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Sounds like we are closer to getting deathmatch back!
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It actually works (If you mean the range-addition ability Take Aim). You just have a ~550 range melee hero.Having a melee hero stuck with Sniper's ability would be so fun...
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I played as brood and got jipped on my draft. Ended up with web, aftershock, spiked carapace, and echo slam. It was interesting.
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Ranked single matches can be so incredibly irritating. Last night I was playing Terrorblade and got pretty well fed, and did rather well, we had a lead, then our Venomancer Disconnected.
Terrorblade is awesome with mantas, Being able to use metamorphosis, then his 2 illusion abilities, along with mantis, It can make team fights as crazy as specter can make them.
Ive gone on such a skid because of random teammates that seem to have absolutely no clue how to play or idiot captains that allow other teams to get heroes like DP, Tide, and Lich on their team.
I got as high as 2700 or so, but ive been stuck in the damn 2400 range for a while now
Terrorblade is awesome with mantas, Being able to use metamorphosis, then his 2 illusion abilities, along with mantis, It can make team fights as crazy as specter can make them.
Ive gone on such a skid because of random teammates that seem to have absolutely no clue how to play or idiot captains that allow other teams to get heroes like DP, Tide, and Lich on their team.
I got as high as 2700 or so, but ive been stuck in the damn 2400 range for a while now
Solo IS annoying.... exceptially when facing a stacked team! Solo should be solo for everyone
Last night I played solo and Randomned Trent.. fine I'll support. The 2 carry fed and I had more kills then them even tho I had ONLY mana boots, wards, drums. Needed lots of wards for Riki and Ursa's invisibility
I finished 3-8-4 (my death started at the end when they were all too fed). Carries finished with 1-14-2 or something
and they fed the worst.My solo MMR is now at around 2620 but my group is at ~2930. And it's always more fun to play with people you know and knows what to do! (I usually only play group with my brother)
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Solo IS annoying.... exceptially when facing a stacked team! Solo should be solo for everyone
Last night I played solo and Randomned Trent.. fine I'll support. The 2 carry fed and I had more kills then them even tho I had ONLY mana boots, wards, drums. Needed lots of wards for Riki and Ursa's invisibility
I finished 3-8-4 (my death started at the end when they were all too fed). Carries finished with 1-14-2 or something
My solo MMR is now at around 2620 but my group is at ~2930. And it's always more fun to play with people you know and knows what to do! (I usually only play group with my brother)
Problem is I dont really know anybody who plays Dota 2, at least not IRL. Dont really have ANYBODY to party up with and in Randoms people dont seem to party up post-match at all
I wouldn't mind playing with other people if you don't mind my french speaking accent
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I wouldn't mind playing with other people if you don't mind my french speaking accent
Oh i wouldnt mind that at all over some of the crap i ran into. My team just now called me a feeder when i didnt have a single death until 20 minutes in, and let naga run all over them, plus he was full of your momma jokes lmao, i didnt know those still existed
Invite some of us friendly peoples here to play with!
I'm not super good or anything, but I am usually down to play
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I'm so tired of losing. Seems like every game now I'm solo on a team of idiots against a semi-pro team. I'm by no means good, but I can keep from feeding and know how to win. But lately it seems like my lane will be going well, but the other lanes are getting hammered and feeding. Then I run into the fed guys, and get owned hard, and quickly go negative on kills. So fucking annoying.
Add me if you don't mind playing with non-pro players. I have a mic and up for strategies that will result in lots of wins. Losing sucks.
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Add me if you don't mind playing with non-pro players. I have a mic and up for strategies that will result in lots of wins. Losing sucks.
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Down for anyone else?
Your first mistake in this approach is your blaming other players for loosing the game. It's Dota you play 5 on 5. First if you have team mates which are loosing their lane, it is up to YOU to support them and try and win. IE carry a tp scroll with you, and when you see your allies in trouble in said lane, TP to that lane and help those in need secure the kills, or avenge them.
The biggest thing I see in pub games is a hero will go missing and no one on the team will call missing, then that hero shows up in a lane and ganks. If this happens a few times in a row the game will be over and the other team will snowball out of control. So the biggest thing in Dota is MAP AWARENESS, and making sure your allies know where the 5 enemy heroes are at all times. If you cannot account for a hero then play safe, ie don't sit in the lane all by yourself farming, you will get ganked and die.
Another thing players will do when trying to gank is say its warded so they cannot gank. Buy some smoke, use it, and blam that observer ward is not going to see you (has to be sentry to see smoked player) Smoke costs 100 gold and it not only hides you from things like wards, but prevents people from seeing you from high ground and such until they are with in a certain distance (1025 distance) if your not sure how far that is then play against the bots with draw range of 1025 on.
