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Do the Catalyst support mobile ati chipsets?

inotocracy

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Got my new laptop lastnight with an X600 chipset, and tried to install the latest Catalyst but it wouldnt allow me to. Any special steps required to install ATI drivers? Ive never owned an ATI card so im not familiar with the quirks-- been an nVidia owner since the TNT2, thanks in advance!
 
Catalysts are only for desktop graphics cards. According to ATI, you are supposed to get your video drivers from the laptop manufacturer because the laptop drivers are "customized". In real life, however, it is possible to run the omega drivers on most laptops. Check to make sure yours is supported before trying to install them (or make a system restore point).
 
Well I ended up just extracting the drivers and doing the upgrade manually, they didnt have a selection for X600 Mobile, but they had a selection for X600 Family so I chose that. I still have the mobility functions in the control panel and they seem to work fine. The cp is also reporting the versions correctly as the 5.3 cats :)
 
inotocracy said:
Ive never owned an ATI card so im not familiar with the quirks-- been an nVidia owner since the TNT2

Yes my son, enlightenment will come to those who wait.

:)
 
Scali said:
Yes my son, enlightenment will come to those who wait.

:)

Hehe, I still prefer nVidia chips. Maybe if ATi had better Linux support then it would be a different story :) But im satisified with the overall performance of the X600 mobile, lappy plays CS:S very well at 1280x800 and it looks very nice :)
 
Well, perhaps if linux would finally become decent enough to be able to grab a decent marketshare, then ATi and other vendors can finally invest in drivers for that OS :)
But I don't see that happening.
Even NV must have had their doubts after seeing the results of Doom3 on linux, compared to Windows... What have they been bothering for :)
 
Scali said:
Well, perhaps if linux would finally become decent enough to be able to grab a decent marketshare, then ATi and other vendors can finally invest in drivers for that OS :)
But I don't see that happening.
Even NV must have had their doubts after seeing the results of Doom3 on linux, compared to Windows... What have they been bothering for :)

Hehe, not sure exactly what you talking about. Linux is gaining ground, and fast. Doom3 runs fantastic on nVidia hardware and Linux, look at the benchmarks. All of iD's engines always run beautifully on Linux, and they are smart to port. Everyone in the open source community loves iD for this. The same goes for nVidia, everyone in the open source community loves them for the support they give to Linux-- its too bad the drivers are binary only, but regardless they're doing it right. And I believe ATi has poor OpenGL support even on Windows, so purhaps poor Linux support is not because Linux's share in the market but because of their lack for proper OpenGL implementation.

And PS: If I had an extra $150 I would have chose the 6600go chipset to go with my lappy.
 
inotocracy said:
Hehe, not sure exactly what you talking about. Linux is gaining ground, and fast.

Yea, that's what I've been hearing for the past 10 years, but I've not really seen much of it.

Doom3 runs fantastic on nVidia hardware and Linux, look at the benchmarks.

That's what I mean... the benchmarks showed that it was still about 20% behind on the Windows version (even if a 64 bit custom-compiled linux was used vs a 32 bit Windows).

And I believe ATi has poor OpenGL support even on Windows, so purhaps poor Linux support is not because Linux's share in the market but because of their lack for proper OpenGL implementation.

ATi gets a lot of flack for their OGL, but it's not that bad really. It's not like Quake or Doom3 run worse on ATi cards than on NV cards (at least in Windows).
And ATi's professional cards are not all that much slower than the Quadro's either.
It's probably more a case of hardware architecture than OGL driver problems.
 
Linux is gaining ground, the first Linux kernel was released late 1991 and since then there has been thousands of people contributing to its development. Companies are slowly embrassing open source, the main reason its taken a while to gain ground is because there hasnt been many big companies backing Linux. But now with open source applications that offer the same functionality as closed-source products (Office, IE, etc.), and big business starting to recognize the power of Linux it will continue to gain ground. As soon as there is an open-source application for every closed-source application on Windows so that the average Joe Blo feels comfortable Linux will be accepted by the average user. Its funny but gaming plays a big part in the switch, and I know there is WineX (Cadega) that allows you to play most Windows based games but we need more native ports. Some people just dont want to give up Windows because of the lack of big name games for Linux. I promise you that Linux will be a major alternative very soon :)
 
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