Difference between 7800GT and x1800xl

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Difference between 7800GT and x1800xl

Whats the performance difference?
 
although this is technically a 7800gtx review, the benches include the 7800gt and 1800xl. it should give you an idea.
 
AMDXPCottonFire22 said:
Difference between 7800GT and x1800xl

Whats the performance difference?
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stock for stock 7800gt FTW, overclocked is a different story...i would take the x1800XL
 
Andross182 said:
stock for stock 7800gt FTW, overclocked is a different story...i would take the x1800XL
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Hm, that's interesting. I have heard that the XLs weren't really that good overclockers. Not so?
 
whoa whoa whoa....treading on some thin ice here.

lets not make this ati v. nvidia.
 
At stock the 7800GT will perform better than the X1800XL. That being said, with a little overclocking and without changing the cooling (or voltage) the X1800XL will probably pull to about equal or possibly a bit more performance than an overclocked 7800gt. That doesn't mean that the ati card couldn't eclipse the 7800 in a couple of driver releases though. In the end, you probably won't be able to tell the difference between the cards whether it be IQ or performance. So what it really comes down to is personal preference.

For me I would get the 7800. This is mainly because I like nvidia. I like having endless display options and good linux support in the drivers. I also like eVGA's warrenty and step-up program. You can't beat overclocking and cooler change being covered under warrenty.

The X1800XL is also tempting. I rarely get a chance to visit the red side, so the thrill of something new is definitly there. I like what they are doing with the memory controler and some of the AVIVO features are alright. What has my mouth watering most is the chance to overclock one of these beasts with some dry ice and really put up some big numbers (but I hear they have the cold bug so dry ice would probably be a no go).
 
i feel that in a few driver releases the x1800xl OC'ed will eclipse out the 7800GT mainly because of the new architecture tweaks they can do, (hell weve already seen a 35%+ bump in openGL rendering)

Right now i run 2x7800GT's in sli, but im waiting for the day i can snag either a decent DFI crossfire solution, or an asus one and go 2xx1800xt or r580s in crossfire
 
If they were the exact same price I might give the edge to the x1800xl for it's overclocking headroom...but with 7800gt's available for $300, I have to recommend it over the x1800xl...
 
Flak Monkey said:
At stock the 7800GT will perform better than the X1800XL. That being said, with a little overclocking and without changing the cooling (or voltage) the X1800XL will probably pull to about equal or possibly a bit more performance than an overclocked 7800gt. That doesn't mean that the ati card couldn't eclipse the 7800 in a couple of driver releases though. In the end, you probably won't be able to tell the difference between the cards whether it be IQ or performance. So what it really comes down to is personal preference.

For me I would get the 7800. This is mainly because I like nvidia. I like having endless display options and good linux support in the drivers. I also like eVGA's warrenty and step-up program. You can't beat overclocking and cooler change being covered under warrenty.

The X1800XL is also tempting. I rarely get a chance to visit the red side, so the thrill of something new is definitly there. I like what they are doing with the memory controler and some of the AVIVO features are alright. What has my mouth watering most is the chance to overclock one of these beasts with some dry ice and really put up some big numbers (but I hear they have the cold bug so dry ice would probably be a no go).
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QFT, very very nice advice ;)
 
V99 said:
QFT, very very nice advice ;)
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Agreed.
One thing that I like on the x1800 is HDR16+AA (These games: sc3, serious sam 2, aoe3, Farcry). Games look like sh** without AA and buying a highend card you better be using AA. While HDR is a cool effect I would never use HDR if it disabled AA.
 
ClearM4 said:
Agreed.
One thing that I like on the x1800 is HDR16+AA (These games: sc3, serious sam 2, aoe3, Farcry). Games look like sh** without AA and buying a highend card you better be using AA. While HDR is a cool effect I would never use HDR if it disabled AA.
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Right except no games support HDR+AA...
 
^eMpTy^ said:
If they were the exact same price I might give the edge to the x1800xl for it's overclocking headroom...but with 7800gt's available for $300, I have to recommend it over the x1800xl...
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i personally would be willing to pay 50 bucks more for a card with better overclocking head room
 
stock cooler go 7800gt
if u get awsome air or better cooling go 1800xl
 
fiberoptik said:
Doesn't steams tech demo level add on to HL2 support HDR and AA?
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HL2 lost coast does indeed have hdr and you can enable AA. I don't think it supports that with FP 16 precision or my cards would be able to run it at 4x or more playable.

Serious Sam 2 on the other hand actually does support FP 16 with HDR AA. There are a few bugs being worked out with that but there are games that support this and I assume this list will grow from here forward.
 
I would probably go with the X1800XL simply because of the HQ AF. I've heard some really good things about it.

Also, most reviews showed the X1800XL neck-to-neck with the 7800GT back when it was first launched. Considering that there have already been substancial driver improvements since then, I would suspect that the X1800XL has likely already pulled ahead of the 7800GT by a small margin.

But more importantly, get the X1800XL for the cool box j/k :D ......(but the box is cool).
 
NumbLock said:
Hm, that's interesting. I have heard that the XLs weren't really that good overclockers. Not so?
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My core does a 110 mhz overclock and the memory does 180 mhz over stock.
And this is considered to be on the low end of average overclocks for this card.
Many will do 625/700 range. So it basically performs like an X1800XT with half the memory.
The connect 3d cards are down to 349 - 10 MIR = 339 on Newegg.
 
ClearM4 said:
Agreed.
One thing that I like on the x1800 is HDR16+AA (These games: sc3, serious sam 2, aoe3, Farcry). Games look like sh** without AA and buying a highend card you better be using AA. While HDR is a cool effect I would never use HDR if it disabled AA.
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games look like sh** without AA cause you running 1280 res on a LCD screen.
I bet you it looks better at 2048x1535 no AA on a 21 in trinitron CRT. I prefer higher res than AA anyday. Think of it this way, ATI's AA algorithm is faster, but later on, when it's not fast enough to turn on AA, then really nonAA performance is what we should look at anyways
 
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