DS3 E4300 attempted OC, what's wrong?

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I bought the intel e4300, 2 gigs of Super Talent RAM, and the Gigabyte 965P-DS3 Rev 1.3 MoBo (because I couldn't find anywhere that could keep the DFI Infinity P965-S in stock for long enough for me to order it) in order to build an overclocking system on a budget. I understood that there were some problems with the DS3 which seemed to be getting a little better with the newer boards. I was under the assumption that a Rev 1.3 board would be a newer one, but now, upon searching further, I only find people talking about R1, R2, and whole numbers....
Anyway, I've always built using overclockable components, but not actually tried to overclock until now. Using this guide I attempted to overclock my machine. Everything seemed to be fine, fired up CPU-Z, RAM is running at 4-4-4-12, but the CPU winds up not being overclocked.
CPU-Z images follow:
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When I reboot and go back into the bios settings, memory setting keep the changes I made, but others have reverted back to automated settings, I guess for the safety of the board. I tried setting the CPU Host Freq to both 376 and 365 as suggested in the guide, but both settings resulted in the same reversion. Yes, the guide I followed is for an intel e6000 series chip, but is that really the only problem? Can anyone tell me what's going on and how to fix it(if I can do so by doing anything other than getting another motherboard)? If I can keep this setup and get more speed out of it I would prefer to as I don't really have the extra $ to spend on a new Motherboard right now.
Help me o wise ones!

[edit] I'm running this all on a Corsair HX520W power supply that I bought along with my other stuff to make sure I had a PSU that could supply solid V rails to this build and most builds that I might choose to do over the next couple of years. It is being cooled by a Cooler Master Aquagate WC system(first time to WC and I already want to go spend a ton of $ on Aqua Computer stuff and build my own if I weren't hindered by my sadly empty wallet) that has never shown me a temp above 29.9C on my CPU.
 
after doing a bit more research, the "No Execute Memory Protect" in the advanced BIOS features needed to be disabled. I decided to do a bit more modest of an OC initially and am now running at 2.56GHz on a 285MHz FSB.

[edit/update]
I decided to push it a bit, as I would wind up doing so anyway, and I now have the following:
cpuzoc.jpg

Running 4-4-4-12 on the Super Talent DDR667
Anything above that on the Host clock and it wouldn't boot to windows, even if i dropped the RAM timing to 5-5-5-12 or 5-5-5-15.
I have yet to test it for stability. My CM Aquagate tells me I'm idling at 29.1 C.
Yay for my first OC, little bit disappointed that I couldn't get it to 3GHz, but oh well, I got more speed than I paid for!
 
after doing a bit more research, the "No Execute Memory Protect" in the advanced BIOS features needed to be disabled. I decided to do a bit more modest of an OC initially and am now running at 2.56GHz on a 285MHz FSB.

[edit/update]
I decided to push it a bit, as I would wind up doing so anyway, and I now have the following:
cpuzoc.jpg

Running 4-4-4-12 on the Super Talent DDR667
Anything above that on the Host clock and it wouldn't boot to windows, even if i dropped the RAM timing to 5-5-5-12 or 5-5-5-15.
I have yet to test it for stability. My CM Aquagate tells me I'm idling at 29.1 C.
Yay for my first OC, little bit disappointed that I couldn't get it to 3GHz, but oh well, I got more speed than I paid for!

what is you memory divider set at?

Late edit: You memory shood be good for getting you to 3GHz on a 333MHz FSB (333HHz*9=3GHz roughly) with the divider set to 1:1
 
Yeah, make sure that memory divider is okay and you aren't pushing your RAM too hard. I have the Firestix and bumped my RAM voltage +0.3 (2.1v). I think it was around 2.8 or 2.9GHz that I had to bump my vcore voltage up one step because under full load my CPU voltage would drop a little.
 
definitely check your ram divider. also what is the stock voltage with your ram? you might need to up it a bit to improve your overclock. like the others have said you should be able to get to 3.0ghz without a sweat. btw, what are your temps and are your currently orthos stable with your settings?
 
well, didn't have time to play test it earlier today, or to test stability, but in Counterstrike just now I got a couple of errors that booted me out of the game.
CPU-Z says FSB;DRAM = 1:1
which I think means my divider is 1:1, I was unable to find a setting for this in my BIOS, so I'm not sure. Also, does anyone have any advice as far as reccommended voltages to try across the board to get things a little faster and to ensure stability? As of now I have voltages set on auto as I'm a noob and don't want to fry my machine.
 
i would do some research and set the voltages manually vs. leaving them on auto

that ram should be good to 2.1 or more

it is known to do 400 at 44412 and 500 at 55515

i'm about to put together nearly the exact same setup

my board will be 1.1 though .. same memory and same chip (other than my stepping is different)
 
Got it stable enough to play with a 285MHz bus and RAM timings at 5-5-5-15 and voltages on auto, after a half hour of playing CS:S CPU temp was 34.1C, which seems to be a hell of a lot better than what a lot of people are running. There did seem to be a bit of surging in terms of processing power, like it didn't have enough at the beginning of rounds when it needed to load a sudden change in location.

[edit] I can't necessarily translate terms used on sites to the terms I see in my BIOS(being a noob and all). When upping my V core, is that a reference to CPU voltage or to FSB voltage? I have options for both.
In my approach to OCing, should I worry about getting a stable OC on the CPU and then start lowering the timing on the RAM, or just sort of mess about until I find something that works?
 
I ran orthos at 2.564GHz for 7 hours and 44 minutes and it told me what I already know, that it was stable at that speed. With fan speed on low, and after a couple of hours, CPU temp hit 50 C, upped the fan speed on the CM Aquagate and it dropped to around 35 or less, where it stayed for the rest of the test. The noise with the fan speed at that level is unbearable though, ran it like that as I wasn't home and use at that level for that duration is very unlikely in my case.
Having trouble finding an article that clearly and succinctly explains voltages, when to move em and what else you have to move when you move one thing. Can anyone point me in the right direction? I want this thing running stable at 3GHz!
 
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