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Dual Boot SSD

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Shea6892

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So I have a 120GB OCZ Vertex 2 SSD on the way and am going to dual boot Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit and Linux(Haven't decided on a distro yet). I am wondering if this will be enough space to adequately run both OS's efficiently and speedy. Also if I want to use my regular 230GB HDD for media do I just make sure I change the path when I am downloading something or do I have to set something up in order to not store anything but the OS's on my SSD? Thanks.
 
120gb should be enough. I'm dual booting my laptop with Vista Home Premium and Win7 Ultimate (both 64bit) and both partitions are under 50gb. I don't have any games installed, but on the Win7 I've got Visual Studio 2010, Office 2010, SQL Server (my db's on 2nd drive) and a number of other dev tools.

My experience with linux distro's is somewhat limited, but I've never heard of one taking up anywhere near what Vista or Win7.

Make sure to disable hibernate and move your page file to your regular hard drive, which is a good idea for an ssd anyway.
 
JRS said:
120gb should be enough. I'm dual booting my laptop with Vista Home Premium and Win7 Ultimate (both 64bit) and both partitions are under 50gb. I don't have any games installed, but on the Win7 I've got Visual Studio 2010, Office 2010, SQL Server (my db's on 2nd drive) and a number of other dev tools.

My experience with linux distro's is somewhat limited, but I've never heard of one taking up anywhere near what Vista or Win7.

Make sure to disable hibernate and move your page file to your regular hard drive, which is a good idea for an ssd anyway.
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Alright thank you. What is the reasoning for disabling hibernate? And I was wondering about IDE's/Dev tools I should save those onto the SSD? Going to school for computer programming so definitely need to know that. Thanks again JRS.
 
Hibernate basically saves all your RAM onto a temp file in your hard drive or SSD. It will prematurely wear off your SSD for almost no gain in battery life when you are in standby.
 
Rafale said:
Hibernate basically saves all your RAM onto a temp file in your hard drive or SSD. It will prematurely wear off your SSD for almost no gain in battery life when you are in standby.
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Ahhh I see.. Everyone talks about needing to use TRIM when I get my SSD but I don't know how. Is it difficult to set up? And will it be an issue running Linux since Linux doesn't have TRIM, right?
 
danswartz said:
I thought you had to explicitly tell windows to hibernate?
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Hibernate will maintain the hibernate file (hidden/system) even if you never use the feature.

If hibernate is enabled, it constantly maintains the hibernate file (hidden and system file) on c:\. It can be large, iirc, mine was around 16gb when I shut it off. Unlike your swap/page file, it cannot be moved to another drive.
 
What does 'maintain the hibernate file' mean? Continuing to exist as opposed to writing to it often? My understanding was the former. If you are claiming it writes to it enough to make any difference, do you have any cite for this?
 
Shea6892 said:
Alright thank you. What is the reasoning for disabling hibernate? And I was wondering about IDE's/Dev tools I should save those onto the SSD? Going to school for computer programming so definitely need to know that. Thanks again JRS.
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I disabled hibernate to save the space and wear/tear on the ssd, and I didn't use it hardly ever.

I did install on my dev tools on my ssd, but almost all my work is on the second hard drive. I started a practice years ago of keeping all my work, source code, databases, documents, etc, off my boot drive whenever possible. I started doing this as it made backing up easier, I could do more frequent backups, and I tend to dual/triple boot most of my computers. That is really a personal habit and not necessarily one I'd recommend doing if it doesn't work for you.

danswartz said:
What does 'maintain the hibernate file' mean? Continuing to exist as opposed to writing to it often? My understanding was the former. If you are claiming it writes to it enough to make any difference, do you have any cite for this?
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I do not have a cite for this. Yes, I believe the hibernate file continues to exists. I just tried this on my laptop - I enable hibernation, and hiberfil.sys appeared under c:\ and was 6gb. When I disable hibernate, the file disappeared.

I have no idea if/when Windows will write to it. iirc, when I deleted it when I installed my ssd it had a recent time stamp even though I had not hibernated in quite awhile, but I can't be real sure on this point.

If it writes to it only when you hibernate, then it won't save much wear tear to disable it, it will really only save the space. Obviously if you are interested you can enable it yourself and check the date/time stamp on the file for a few days and see if it gets updated without explicitly hibernating.
 
Yes the file continues to exist even after you come back from hibernation. I don't know if it gets updated though but it will get rewritten over the next time you hibernate... In any case, not good for the SSD.
 
Alright thanks guys. As far as TRIM goes is it just a feature I turn on or do I have to set it up somehow? And since Linux doesn't have TRIM is it putting more wear on my SSD by using Linux?
 
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