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I just got an xbox. my girl refuses to let me put it on our big screen.(claims she'll never be able to watch TVagain)(she's right) I'm in need of a new monitor for my computer, and I would like to play xbox on that same screen. I'd like to get something big for the xbox, but I dont want my computer games to look crappy. Is there a 37" or so TV out there with 1080p(a must) that would also look good playing computer games on?

I did use to have my comp on my 61" DLP, and I thought it looked pretty good. So i'm guessing this is possible.

what are you guys experiences with this? what TV would you recommend?

I went to newegg. look at this list.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...40411 138982080 138902005 1389027312&name=32"

the 120hz LG looks good. you think any of the cheaper screens would work just as well?
 
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His thread is fine as it relates to Xbox 360 & PC use. Most people base there search on keywords in the OP's thread title. The thread that you are linking to does not list the Xbox 360, Display, or Computer in its title. He can use the other thread as it does have some relation to what he is looking for, but his thread is fine.
 
Thank you dark. I did search. But also thank you to the other poster for the link.
 
Yeah. I followed that link and it had nothing to do with the spacific question of the LCD working well with pc. Maybe that should be my question. Since pretty much any TV works well with a console. What's the best performing TV for PC? Input lag would be a big factor I guess...
 
Lawl, my thread does relate cause i decided to go HDTV vs Monitor for a pc display as well with my ps3.... Yes if you want to talk HDTV's to buy go to my thread he linked above....
Furthermore i have been using a 37" hdtv as a pc monitor for over a year now... To answer your question when i find on my thread the HDTV that i'm gonna buy, you'll have your HDTV as well. I've been reviewing CNET and in person at best buy like mad lately and will continue to do so till i buy around November/December...

Quote from my thread: "I do sit 4-6 feet from it. It's primary usage will be as a computer monitor, but i also have it hooked to my PS3 for Blu-ray...."
 
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Lawl, no.

You limited your selection to HDTV's in the opening post and thread title, regardless if both ps3 and pc will be connected, this thread is about a much wider selection.

Personally I'm interested myself. I wonder how 24" lcd monitors compare to regular 1080p 40~" hdtvs, and if it's work the extra 200 or 250 dollars.
 
Well, with monitors at 24", you better make sure that you're buying yourself a non-TN monitor. Nowadays the market is flooded with these.

A 24" monitor might have some trouble with 1:1 mapping and dealing with overscan. You also have to factor in that the kind of connectivity on an HDTV you have to get separately if you go the monitor route.

The last factor is just how far will you be sitting from the screen when you game on console. If it's nearfield, then you don't need nor do you want a massive 1080p HDTV.
 
Ideally I want to use the monitor for PS3 and a computer, so likely an HDMI in and another HDMI or DVI in as well. I don't particularly care if there's VGA or not. 1920x1200 or 1080 is fine. Need 1:1 mapping for blu ray videos. And finally, distance isn't a problem, just IQ. I'm fine w/o a huge 42" hdtv as long as I get a quality monitor that lasts awhile. At least this way I can justify waiting for and HDTV until they get much better. Also I heard someone say that their non TN panel monitor was like looking at a book, in the sense of minimal eye strain. I do plan on using my display a lot, so this also is a BIG plus if there's validity in that comment.

What I'm asking is, is the IQ of the non TN panels worth the price compared to HDTVs? Particularly 24fps juddering, viewing angles, response times, contrast, and EYE STRAIN worry me. (I don't do any image editing at all fyi)
 
Lawl yes, the day before the HDTV post i put a thread up about which to go with a HDTV or monitor, you can get the 3007wfp-HC for $800 as you already know.
 
3007wfp-HC for $800 vs LC32GP3U-R 1080p 32" at $600 CAD for me is a rather painful decision actually.

On one hand, the 3007wfc is a great monitor without a doubt. S-IPS 2560x1600 is nothing to sneer at and it's got a gorgeous tour de force of a panel.

On the other hand, the LC32GP3U 32" is a ASV panel beast. This is a panel that Sharp holds against S-IPS, although it is supposedly a derivative of A-MVA.


Yannis on ASV forum stated that:

S-IPS

Color Reproduction Great
Contrast Fair
Viewing Angle Good
Motion (Response-Time) Good


ASV

Color Reproduction Great
Contrast Great
Viewing Angle Good
Motion (Response-Time) Great


And this is what Sharp stated about the two technologies:

Q. How does Sharp Advanced Super View compare to SuperIPS?
A. Both techniques are used to achieve wide viewing cones. Advanced Super View has the best color uniformity on the diagonals as well as superior response times and contrast ratios. The off-axis gamma curves for SuperIPS is slightly better than Advanced Super View. The patents for SuperIPS are held by Hitachi in Japan
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I went with the 1080p Sharp since the added functionality in having a HDTV tuner and that this HDTV won't need the graphic power that the 3007wfp requires won out.
 
