Display Advice Needed

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Limp Gawd
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Alright, well I’ve read so much that I’m now just getting disgusted with LCDs.
I’ve been looking for a new monitor and as soon as I narrow it down I find unacceptable flaws – and I don’t even have that high expectations. A quick history of lcds for me.

When I purchased my first LCD monitor about 3 years ago, I luckily and randomly ordered a dell 2007WFP. About half a year ago, I picked up a 22” SP220WFP as an upgrade – or so I thought. The colors were way more washed out, the brightness was terrible. Overall, it was a much inferior monitor to my original 2007wfp. My curiosity pushed me to learn about why these two monitors were of such differing qualities as all the advertised specs seemed similar if not better. So I read a bunch of information to get a better understanding and I’ve learned how important the actual panel quality is and how relevant it is to the final product. So from what I understand IPS panels are of the highest quality in terms of color reproduction and viewing angles.

I don’t want a downgrade to an inferior panel, but my question to the knowledgeable people at [h], especially the freakin’ display master, ToastyX, is the IPS panel best suited for me?

I’m not a graphic designer, so the truest color isn’t too important – I just want pictures and movies to look like the actual color, the SP220WFP was terrible compared side by side with the 2007wfp. I don’t want or need Wide Gamut, and from further reading I realize this is actually more of a con than a neutral feature.

I will mainly be using this monitor for PC computing and gaming. A very important aspect for me is text, I read very often on my computer, so something that has sharp text is a must. I want to be able to play Playstation 3 on this monitor. So viewing angles are important, I’ll be playing 6-8 feet away. The size is somewhat relevant; I’m looking between a 23’-27’. My budget is roughly $500-900. The only ports I need are either 2 DVI, or DVI and HDMI – composite video is preferred but not needed.

So is IPS monitor the best route for me? Any recommendations on specific monitors that match what I’m looking for? I will gladly research more information, but I want it to generally match what I’m looking for. Your help is greatly appreciated as this is just getting ridiculous trying to find the right monitor.

Thanks!
 
I was sold on that monitor, read the huge 25 page thread.

Banding with ps3 and no one really could comment on how bad that was. That was the deal breaker, also one DVI only was slightly disappointing. Wish more users could comment on quality with PS3 or X360 on that one.
 
It has trouble in 1080p mode and AFAIK only 1080p mode. The black areas aren't quite. I saw a picture of it somewhere...how much of a nuisance it is would depend strongly on room lighting and viewing distance IMO.
 
What does AFAIK mean?

I would normally play in a dark room and 6-8 feet away - but I'm not sure how lighting and viewing distance affect it, can you please explain.
 
You'll be more likely to see it if the environment is dark. Less likely if you're further away. Optics. :D

I'm told it also varies significantly from display to display. Annoying...I like consistency. :p
 
a decade on the Internets and I didn't even know that. kinda disappointed in myself.
 
Yes sir. :D

The only way to be *sure* that you have *no* issues with the black bars is to get a monitor that has a native res which won't need buffering. How about repurposing a nice 1080p HDTV?
 
Hmm, well it's not the black bars I care about it's the "banding" issue; which does not sound appealing in the slightest. I really wanted an all in one as I don't really watch TV, I only would play my PS3 on it. But this seems like probably the best route for me. Any specific models you could recommend to look into? I guess from 27-32" probably is large enough.
 
I think there was...hmm, there was a good 28" one I saw earlier. Let me look...

Note that when you start flirting with 30" in computer monitors, the res goes up another step and hoses most graphics cards if you want to do any gaming.
 
Yea, that's why I wanted to keep it somewhat small originally between 23-26 if I was to get an all in one LCD monitor. If I was going to get an HDTV probably go up a bit. That new doublesight 26 S-IPS panel looks appealing, I should wait until it's actually released before jumping on another.
 
It's released, I think...just few people with one in hand yet to give us results. Personally, DoubleSight sounds a little unappealing as a company. I'd rather go with the Planar and take my chances with getting a unit without the banding problem...apparently it's only bad on a few of 'em and for a few people.

Dell 3007 is S-IPS if you don't mind the shitty lag. Only other problem is that it will eat your budget alive.
 
Hmm, I didn't realize that it's banding only on some of them. I thought this was just a flaw with the current technology. You're right Planar seemed like a much better overall company than DoubleSight. Damn I might have gave up on Planar to quickly, I didn't get any other responses on that banding issue in the thread, other than the initial posting by ToastyX.
 
I think it's some sort of variation in the controller that doesn't properly filter the signal when it's low for wide spans of addresses. It might tend to correlate with the manufacturing batch. I could be reading too much into it.

Well, I ordered one earlier today - if I remember, I'll comment somewhere on how it works whenever it shows up. XSi too so I can probably take some interesting shots (if I get around to cleaning off my desk first lolz).
 
that would be excellent, I am awaiting patiently for some comments from you.
 
Well, what about BenQ G2400W(D)? Very good for a TN monitor.
Or HP LP2475w, a new H-IPS monitor with a good price.
But both are "only" 24", if you want larger pixels, you have to go for something larger. And I'm not that familiar with 25.5"+ monitors (except for NEC 2690 which is out of your budget.).
 
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