Yes sometimes you get get stuck with a player who literally has no skill at all and it sucks, but its Dota and your playing 5 vs 5. So when you loose a game, its because ALL 5 of you were unable to work together to best the other team. So you cannot really blame others because well you were also on the team and you failed to help them achieve success. The ranked games are better because "valve" says the average MMR of the teams will be close, and it does show up in most matches.
Feel free to add me on Steam. BTU_Ebduncan. You can find me on twitch as well ( I stream)
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One player can very very easily lose a game. Last night i was playing as CM supporting a tiny vs a single lane axe. The Tiny kept trying and trying to kill axe, and i kept trying and trying to save tiny by rooting and nuking axe, but Tiny would just stand there and auto attack him, and i would still commit to maybe hopefully kill axe with the 2 of us surviving, In stead because of axes movement speed and damage it ended up with both of us being killed 3 times, in the first 5 minutes. So axe was sitting there at level 8 with us at 3, until i finally decided to abandon the lane.
Last night i also played with a pudge who did not gank any of the other lanes the entire game, the only reason we fought it out until the 60th minute is because me as lifestealer and our terrorblade got relatively farmed but their snowball overwhelmed us. Pudge as mid went 2-15.
I've also talked about how in another game i had a sniper go 2-22. And I've also had a lifestealer who got pissed off because Natures prophet was in the jungle and the Naix didn't participate in the entire game. I mean he literally went 0-0-0.
Dota 2 is a team game, and if the other team has good coordination, and one player on your team isnt participating in team fights and/or fed, it absolutely is GG
s0lid - Nice courier. All I've ever gotten was the pig. In regards to your Sven, I see a bunch of early kills, but the other team must have really sucked to let you dominate like that.
Vlad - There's no cure for stupid. I hate it when I'm stuck with an idiot teammate that doesn't understand how to play (Axe rapes Tiny, as Tiny has no armor, so the damage from Culling Blade would destroy him). Since Culling blade isn't stopped by Frostbite, the odds of killing Axe are low. Plus, CM has the lowest move speed in the game, so you're odds of outrunning Axe early w/o mana are null.
Validz - I don't even remember the last time I saw you online. Hope life's treating you well.
Vlad - There's no cure for stupid. I hate it when I'm stuck with an idiot teammate that doesn't understand how to play (Axe rapes Tiny, as Tiny has no armor, so the damage from Culling Blade would destroy him). Since Culling blade isn't stopped by Frostbite, the odds of killing Axe are low. Plus, CM has the lowest move speed in the game, so you're odds of outrunning Axe early w/o mana are null.
Validz - I don't even remember the last time I saw you online. Hope life's treating you well.
Pez - Yeah I might get 1 or 2 games in a day and usually earlier in the day. Things are going well and hope life is treating you well!
Hey kledar. The most important skill for new players in Dota to master is the art of not dying. Dota can be harsh to new players (as can the community), but not feeding (dying), will help get used to the game. While map awareness is important, focus on not dying to what you can see.
I'd suggest watching some replays of other players. One of my friends buys tickets to all the league games, and watching those is a real treat. Seeing how the "elite" play can give you ideas. Of course, teamwork plays a huge part of it, but that comes later.
Well yeah, at lvl 2 I could harass witch doctor and timbersaw out of the lane with frost arrow and fury swipes. Well, the whole game was like that because only skywrath got any decent CC skills.
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ebduncan said:
Sorry, but that's utterly wrong. One horrible player will lose the match. And that's easily proven. Take the match I just lost. Whole team did great, aside from our Shadow Fiend. Died 5 times to Pudge in the first 5 minutes. Then proceeded to die to just about every other enemy a few times. Ended up 2 and 17. Gave each of their heroes at least 2 levels, so then you can imagine how team fights went.
A really awesome player can carry a team to victory sometimes, and a really bad one can ruin the game.
Also, when you play solo, it should 100% be with other solo players. This bullshit where I enter a game solo, and the other team is all people playing together is fucking retarded. Pub stomping has ruined this game. What's the point of a nonranked match, if I play a semipro team and am miserable for 45 minutes?
I'm spending a good amount of time today trying to find some other multiplayer game so I can uninstall Dota 2. If Titanfall was out, I doubt I'd ever play this game again.
I already said this
in most cases both teams have someone equally retarded and it balances out.
Guess I must be pretty pro then cause I rarely loose these days. Even with dumb folks on my team. I usually play in a party of 3, so there are 2 randoms.
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That's a huge advantage to that team, and why I lose constantly. I'm constantly getting in a lane against two guys who are working together, while my lane mate is Russian or Mexican and doesn't even respond to anything. And I must have horrible luck, as my last 20 games or so have been against really solid teams with no retards.