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That is complete BS. I checked out a ton of TVs in January before buying mine.

Sharp ASV panels have the worse viewing angles I have seen. Worse than MVA/PVA and way worse than IPS. If you looking at TVs compare that sharp to a Panasonic TV with IPS panels. Blows the sharp out of the water.
 
You're not basing your purchase just by instore floor displays are you? I don't know about you, but I'd be weary of what places such as BB would do in order to sell certain floor models. I noticed SIPS doing well against the MVA in color reproduction personally.
 
Generally it is harder to notice viewing angle issues in store. It was blatantly obvious on the Sharp TVs and it would only be worse if I took it home. ASV is not a variant of IPS it is a *VA variant and a poor one at that.
 
I may not have worded myself correctly. Sorry about that.

When I stated that
This is a panel that Sharp holds against S-IPS, although it is supposedly a derivative of A-MVA.,
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I meant to say that ASV's an alternate form of A-MVA, a successor to MVA. This supposedly improves color washout and provides better image quality in oblique angles than conventional VA LCD's. AU Optronics is involved with its development.

Sharp sees ASV or AMVA as the way to compete against S-IPS. Of course, snowdog is right about how that you have to see it and specs are just BS, because what's on paper and even just the panel themselves aren't good enough to assess the quality of a final HDTV product. The color processor and the graphic engine, along with the circuit are all contributing factors.

LC32GP3U is a much talked about gaming HDTV/monitor on [H], over http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1259899 actually, so on this particular monitor I will stick to what I said.
 
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Reimu said:
I may not have worded myself correctly. Sorry about that.

When I stated that

I meant to say that ASV's an alternate form of A-MVA, a successor to MVA. This supposedly improves color washout and provides better image quality in oblique angles than conventional VA LCD's. AU Optronics is involved with its development.

Sharp sees ASV or AMVA as the way to compete against S-IPS. Of course, snowdog is right about how that you have to see it and specs are just BS, because what's on paper and even just the panel themselves aren't good enough to assess the quality of a final HDTV product. The color processor and the graphic engine, along with the circuit are all contributing factors.

LC32GP3U is a much talked about gaming HDTV/monitor on [H], over http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1259899 actually, so on this particular monitor I will stick to what I said.
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Had one (the "2" model, but I think the same panel) for 30 days that I really had wanted to like, but...

ASV

Color Reproduction Great -- Unlikely, but probably it's ok...(whites yellowing at even slight angles put a damper on the festivities...)

Contrast Great -- Not great (you'll need LED local dimming to merit such a superlative), but probably superior to many/most dedicated computer monitors as TVs often are...

Viewing Angle Good -- No, sorry, awful in this respect...

Motion (Response-Time) Great -- They're advertising on this, so hopefully that's so...again, likely not great (would that make a CRT magnificent?), but presumably superior to many other flat panels...

EDIT: Contrast ratio of 878:1 (PC Mag review) is respectable for an S-PVA based computer display, but, alas, low for a television...
 
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Well, with that specific panel, the response for GP2U wasn't as positive as GP3U actually. 3 reportedly had its internal electronics completely reworked, with only the panel itself being retained. I didn't see the GP2U in person so I can't really comment on it. I do trust pcmag's numbers thou. The numbers claimed by Sharp's at 2000:1 for image contrast ratio, 10000:1 dynamic contrast, which really... like every manufacturer specs, can be questionable.

Nevertheless, you almost can't go wrong with the 30" dell monster. The only problems are with driving this beast and able to justify the purchase. Unfortunately, if you were to play 360 on this thing, you will see the black bar and you wouldn't be using this screen to all that it's meant to be.
 
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SH1 said:
Had one (the "2" model, but I think the same panel) for 30 days that I really had wanted to like, but...

Viewing Angle Good -- No, sorry, awful in this respect...
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Yep. Exactly what I saw in store. My local FS has about 100 LCDs on display. The Sharps were notable in their inferior viewing angles. Which is saying something because it is harder to notice the way they have the panels set up.

Amoung TVs for viewing angle: IPS>PVA>MVA>ASV.

The Panasonic IPS were really head an shoulders above the rest. If I were buying a TV for computer use, I would check them out first.
 
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...The Panasonic IPS were really head an shoulders above the rest. If I were buying a TV for computer use, I would check them out first.
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I would agree to the extent of the Panasonic's superior viewing angles. I'm a purist on the text issue though. Last I heard they hadn't sorted that out, but I haven't looked for a while...
 
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