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DOOM (2016) first benchmark review

KazeoHin said:
Seriously. Google Sites lets you upload uncompressed, linkable images with no ads. Why people still use Imgr and photobucket I'll never know....
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Seems fine to me.....But i been using adblock and disconnect so long I really dont even know if a site has horrible ads (disabled here of course)....poster was posting for the stats, instead of the image quality anyway

all he had to do was use the direct link and WOW NO ADS
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KazeoHin said:
Seriously. Google Sites lets you upload uncompressed, linkable images with no ads. Why people still use Imgr and photobucket I'll never know....
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the ads aren't the problem it's the stupid fucking website making me click multiple times to see the full image. that and larger images take forever to load because it's slow as fuck.
 
RamonGTP said:
If Kepler drivers have been neglected for that long, I doubt they'll suddenly start getting better, especially now since it's yet another generation old. I have a 2GB 680 in another box with an i5 2400 but I haven't tried the game on there yet. May give it a shot tonight when I get home and see how it performs.
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What? No no, drivers were eventually fixed for Witcher 3 in one or two driver revisions after the "game ready" ones were out. But back then however Kepler was still alive and well and actually 780Ti was still relatively new and thats why it caused such a shitstorm when 600$ card suddenly loses to a cheap GTX960 POS, making people blame Nvidia for intentionally gimping Keplers for the sake of better Maxwell sales. But you are right, now that Keplers really are old and people have moved on from it it might take even longer for Nvidia to fix the performance issues, if ever. I have to wait until december tax returns before I can afford GTX1080 (or AMD equivalent) so lets see which one comes first. Enough money for new card or fixed drivers from Nvidia. :D

Odellus said:
it's 2016 please stop using photobucket for christ's sakes.
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Since I upload and insert pictures only once in a blue moon I have not exactly cared to follow the latest trends of picture uploading. What is the latest way to do it? To me Photobucket has worked fine, atleast for direct
 
MaZa said:
What? No no, drivers were eventually fixed for Witcher 3 in one or two driver revisions after the "game ready" ones were out. But back then however Kepler was still alive and well and actually 780Ti was still relatively new and thats why it caused such a shitstorm when 600$ card suddenly loses to a cheap GTX960 POS, making people blame Nvidia for intentionally gimping Keplers for the sake of better Maxwell sales. But you are right, now that Keplers really are old and people have moved on from it it might take even longer for Nvidia to fix the performance issues, if ever. I have to wait until december tax returns before I can afford GTX1080 (or AMD equivalent) so lets see which one comes first. Enough money for new card or fixed drivers from Nvidia. :D



Since I upload and insert pictures only once in a blue moon I have not exactly cared to follow the latest trends of picture uploading. What is the latest way to do it? To me Photobucket has worked fine, atleast for direct
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Fixed is a stretch. The real "fix" was TW3 came out with a patch to adjust the level of tessellation.

That said, I don't think Kepler does too horribly in this game. Played for a few minutes on my old 680 at 1080p on the "high" preset and was averaging 45-60fps
 
RamonGTP said:
Fixed is a stretch. The real "fix" was TW3 came out with a patch to adjust the level of tessellation.

That said, I don't think Kepler does too horribly in this game. Played for a few minutes on my old 680 at 1080p on the "high" preset and was averaging 45-60fps
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The tesselation only affected Hairworks though. There was more going on with Keplers and Witcher 3 when it originally came out. Anyway, thats odd. Mine drops to 20-30 levels in a lot of situations on low-medium settings (trying to make the game run as smooth as possible) and my 770 is also heavily overclocked. Maybe there is something else going on in my system. Have you played through the foundry level yet?
 
MaZa said:
The tesselation only affected Hairworks though. There was more going on with Keplers and Witcher 3 when it originally came out. Anyway, thats odd. Mine drops to 20-30 levels in a lot of situations on low-medium settings (trying to make the game run as smooth as possible) and my 770 is also heavily overclocked. Maybe there is something else going on in my system. Have you played through the foundry level yet?
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I didn't play a whole lot so it's possible mine may drop that low or lower at some point. I'll load up Kadingir Sanctum later and see how it does there, I believe that was the most intensive level.
 
KazeoHin said:
Seriously. Google Sites lets you upload uncompressed, linkable images with no ads. Why people still use Imgr and photobucket I'll never know....
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I started using Imgur because every other image posting website allowed viruses to be uploaded back in the day. It was really terrible on Twitch especially when these bots would post images from everywhere else with viruses embedded into them. I haven't seen one since I started using Imgur. On Twitch we only click Imgur links and Youtube links. This Google Sites thing just as good huh? Guess I'll give it a try.
 
