, and its late and saying yes will allow me to sleep easier. :)
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You are asking us as regular forum posters to forecast 4 years ahead in the videogame industry so you can sleep easer? Are you sure you were not trying to find a way to announce you bought a 7800GTX without making things totally obvious?

If you want a correct financial decision you could sell me your 7800 for $79, that is what I anticipate it being worth in 3-4 years.
 
Cypher19 said:
It's now officially called DirectX 10, no questions, and anyone who says otherwise is uneducated regarding the matter.

Anyways, your 7800GTX will last for awhile, and certainly won't be obsolete in 3 years. I'm not sure if it will be able to take advantage of a lot of DX10 features though.
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Hey Cypher, just curious do you have a link to the most recent article where they finally settled on this. I haven't read up on this in at least a month but I would like to read up on the final decision and features it will have.
 
Lord_Exodia said:
Hey Cypher, just curious do you have a link to the most recent article where they finally settled on this. I haven't read up on this in at least a month but I would like to read up on the final decision and features it will have.
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http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,1841253,00.asp

If that's not good enough, I can double check with one of my friends who works at Microsoft and is a member of the DX10 team.
 
Thanx Cypher, I'll take you word for it. No doubts at all. I just have been busy and out of the loop about this topic. ;)
 
but how long will it be in the game for before i need to start thinking about making a big loan from my bank to buy an up to date card.
 
DieHard007 said:
but how long will it be in the game for before i need to start thinking about making a big loan from my bank to buy an up to date card.
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This all depends on what you are comfortable with. Some people are comfortable with decent res and don't mind jaggies. As long as you think the gaming is fine your card is not obsolete. ;)
 
Thats cool cause i've only had the card for a few months now and i'm hoping to get 2+ years out of it. with out having to upgrade.
 
No, it doesnt support all the new features of DX10. Yes, it will be able to play DX10 games.
 
DieHard007 said:
so where do i stand with my 6800OC right now is it already obsolete now.
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No, things do not become obsolete because of what will[\i] come out. :rolleyes: :p
 
I think we all agree it would be much cooler if they called it Direct X:X.

I think programmers are going to allow for games to be played in multiple DX versions, just like today. Do they want to alienate the mainstream users who didn't just buy a new 500$ card for their game? We can thank capitalism for our continuing backwards compatability with these.
 
None of the current GPUs is DX10 compliant. In the prior versions of dx it was allowed to implement whatever features was missing in software so they could claim compliancy, but no more. DX10 is a feature set which must be fully supported on the GPU, to be compliant. However, Vista will also support "old-fashioned" gpus (current generation) by the DX9.L driver model. It's just not gonna be able to take advantage of the advanced features of DX10.

Our first taste of DX10 will be possible with Vista beta2 (probably around december), where we will get a chance to play with it via a reference software rasterizer. This will probably be all we have until dx10 cards come up.
 
AFAIK WGF2.0 = D3D part of DX10 (let's not forget DirectX isn't just about graphics API). Currently no card has support for DX10 (or whatever you want to call it, WGF2.0, whatever) but current cards will support WGF1.0 (DX9.0L effectively), which will apparantly come out with longhorn's release, no idea what it will bring to the table though.
 
What does it matter if it supports it? In 3 years, your card will be running the "latest and greatest" games so slow you'll have to drop it back to DX9 anyway. Have you tried running HL2 or BF2 on a GF4-level card? It ain't pretty.
 
finalgt said:
What does it matter if it supports it? In 3 years, your card will be running the "latest and greatest" games so slow you'll have to drop it back to DX9 anyway. Have you tried running HL2 or BF2 on a GF4-level card? It ain't pretty.
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exactly. why do people think their current latest and greatest cards will be able to be just as good in 3 years time?
 
I wonder what kind of visual fidelity we would experience with DX10. I saw the far cry dx10 video and although I'm very impressed, I don't really think it's as good as it's cracked up to be...that is of course until someone posts a picture of a DX10 game in action :D
 
RoffleCopter said:
I wonder what kind of visual fidelity we would experience with DX10. I saw the far cry dx10 video and although I'm very impressed, I don't really think it's as good as it's cracked up to be...that is of course until someone posts a picture of a DX10 game in action :D
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i think that most of us are getting a little ahead of our selfs. The demo that we saw of FC was just a small preview a "grain of sand out of a desert" if you will. If you are holding off on buying stuff so you can enjoy the fruits of future technologies then you might as well stop buying anyhting now and wait for DX i dont know v23, because at the moment DX v23 is same as DX 10 it just not out there it is still being made which means that there is no way to know what it will be.

I recommend enjoying each step of technology that way you dont miss anything, sure that will cost you more but at least money is not stopping you in enjoying doing what you like. I for one will buy current technology thats including X1800XT and AMD64 FX. I wont be moving to duel core until M2 sockets come out, i mean we dont even have things that use 64-bit technology so i am just making one step at the time, it makes things to me seem a lot less drastic and makes me more comfertable in adapting to new ways.
 
The 7800GTX doesn't support DX10 same as the R520 not supporting. The next gen hardware will though and we can expect that in about a year or so, R600 as well as G80.
 
Endurancevm said:
The 7800GTX doesn't support DX10 same as the R520 not supporting. The next gen hardware will though and we can expect that in about a year or so, R600 as well as G80.
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The G80 should be ready in Summer.....half a year..R600 is "scheduled" for Winter :)
 
Lets keep this on topic. More than likely DirectX 10 will support the GTX's not the other way around. This said however DX10 will have SM 4.0 and the GTX does not support that as far as I know. The next gen from ATi and NVIDIA will however though.
 
lockheed2266 said:
Because sometimes you need to look to the future in finance and not look at the present because you will know if you make a correct financial desicion, and its late and saying yes will allow me to sleep easier. :)
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Get a DX7 card (aincent) and put it in a computer, install DX9 and play a DX9 game.. and guess what... it works. Not with all the fancy graphics, and not fast, but it does work.

Does your 7800 support DX10? No, but DX10 will work with DX9 hardware just fine.

==>Lazn
 
Three to four years that GTX is going to look alot like a 9600 Pro looks today. Hell even a game like FEAR makes highend cards it's bitch (although they tend to be rather CPU limited in most cases).

If you're really worried about it then just buy the damn GTX and then start putting away $15-20 each month for your next highend video card purchase.

Personally I would just save some of the cash and get a GT but damn do I really want that 512mb GTX. :)
 
Get a DX7 card (aincent) and put it in a computer, install DX9 and play a DX9 game.. and guess what... it works. Not with all the fancy graphics, and not fast, but it does work.

Does your 7800 support DX10? No, but DX10 will work with DX9 hardware just fine
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No it won't actually. DX9- has had a lot of backwards compatibility in it, but that is being thrown out the window with DX10, as it is being built from scratch and is quite different from DX9. Plus, when using DX10 a dev is guaranteed certain features that older cards do not have.

Long story short:

NONE of the graphics cards that any of you own will work with DX10. Instead, you'll only be able to use games that also write in a codepath for DX9, and you will end up using DX9.L, which is basically DX9 rewritten for the Vista driver model.

(btw, sorry for not mentioning this in my last post, I wanted to confirm the info first, but at the time I was still pretty sure that DX10 was DX10 cards only)
 
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