If you are pro, then you need to mentor me or something. I don't get to play but a few games on the weekends, so I could use some pointers. I have a couple guys from this forum recently added, and have watched their games. They are way better than me. My main problems are:
1. Not good at controlling pets at all. Would love to get good with Phantom Lancer or Nature's Prophet, but by the time I switch to the neutrals and give them commands, then get back to my hero, I'm usually dying.
2. The key setup, which I've even customized, is not good for me. I have a ton of problems using my items with key presses. In fights, I normally forget to use them altogether. Using a blink dagger or force staff is beyond me. There has to be a better key setup.
3. Horrible at the shift queue thing.
I'm decent with a few heroes, but if the other team starts to get fed, it's all down hill.
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Ive finally had a good run. My rating dipped as low as 2330 midway through feb. but now its up to 2801 in solo matchmaking
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Mine went from almost 4k down to 3500 in two nights. It's stupid how they base it on team win / loss alone. Should be a formula considering w/l plus k/d/a also. I can play well, and I can carry well, but I can't carry stupid.
Looking at this thread I'm thinking I'm the best player here as I maintain a 5-5.5k rating. You people need to stop blaming the system. Sure snipers feeding, but why aren't you pushing towers while he's getting 5 man ganked? Why aren't you tp'ing when he gets dove? Why aren't you leaving mid? Why are the smokes always off cooldown? Where the wards at? Do they have wards up? Why do you let them have wards? Get rid of them, make space you fools.
Once, one of my friends wouldn't shut up about how I was simply lucky in who I got matched with, so I bet him $20 that I could get him to 4.5k from 3k in under a month. Took me six days, he bought me Rust.
He then got a massive losing streak. You people just aren't as good as your ego thinks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect
Once, one of my friends wouldn't shut up about how I was simply lucky in who I got matched with, so I bet him $20 that I could get him to 4.5k from 3k in under a month. Took me six days, he bought me Rust.
He then got a massive losing streak. You people just aren't as good as your ego thinks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect
Insulting people who are complaining about horrible teammates isn't cool, dude. I've dota'd with a number of people in here, and they are welcome to dota with me anytime. No, none of us will be playing in the million dollar tourneys, but none of us claimed to be that good. It's a team game, and one person can really fuck it up for everybody. Having half your team speak a different language can as well. If you can't communicate or coordinate, having smokes doesn't do much. If your Sniper is getting 5 man ganked, how would solo-porting in help? You will most likely be just feeding the gank more.
I agree.
I've tried to tell them, but all they want to do is play the blame game. I am currently at 4200 mmr solo.
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A single player cannot win a game vs a well organized team, its that simple. Who says the bad snipers of the world are getting 5 man ganked? Nobody said that, feeding does not always mean 1v5, it means being caught out of position prior to a team fight. And if someone is caught out of position 9/10 team fights, then your fighting 4v5 against opponents who have the benefit of extra gold from hero kills. Hell I've see a sniper lose his lane to a solo Riki, and we all know what happens when Riki gets fed to shit.
Smoke does nothing if your team is not organized in its movements and somebody blows your cover my getting too close, Randoms at low levels refuse to buy wards, hell most even refuse to play support classes in general. Ive seen all picks go with 5 hard carries and get obliterated early game
You didn't read my post. 5 man gank? Push towers, get that gold advantage. You tell me it's not cool to insult people who claim to have terrible teammates, and then you go on to insult people who speak other languages. I often find the English speaker to be far worse than the Spanish speaker, but people rally behind him because of their common heritage. It's just stereotypes and an excessive ego.
Smokes don't do much without communication? You mean to tell me you can't ping and use the chatwheel? What the hell are you talking about?
The fact that you think a fed riki is a problem instantly causes you to lose any credibility in what you say. Smoke ganks don't need more organization than someone following you. YOU are buying the wards, who cares if randoms don't. If you're in a team of 5 hard carries, why the fuck are you a hard carry?
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Smoke absolutely does not only require someone to be following you, the second they move in when the enemy is too close to a tower, or there are too many of them around for you to 2 person gank your screwed end of story. Carrys shouldnt be buying wards period because it drastically drops their effectiveness late game, thats a supports job in both competitive or non-competitive play unless the supports dont have the gold to buy them. People like you are exactly the reason why general gamers hate this fucking genre of gaming, the community is shit, and your displaying it 100% right now
Lets not even consider the fact that lower ranks have captains who pick 5 carry heroes with no mid? What about the sniper that fed the riki so much riki was 6 slotted, and at level 25 before anybody else in the game was above 17? Yeah that cant be catastrophic for the game at all when the Riki is literally 3 shotting our DK
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