MaZa said:
The tesselation only affected Hairworks though. There was more going on with Keplers and Witcher 3 when it originally came out. Anyway, thats odd. Mine drops to 20-30 levels in a lot of situations on low-medium settings (trying to make the game run as smooth as possible) and my 770 is also heavily overclocked. Maybe there is something else going on in my system. Have you played through the foundry level yet?
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Sorry, I read right past your question about foundry in my last reply to you. I have not played through that on the 680 but I will and get back to you.
 
MaZa said:
The tesselation only affected Hairworks though. There was more going on with Keplers and Witcher 3 when it originally came out. Anyway, thats odd. Mine drops to 20-30 levels in a lot of situations on low-medium settings (trying to make the game run as smooth as possible) and my 770 is also heavily overclocked. Maybe there is something else going on in my system. Have you played through the foundry level yet?
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So I just played through foundry with an i5 2400 and an EVGA GTX 680 SC. 1080p, high settings and I never dipped below mid 30's anytime I glanced over at the FPS counter, and the only time I noticed it even get into the mid 30's was during the start of an animation sequence. It was mostly running 40-60 fps.
 
So I've noticed the framerate takes an abnormal hit in Hell in a few places (also one particular room earlier on), the problem appears to be CPU related going by the realtime stats. There must be some funky draw issue somewhere.
 
 
Kor said:
So I've noticed the framerate takes an abnormal hit in Hell in a few places (also one particular room earlier on), the problem appears to be CPU related going by the realtime stats. There must be some funky draw issue somewhere.
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Go to windows power settings, set your PC to high performance
 
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primetime said:
Seems fine to me.....But i been using adblock and disconnect so long I really dont even know if a site has horrible ads (disabled here of course)....poster was posting for the stats, instead of the image quality anyway

all he had to do was use the direct link and WOW NO ADS
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I'm able to play at 4k on Ultra with my 2xFurys (thought it seems Crossfire isn't enabled in the retail copy) in multiplayer or SnapMap matches (40-60fps), but single player it drops to 18-19 and hovers around 35 fps in lighter scenes. Hoping the move to Vulkan will fix my single player woes and then be able to play at 7680x2160 in multiplayer/snapmap rounds.
 
MotionBlur said:
I'm able to play at 4k on Ultra with my 2xFurys (thought it seems Crossfire isn't enabled in the retail copy) in multiplayer or SnapMap matches (40-60fps), but single player it drops to 18-19 and hovers around 35 fps in lighter scenes. Hoping the move to Vulkan will fix my single player woes and then be able to play at 7680x2160 in multiplayer/snapmap rounds.
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That's some resolution there. It must look pretty damn sweet.
 
Maddness said:
That's some resolution there. It must look pretty damn sweet.
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It is pretty sick looking (glad to finally find a game that puts the Furys to work in EyeFinity across both 4k screens I have), it's just unplayable with 2 Furys at the moment. Seems like nVidia is on top of the SLI issue right now, so hopefully AMD is right behind them.
 
RamonGTP said:
So I just played through foundry with an i5 2400 and an EVGA GTX 680 SC. 1080p, high settings and I never dipped below mid 30's anytime I glanced over at the FPS counter, and the only time I noticed it even get into the mid 30's was during the start of an animation sequence. It was mostly running 40-60 fps.
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Sorry for the late reply. I played the game again and it ran somewhat fine. Not perfect for my tastes but manageable. But back then it ran like shit though, especially when I hit the foundry level. I wonder what what was bogging my system down.
 
So, to let people know: I ran into some issues.

Spoiler alert: I am now running Doom at 4K, maximum (besides motion blur) settings including AA at 45-60+ FPS.

The long story: I have a 14 core Xeon processor. 28 HT threads. This game runs TERRIBLY when you have more than 12 threads. Even at minimum settings at 1080P I was hardly getting 50 FPS, lots of stutter and latency. I had to manually go into my BIOS and disable two of my cores, as well as disable HT, and now I'm getting "Couldn't ask for better" performance. Also, SLI technically works, and if I forced SLI to AFR1 or AFR2 in the Nvidia control panel, I got SUPER high FPS, But the game ran with 200 miliseconds (0.2 seconds) of latency, making it damn near impossible to play. This is with or without Vsync. If I disable SLI, I get decent FPS, but NO latency.

So, just to sum up: If your system has more than 12 threads: Do something to get rid of the extra threads if you want to play this game. This game also does not support SLI properly, so don't even try it.
 
KazeoHin said:
So, to let people know: I ran into some issues.

Spoiler alert: I am now running Doom at 4K, maximum (besides motion blur) settings including AA at 45-60+ FPS.

