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Do we need a 3D mark 2007 yet?

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a400tdh

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Do we? I think the new generation pretty much overscored the 3dmark 2005 by alot already.
 
Id like a 3dmark 07, it would be cool just to see the futuristic graphics, even if they are at 20fps :)
 
One card still hasn't broken 10k by itself on stock... but yea There's so many different extreme combos that break 10k like SLI and oc'd cards.
 
Intel_Hydralisk said:
One card still hasn't broken 10k by itself on stock... but yea There's so many different extreme combos that break 10k like SLI and oc'd cards.
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I don't know of any single card that got over 10K marks, even overclocked.

(Even though someone may do it soon with a Geforce 7800GTX)
 
sculelos said:
I don't know of any single card that got over 10K marks, even overclocked.

(Even though someone may do it soon with a Geforce 7800GTX)
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I heard macci did or get close with his 904 mhz x850 xt pe? The 7800 GTX should when OC'd enough.
 
I didn't really think we needed a 3Dmark05. 3dMark03 had all the DX9 effects, and easily could have taken over as the next big benchmark. I mean the competitive benchers still use 01
 
01 has become a processor benchmark, and people were starting to score over 20k in 03, so everyone pretty much agreed that we needed a new benchmark that would challenge newer cards more. Basically, when the "most challengin graphics benchmark ever" is able to be run at 60fps, it needs to be updated.
 
Well, 7800GTX's in SLI do the 60FPS and extreme OC'd X850 in Crossfire do it too.

Futuremark needs to make it more of a system benchmark than just graphics, this is why 01 is still the most used in high end OCing, as it shows the system off more than the card(s).
 
No. What fundamentally new technology is it going to test?

64-bit CPUs? Not really video card-related.
SLI? Big deal, it's just the same stuff, only faster. A great technology, but doesn't need a new test.
SM3.0? It may be new to ATI, but Nvidia users have already got it. And no one's using it anyway.

There's just nothing new to really stress it, and score inflation doesn't strike me as a good reason to shell out for a new benchmark. (Anyone know whether it's the ads or the paid copies that make them their money?)

When unified shader architectures start showing up, then it's time for a new benchmark. Until then, 05 will do just fine.
 
Kevin Lowe said:
No. What fundamentally new technology is it going to test?

64-bit CPUs? Not really video card-related.
SLI? Big deal, it's just the same stuff, only faster. A great technology, but doesn't need a new test.
SM3.0? It may be new to ATI, but Nvidia users have already got it. And no one's using it anyway.

There's just nothing new to really stress it, and score inflation doesn't strike me as a good reason to shell out for a new benchmark. (Anyone know whether it's the ads or the paid copies that make them their money?)

When unified shader architectures start showing up, then it's time for a new benchmark. Until then, 05 will do just fine.
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SM3.0 does need to be used, the benchmark should be ahead of games. Also use of HDR, soft shadows and parallex mapping needs all to be used if its not already.

Also, a unified shader architecture does not actually mean new things. Just that the same pipeline does both vertex and pixel work.
 
3DMark05 does support SM3.0, HDR and softshadows.
There really is no new feature to test on the current cards. They're basically a refresh of the SM3.0 generation (and for ATi it will be the first).
 
Skrying said:
SM3.0 does need to be used, the benchmark should be ahead of games. Also use of HDR, soft shadows and parallex mapping needs all to be used if its not already.

Also, a unified shader architecture does not actually mean new things. Just that the same pipeline does both vertex and pixel work.
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Isn't the third graphics test in 3Dmark05 a HDR test with SM2.0? (the one with the flying airship)
 
[A]MD-Fan said:
Isn't the third graphics test in 3Dmark05 a HDR test with SM2.0? (the one with the flying airship)
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Hmm, didnt really know, honestly couldnt card less. Its ugly as hell with all the jaggies!
 
a400tdh said:
Do we? I think the new generation pretty much overscored the 3dmark 2005 by alot already.
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Hey, as long as it will tell me for sure which video card is going to get the fatest Quake III score, I say we go for it! Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! :p
 
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