Do I have enough cooling?

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darkhunter139

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Here is my setup, I do not plan on over clocking, maybe a bit but I am not sure how much OCing if any my motherboard can handle.

Here is the CPU fan I have

http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186134

Will just that extra fan be enough (and the ones that come in the case) and do you recommend using thermal gel?

SAMSUNG 20X DVD±R DVD Burner Black SATA Model SH-S203B - OEM

NZXT Apollo Red SECC Steel Chassis ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail

Western Digital Caviar RE WD2500YS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM

EVGA 512-P3-N801-AR GeForce 8800GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail

Antec EA650 ATX12V Ver.2.2 / EPS12V version 2.91 650W Power Supply - Retail

G.SKILL 4GB(2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail

ABIT IP35-E LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz 2 x 4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor - Retail
 
you mean HSF right? Well if your looking for cheap cooling you might want to look at some yate loon's 120mm ones. I ordered me an ninja scythe s-flex something. Great reviews for good air flow and low noise. If you just put two 120mm fans, one in the front sucking and one in the back blowing, that should be enough.
 
You dont think what I have right now is enough? (The two that come with my case and the CPU fan)
 
your fine.

yes you need a thermal interface material (TIM). Its not optional. If you do not use it you will over heat.
 
well what size are the fans? and how are they set up? Also yeah, the tim is necessary. AS5, or tuniq tx-2 are the top.
 
Alright well it seems as far as fans your good for now if your not doing much OC'ing. Basically to apply the AS5 you unmount your HSF. You'll need some isopropyl alcohol that's a minimum of 95% pure to 99%. Use that with some cotton swabs to remove any residue of the original tim between the processor and your HSF. Clean it up until you see all the shiny metal, then you apply a line of AS5 to the processor. If your pc is already running, there should already been some sort of paste in there. If you don't feel comfortable in removing the heatsink and stuff and your not OC'ing you should be fine with the stuff already pre-applied. All heatsinks come with some sort of stuff, and from what I heard your heatsink comes with mx-2 which is pretty good stuff.
 
darkhunter139 said:
Wait in the instructions for the artic cooler I got (http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186134)
It says to remove resdue from CPU, I am really confused now

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And I got a intel core 2 quad q6600 processor. I opened up the box but cant seem to see any paste in there. Where would it be in the box if it did come with it?
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If you got an OEM processor, it's not likely to come with any paste. You say you have a retail CPU? So you'll have to remove the stock heatsink/fan (HSF) from your CPU and then "remove the residue" (scrape it off - using something plastic, like your library card - or peel it off, then clean with some isopropyl alcohol and a qtip). Considering the questions you're asking, I'd just stick with the stock HSF for now and call it good. Maybe practice on some olde computers before tinkering with this one.

But, should you endeavor to persevere...

Your HSF should come with some already applied. Refer to the third image in the newegg link for the arctic cooling 7 you mentioned. See the grey round-cornered rectangle in that pic? that's the stuff. It is likely covered with a piece of plastic that you need to peel off prior to use, read the Arctic Cooling instructions very carefully 5 times before you do attempt assembly.
 
Darkhunter
the abit board is a damn good over clocker I have the pro version of it and its easy to oc using it.
the HSF you picked freezer pro 7 will be fine for a light OC lets say 3ghz maybe 3.2 with a voltage bump.
as for the TIM its already applied to the heatsink the grey stuff on the bottom of the cooler don't scrap it off its good stuff.

with a set up like that it would be almost a sin to not OC it to at least 3ghz.

I personally would add 1 more fan, a front intake fan 120mm if it was me. I would move the rear stock fan to the front and then get a better fan for the rear something that moves a lot of air out
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835220015
its adjustable so you can set it to where you like it but if you need it crank it up to the max and cool the hell out of the case/cpu

I just built damn near the same computer your doing now.
only real differences are the case and cpu cooler I went with.
I picked a full tower to make it easy to cool and hide all the cables and I went with a Tuniq tower 120 cpu cooler and I went with a mid level oc for 24/7 use it will oc to 3.4ghz fine but I don't want to run it that hard for the first few weeks of use. and my idle temps are 26c-30c full load is 45c-47c so the cooler is doing a damn good job I did bump the cpu volts to 1.38 for stability and prime 95ed it for 12 hrs "I had to move my side fan to the out side of the case door so the case would close the cooler is that big"

q6600 @3.2ghz
8 gig A-Data DDR2 800
Abit IP35 pro
2 x wd 250 gig SATA raid 0
XFX 8800 gt
neo he 550 watt
Samsung 20x
Apevia X-alien case
Tuniq tower 120 cpu cooler
 
( Wait in the instructions for the artic cooler I got (http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16835186134)
It says to remove resdue from CPU, I am really confused now

EDIT:

And I got a intel core 2 quad q6600 processor. I opened up the box but cant seem to see any paste in there. Where would it be in the box if it did come with it? )






the cpu will not have any thermal compound on it it is already on the fan/heatsink you picked and like I said its good stuff leave it on " the grey square patch on the copper bottom don't touch it leave it alone"I think its MX-1 or MX-2 compound one of the best thermal compounds if you ask me.

the main complaint I saw for the cpu you cooler you picked is the cheap push pins to fasten it to the main board some say they don't hold it in place very well.
I almost ordered the same cpu cooler as you but at the last min I changed my mind. so I read everything I could on it.

when you install it do so outside of the case that way you can make sure the push pins go all the way down.
and look at the air flow so you know what way to point it you want the air blowing out the back of the case threw the 120mm fan
http://www.arctic-cooling.com/cpu2.php?idx=79&disc=
 
Ok thanks guys! I understand now.

So you think my motherboard could oc to 3ghz? If so I might as well try it. I can monitor my CPU temp to make sure everything is going alright correct?

Also is it ok to but the processor and CPU can in before I put my motherboard into the chasis?
 
I think you should do a little more research before overclocking. Start with building your computer properly, and making sure everything works and is running cool. Ensure that you know how to install windows and the proper monitoring software for CPU/GPU and chipset temperatures (like Core Temp and Rivatuner).

This is a good building guide: http://www.corsair.com/systembuild/report.aspx?report_id=12472&sid=1

Note that this is for a 939 system, and not 775. The Intel CPUs install a little differently. Also, the preferred method of applying thermal paste is a small drop in the center, not "spreading it around." The guy who wrote this article used way too much.

Overclocking is an art form. Come back when everything is all built, and then we can talk about pushing it up to higher speeds.
 
3ghz would be easy with that set up.

you really need to do some reading on how to OC a quad core cpu http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=515316

to learn how to OC try to take it easy till your comfortable with oc'ing.


the quick and dirty of it is

hit delete when booting up you computer
now you see your bios screen
first thing on the list is uGuru "that's a abit thing"
now enter the uguru and look for user setting for the FSB I think its the first thing on the list again.
ok now set the FSB to lets say 250mhz "this is a really low oc and its safe to start with"
save your setting hit F10 and let it boot up into windows.
now load core temp to keep a eye on the temperatures and load prime95v245 to test for stability and heat.
let prime95 run for a while "I let it go 30 min or so"
congratulations you just over clocked your cpu.

leave the voltage setting and all the rest alone till your really comfortable with over clocking and have read everything you can on it.

after your conferrable with your first oc try again increasing the FSB a little at a time increasing it 10mhz at a time and testing with prime95 till you get a error then back off 5mhz
you may get lucky and your cpu will hit 3.2 or better with out touching the voltage settings. mine hit 3.15ghz with out any extra voltage

again read the page I gave you a link to its a really good place to start and this forum has some great info also just do a search.
 
darkhunter139 said:
Ok thanks guys! I understand now.

So you think my motherboard could oc to 3ghz? If so I might as well try it. I can monitor my CPU temp to make sure everything is going alright correct?

Also is it ok to but the processor and CPU can in before I put my motherboard into the chasis?
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yes you can put the cpu and heatsink on the main board before you install it in the case it will not hurt a thing.
 
-=Antimatter=- said:
I think you should do a little more research before overclocking. Start with building your computer properly, and making sure everything works and is running cool. Ensure that you know how to install windows and the proper monitoring software for CPU/GPU and chipset temperatures (like Core Temp and Rivatuner).

This is a good building guide: http://www.corsair.com/systembuild/report.aspx?report_id=12472&sid=1

Note that this is for a 939 system, and not 775. The Intel CPUs install a little differently. Also, the preferred method of applying thermal paste is a small drop in the center, not "spreading it around." The guy who wrote this article used way too much.

Overclocking is an art form. Come back when everything is all built, and then we can talk about pushing it up to higher speeds.
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the way thermal paste is applied has changed again. for quad cores a line is used not a drop and it goes on a certain directions so it spreads out across all 4 cores when the cooler is clamped down.

I have tried it a few different ways and the single line seams to give you a better coverage across all the cores.
 
Also since I put an after market CPU fan (isnt the heat sink attached to that?lol) I am going to need a tube of thermal right?
 
darkhunter139 said:
Ok where can I get temp monitoring software?
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in your first post you linked to a freezer pro 7 cpu cooler it has thermal compound already on it so you don't need a tube of thermal compound.

the cpu cooler, heatsink / fan, HSF are all the same thing or parts of the same thing. people just use different terminology for them it may be confusing at first.
 
mangyrat said:
in your first post you linked to a freezer pro 7 cpu cooler it has thermal compound already on it so you don't need a tube of thermal compound.

the cpu cooler, heatsink / fan, HSF are all the same thing or parts of the same thing. people just use different terminology for them it may be confusing at first.
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Oh ok so my freezer pro 7 has thermal compound on it? Nice
 
Ok I just want to make sure I am running at a good temp

Each of my cores is running at about 46C is that good?
 
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