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Do it yourself linux?

sorry are you trying to get into linux, by building it from scratch?? I have never tried, it but I imagine if there is a more complicated install process then gentoo.

if you really are trying to get into linux, then may I suggest ubuntu, suse, debian, something......
 
ive done gentoo and lfs...if you cant do gentoo...well...you should take the previous posters advice.
 
You failed to get Gentoo installed...so now you want to build an entire Linux from the ground up? I would recommend against it, unless you had a lot of free time, and are very open to punishment and disappointment. It will probably take more than a single weekend. At least with gentoo all you have to do is follow the install guide, that's all you gotta do (just install stage 3, seriously).

With LFS, you gotta read the huge manual, invest more time, and you might get angry.
 
done LFS more for a case of "i did it"
prefer Gentoo since it has a package-manager
 
I've doen LFS as well, and if you can't get a distro to install, then you will have issue with LFS. I haven't tried LFS since 4.0somethinng, but it took about three days not counting BLFS steps.
 
I have to agree with the others... LFS is great to learn, but only after you've mastered other distros.

Additionally, trying to manage LFS is nearly impossible unless that is all you do with your time. (If you are looking to become a Linux dev., then fine.) Otherwise, move on to a distro with a good pkg management system like Fedora or Debian. :)
 
Lord of Shadows said:
Isnts gentoo's stage1 install pretty much the same thing?
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Not really, a Gentoo stage 1 install, although requiring many group-up level steps in much the same way as LFS, is quite a bit different then trying the LFS approach as a whole.

Gentoo and LFS are really different beasts. All though many people consider Gentoo to be 'hard' to work with, the fact that it actually features a package manager puts it way below the concept of LFS as far as complexity (at least initially, who's to say you could'nt write and install your own package manager? :)).

LFS is a way to learn, not a way to look at building all your desktop systems. It's a means to come up with ideas for distributions, not to use as a distribution. At least that is my take on it.
 
Tweakin said:
Not really, a Gentoo stage 1 install, although requiring many group-up level steps in much the same way as LFS, is quite a bit different then trying the LFS approach as a whole.

Gentoo and LFS are really different beasts. All though many people consider Gentoo to be 'hard' to work with, the fact that it actually features a package manager puts it way below the concept of LFS as far as complexity (at least initially, who's to say you could'nt write and install your own package manager? :)).

LFS is a way to learn, not a way to look at building all your desktop systems. It's a means to come up with ideas for distributions, not to use as a distribution. At least that is my take on it.
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It's also for those who want to customize the OS from the start. And plan to use it for a long time.
 
Lord of Shadows said:
Isnts gentoo's stage1 install pretty much the same thing?
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Well, true that you build everything from source (stage 1 is just all that stuff like bootstrapping compiler and the system), but at least with Gentoo you have emerge/portage at your command which heavily automates things for you.

If you read the LFS handbook, you'll realize everything is pretty much manual, one by one kind of stuff, and a whole lot of "you choose this" kind of stuff. The intended purpose of LFS is to build a distro tailored to your desires, but without having experienced a proper Linux install (or several), what do you actually want out of your Linux experience?

I have never completed an LFS build (sure I glanced at the manual, but time is important and my general Linuxing is well-served by several existing distros), but perhaps if I had a second comp ;), I think I would look more deeply at LFS in starting a distro. :p
 
A stage 1 gentoo install is nothing like LFS. With LFS your doing a lot more boot-strapping that gentoo takes care of for you. Even the stage 1 tarball contains some of the things you would have to have made your self when doing it by the LFS book. portage helps as well as it was mentioned.
 
As others have said if you're looking at getting into Linux then LFS is definitely not the way you want to go. I'd go with Ubuntu or Suse or if you want that extra 1337 feeling you can go with Debian, it's a bit rougher around the edges (a bit)... I've had a lot of luck with Ubuntu and I've almost fully switched over to it from Windows because I have a program or two that don't run 100% properly under Wine.

Good luck man, hope it goes well.
 
Worst of all, I think he did a stage 3 gentoo, as stage 1 and 2 aren't supported... STAY away from LFS...
 
Stage 1 and 2 are deprecated, by the way. :) Just do stage 3 and emerge -e {system,world} to affect changes to CFLAGS and such after the stage 3 is done (but before you start merging new stuff).
 
I didn't know stage 1 was not supported, I guess I'll try a stage three then with gentoo this weekend or give up and install Debian.
 
Thanks for the input guys, I decided to get Debian on my laptop. I'll stick with the baby steps from here on out, seeing out I am trying to take on too much at once.
 
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