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DX 10 Cards Release?

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Molingrad

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Anyone know when Direct X 10 cards will be released?

Im guessing DX 10 will come out with Vista so mid-late 2006?
 
DX10 supposebly a software mod, you can update dx9 cards to it, I forgot exactly maybe somebody here knows better.
 
Molingrad said:
Anyone know when Direct X 10 cards will be released?

Im guessing DX 10 will come out with Vista so mid-late 2006?
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DX10 may be shipped with Vista. I imagine that DX10 compatible cards will be out around the same time, hopefully before the release of DX10.

air2k5 said:
DX10 supposebly a software mod, you can update dx9 cards to it, I forgot exactly maybe somebody here knows better.
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:eek: Who the hell told you that?! First off, ONLY DX10 cards with work with DX10. Not even X1800XT's and 7800GTX's will be compatible, and will be forced to used DX9Ex (previously known as DX9.L). DX9 cards cannot be upgraded through a "software mod".
 
All current DX cards will work with any DX10 game. They wont support its features though.
 
Cali3350 said:
All current DX cards will work with any DX10 game. They wont support its features though.
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No, they won't. No GPU on the market right now will be able to run the DX10 API (disclaimer: that's not to say that a game that uses the DX10 API won't work. A seperate DX9 rendering pipeline should still be able to be built), and you've already asserted that by saying "they won't support its features". Part of the DX10 API is a full feature set, i.e. in DX9 a dev has to check for certain compatibilities in the card being used, but not only will that not be necessary in DX10, such a system won't even exist.
 
7800 cards are Direct X 10 and so are the new ATI cards. They cannot market that since officially there is no DirectX 10 yet. This info comes from the comapany media papers that I am not allowed to show but support is there.

Actually, if you can download a Vista driver on the Nvidia or ATI's page of drivers and it your video card is listed as supported you will be fine.
 
This info comes from the comapany media papers that I am not allowed to show but support is there.
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What the hell is that? Dude, if your not going to back it up with a link, dont post it. The current cards might be compatible with Vista, but VISTA isnt going to be ONLY DX10, at least i doubt it, it might release at the same time, but i doubt M$ will limit their market like that (Speculation on my part). And AFAIK the current cards do not support DX10. It is a little under a year away still, and nothing i have seen supports that they do. If they do, prove it.
 
RaphaelVinceti said:
What the hell is that? Dude, if your not going to back it up with a link, dont post it.
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No kidding, at least I can forward you to people that would definitely know

The current cards might be compatible with Vista, but VISTA isnt going to be ONLY DX10, at least i doubt it, it might release at the same time, but i doubt M$ will limit their market like that (Speculation on my part).
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DX10 will be Vista only. Vista will ship by default with a version of DirectX 9 made for Vista's display driver system (it'll be called D3D9Ex)

And AFAIK the current cards do not support DX10.
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They don't, and I'll say it again:

The 7800GTX is NOT DirectX 10 compatible
 
No, what he's saying is, is that to use DX10 you will need a DX10 card (however this isn't like using a DX8 card and running DX9 game). To get to the point fo it, DX10 cards will onll be able run previous DX versions by emulation, hopefully this should clear some things up.
 
Cypher19 said:
DX10 will be Vista only.
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You're kidding right? You'll be forced to upgrade to drm-up-the-ying-yang vista just so you can play in all of dx10's glory? What aboot us winxp users?
 
But G70/R520 can run DX 10 games, which one person mentioned, and then was shot down by others bouts of stupidity
 
chinesepiratefood said:
But G70/R520 can run DX 10 games, which one person mentioned, and then was shot down by others bouts of stupidity
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yeah, and a GeForce MX440 can run UT2k4, Even tho it is DX7.

It just dosn't utilize all the calls that are DX 8 or 9 specific.
 
chinesepiratefood said:
But G70/R520 can run DX 10 games, which one person mentioned, and then was shot down by others bouts of stupidity
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Now why did you have to go and do that?

http://www.thezbuffer.com/articles/280.aspx

Vista will ship with both DirectX 9 (which contains all the backward compatible stuff (dx8,7,6, direct draw etc) and DirectX10 which REQUIRES DX10 hardware (non exists yet) and will not be backward compatible.
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Vista will ship with both DirectX 9 (which contains all the backward compatible stuff (dx8,7,6, direct draw etc) and DirectX10 which REQUIRES DX10 hardware (non exists yet) and will not be backward compatible.
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wow.. my guess was right.


i sense cypher19 getting burned...LOL
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I sense you need to stop sensing things you cant comprehend..
 
Yeah in a nutshell hardware that supprts DX10 uses DX10 if not then just DX9.0L (or whatever it's called these days)
 
Thats ass


There is no way they can force you to buy a new card for DX10, and buy a card for all the games previous to it.
 
Komataguri said:
Thats ass


There is no way they can force you to buy a new card for DX10, and buy a card for all the games previous to it.
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Am I missing something? Whos forcing you to buy a DX10 card?

You dont have to buy a DX10 card. Your card will still run DX10 games. It will just be forced to run in DX9. Just like if you have a DX8.1 card and play a DX9 game. It forces it into DX8.1.
 