The long story: I have a 14 core Xeon processor. 28 HT threads. This game runs TERRIBLY when you have more than 12 threads. Even at minimum settings at 1080P I was hardly getting 50 FPS, lots of stutter and latency. I had to manually go into my BIOS and disable two of my cores, as well as disable HT, and now I'm getting "Couldn't ask for better" performance. Also, SLI technically works, and if I forced SLI to AFR1 or AFR2 in the Nvidia control panel, I got SUPER high FPS, But the game ran with 200 miliseconds (0.2 seconds) of latency, making it damn near impossible to play. This is with or without Vsync. If I disable SLI, I get decent FPS, but NO latency.

So, just to sum up: If your system has more than 12 threads: Do something to get rid of the extra threads if you want to play this game. This game also does not support SLI properly, so don't even try it.
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Check your power profile in control panel and make sure it's set to high performance and not balanced. I don't remember if it was this forum or another one where someone with a 12 threaded CPU ran into the same issue until he made the change in CP. Initially he thought HT was his problem.
 
RamonGTP said:
Check your power profile in control panel and make sure it's set to high performance and not balanced. I don't remember if it was this forum or another one where someone with a 12 threaded CPU ran into the same issue until he made the change in CP. Initially he thought HT was his problem.
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Nah, the power profile is set so that windows runs at absolute full CPU power as if there is a gun to its head.

12 threads are fine, it's any MORE than 12, and you have an issue.

Have a look at this graph, the 5960X (8 core/16 thread) destroys everything with HT disabled, yet falls to the bottom of the heap with HT enabled.

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KazeoHin said:
Nah, the power profile is set so that windows runs at absolute full CPU power as if there is a gun to its head.

12 threads are fine, it's any MORE than 12, and you have an issue.

Have a look at this graph, the 5960X (8 core/16 thread) destroys everything with HT disabled, yet falls to the bottom of the heap with HT enabled.

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Lol, those AMD cpu's are really kicking some ass. I Like that my 9590 is doing so well.
 
Sure if you consider barely matching non overclocked Haswell era cpu with 220W 5Ghz monster as "well".
 
JustReason said:
does any of what you said change that graph at all? No. So then yes it can be considered doing well.
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Nope feel free to keep being happy that AMD cpu at 4,7 Ghz still loses to i7 4770k which has 20-25% frequency overclocking reserve. Just make sure you have solid mobo that can survive several years of 200W power draw and cooler that can actual keep it from overheating.
 
Michaelius said:
Nope feel free to keep being happy that AMD cpu at 4,7 Ghz still loses to i7 4770k which has 20-25% frequency overclocking reserve. Just make sure you have solid mobo that can survive several years of 200W power draw and cooler that can actual keep it from overheating.
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And I have had my FX Mobo for going on 3.5 years now at 4.4-4.8Ghz (change at a whim and on the fly) and without LLC so powerdraw has been consistently high, as you put it. No issues or signs of issues. Thanks for your concern. As far as the rest: I get a solid >60fps play on my 60hz monitor in every game I play (Diablo3 right now). So tell me how getting any Intel is gonna make it any better.
 
On one hand it's ridiculous to me that someone replies so venomously to someone simply being happy their cpu is doing well, on the other hand I'm pretty sure you're going to run into some bottlenecks at some point. Obviously if every game you play is from 2010 you'll be fine, but some recent games are basically unplayable on amd cpus. I tried running Ark on a friend Fx8350 and it was just terrible. Granted Ark is heavily single thread bound, but so are most games.

Michaelius comes off as kind of an asshole though
 
Ieldra said:
On one hand it's ridiculous to me that someone replies so venomously to someone simply being happy their cpu is doing well, on the other hand I'm pretty sure you're going to run into some bottlenecks at some point. Obviously if every game you play is from 2010 you'll be fine, but some recent games are basically unplayable on amd cpus. I tried running Ark on a friend Fx8350 and it was just terrible. Granted Ark is heavily single thread bound, but so are most games.

Michaelius comes off as kind of an asshole though
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Honestly most of us FX owners know there will be hurdles to bound in some games. But we also know tweaking is a necessary aspect of FX ownership when attempting certain minimums in context. That is why I like my FX, nothing has been a burden when it comes to tweaking, that's the best part. To this day I haven't felt my CPU has held me back or given me pause to require looking at alternative upgrade paths. Besides I really don't want to own an Intel, my personal protest, hasn't stopped me from recommending their CPUs to others that do not share my aversion.
 
I second those FX sentiments! Hopefully Zen FX will change the game.

Note: I own team red, blue, and green products.
 
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