From what I heard, motherboards will have to be DX 10 compatible too. :rolleyes:
 
i think ill hold off till the release of vista before i consider an upgrade....

i predict another boom in the pc market somewhere in 2006...
 
a boom is likely, with all of the new stuff supposedly coming out (well.. gamer market anyway.) PhsyX, M2, dualcore FX(hopefully!! :D ) ) I'll probably start building my next system sometime in the spring, hopefully after the release of the M2 board. I need to finish building my case first.
 
forcefed said:
You're kidding right? You'll be forced to upgrade to drm-up-the-ying-yang vista just so you can play in all of dx10's glory? What aboot us winxp users?
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Yes, it's because it's not only DX9 that has gotten extremely bloated, but most of Windows as well (including the driver system). DX10 is incompatible with WinXP. Because of this, devs will likely be supporting DX9 for 3-4+ years (the 3 year mark will be for the, with respect to min specs, really ballsy devs, e.g. how Battlefield 2 requires PS2.0 cards)

W4ngsta said:
i sense cypher19 getting burned...LOL
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i sense W4ngsta in a state of idiotic denial...LOL

You dont have to buy a DX10 card. Your card will still run DX10 games. It will just be forced to run in DX9. Just like if you have a DX8.1 card and play a DX9 game. It forces it into DX8.1.
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It won't work like that. DX10 is NOT backwards compatible with DX9, and a seperate rendering system from DX10 has to be developed for DX9 just for cards that don't support DX10, which is EVERY SINGLE CARD ON THE MARKET RIGHT NOW
 
sooo....basically what this thread is saying is that it's kinda dumb to buy a new card now if you can live with the one you have b/c the dx10 stuff will be coming out early '06?

I ponder this...b/c I was planning on getting either an x1800xl/xt or 7800gt/gtx...
 
northrop said:
And monitor with HDCP.

And just like that, you have yourself a whole new system.
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Yep, and a DX10-certified case will be a good idea as well. Want to stay up on the current technology.
 
Cypher19 said:
Yes, it's because it's not only DX9 that has gotten extremely bloated, but most of Windows as well (including the driver system). DX10 is incompatible with WinXP. Because of this, devs will likely be supporting DX9 for 3-4+ years (the 3 year mark will be for the, with respect to min specs, really ballsy devs, e.g. how Battlefield 2 requires PS2.0 cards)



i sense W4ngsta in a state of idiotic denial...LOL


It won't work like that. DX10 is NOT backwards compatible with DX9, and a seperate rendering system from DX10 has to be developed for DX9 just for cards that don't support DX10, which is EVERY SINGLE CARD ON THE MARKET RIGHT NOW
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wtf fuck are you talking about? are you lost in space? jesus fucking christ.
 
Volume said:
Yep, and a DX10-certified case will be a good idea as well. Want to stay up on the current technology.
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And a DX-10 sticker :p
 
Sloth_Boy said:
I thought microsoft ended the DirectX marketing name, isnt avalon now?
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thats the codename.

WGF (windows graphics foundation) is the sucessor to DirectX.
 
Cypher19 said:
DX10 may be shipped with Vista. I imagine that DX10 compatible cards will be out around the same time, hopefully before the release of DX10.



:eek: Who the hell told you that?! First off, ONLY DX10 cards with work with DX10. Not even X1800XT's and 7800GTX's will be compatible, and will be forced to used DX9Ex (previously known as DX9.L). DX9 cards cannot be upgraded through a "software mod".
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I believe all he was saying is that you'll be able to install dx10 just as someone who has a geforce 4 MX4400, which doesn't support dx9, can install dx9.0c...
 
lithium726 said:
thats the codename.

WGF (windows graphics foundation) is the sucessor to DirectX.
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WGF is no longer the name. The name is officially, both publically and internally, DirectX 10. Information about Avalon can be found on Wikipedia (I haven't looked into it much)

wtf fuck are you talking about? are you lost in space? jesus fucking christ.
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Huh? With regards to what part of the statement?
 
What the hell is that? Dude, if your not going to back it up with a link, dont post it.
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I am a hardware reviewer; I don't send links I make them, LOL. Remember that whole FX-60 thing ;)

I will have to put that in my sig somewhere. Anyhow, it was in a conference call presentation and I am not sure how they would feel about me posting it. I tried to find where someone else posted it but I was unable to. Right now there is not alot of talk about it and in the PDF it was more of a foot note. I was just trying to truthfully answer your question.
 
I am a hardware reviewer; I don't send links I make them, LOL. Remember that whole FX-60 thing

I will have to put that in my sig somewhere. Anyhow, it was in a conference call presentation and I am not sure how they would feel about me posting it. I tried to find where someone else posted it but I was unable to. Right now there is not alot of talk about it and in the PDF it was more of a foot note. I was just trying to truthfully answer your question.
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As I've said earlier, one of the features of DX10 is full feature compliance, and seeing as how the 7800GTX doesn't support a lot of key features such as (most significantly) shader model 4.0, memory virtualization and the changes inherent in the rendering systems, that means it is not DX10 compliant. Double check your information and make sure they aren't talking about just Vista support through D3D9Ex.
 
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