Diebold Admits Voting Machine Problem

Terry Olaes

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The Diebold subsidiary that manufactures the voting machines used in Humboldt County in CA and elsewhere admitted that the tabulation software on the machines can “miss significant events,” such as someone deleting votes on election day. Nice.

The revelation… has widespread implications for election jurisdictions around the country that use any version of the company's Global Election Management System (GEMS) software to tabulate votes. The GEMS software is used to tabulate votes cast on Premier/Diebold touch-screen and optical-scan machine, and is used in more than 1,400 election districts in 31 states. Maryland and Georgia use Premier/Diebold systems exclusively, therefore the GEMS software counts every vote statewide.
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So basically, their software has bugs like every other piece of software out there. Big surprise. Anyway, it's no worse than someone stuffing a ballot box, or throwing away paper votes. You'd also never find out.
 
I dont care how its done, but I think the government should standardize voting registration, and force everyone to do it the same way. And I guess USPS for the absentee shit.

No more bullshit.
 
Good lord. We just endured 2 years of camaining and other political nonsense, and the elections FINALLY got over with. Now Diebold brings it all back to life? Geeze just let the horse die. I want to enjoy two years of non-election.
 
This is why I have always been a proponent of punch card ballots being used, with polling places under the watch of the National Guard, with the punch cards delivered by armored car and counted by machine with cameras watching every step of the way and televised nationally.(that's what PBS is good for) The whole process would be under the supervision of the citizens. The only time that a ballot was alone with anyone and not on camera would be the voting booth. And ballot boxes would always be under the supervision of the NG and one Dem and one Rep representative. There would still be opportunity for fraud, but not on a wide scale basis.

Since this allegedly happened in CA, a state Republicans seldom win in presidential elections, (Reagan aside), and even if McCain had won CA Obama would still have won the presidency, this is somewhat meaning less so long as the issue is fixed. Unless wide spread abuse of this nature can be proven in other states, there is nothing to do about this aside from fix the issue and move on.
Obama is only going to be in office til 2012, hopefully whoever is next will cause less damage than our current one is doing, and our last 2 have done. I am not optimistic. :(
 
Dear USA,

Please use open source software in government applications like the rest of the developed countries of the world.

- velu
 
velusip said:
Dear USA,

Please use open source software in government applications like the rest of the developed countries of the world.

- velu
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Yes, let's give every would be hacker access to the source code so they can better know how to decide our elected officials for us. :rolleyes:

Get rid of the electronic voting machines all together. One ballot, one vote, counted under the scrutiny of the cameras and the people.
 
Josef Stalin said:
"Those who cast the votes decide nothing. Those who count the votes decide everything."
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Get rid of Diebold (Premier Election Systems) and only use paper ballots. Voter fraud is not half as bad as election fraud. It's been known since at least 2003 that there are "security weaknesses" in the software which has been confirmed by Rice and Johns Hopkins U.
 
nvidiapwnsati said:
was that how Obama won? :eek: :p:D
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Probably....that and the millions of people who didn't even look past his -*stops before political debate*


Anyways, they need to go back to either paper ballots or the pull handle machines or something, because this shit is insane.
 
devil22 said:
So basically, their software has bugs like every other piece of software out there. Big surprise. Anyway, it's no worse than someone stuffing a ballot box, or throwing away paper votes. You'd also never find out.
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True true. As soon as I heard they would be using software with voting machines, I knew this would happen. If one would to point to the most clueless organization when it comes to computing technology, it would be the government. As soon as I heard those idiots would be adopting a computerized method, I knew it'd be a wrap. They still have problems with fuckin spyware for Allah's sake.
 
teenk said:
Maybe. Or maybe the majority of Americans who voted were just sick of Republican BS. We'll never know.
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and thank god the president's term is only 4 years on this country would be annexed to china by time he's done with all his "print & spend ZOMG SAVE TEH ECONOMIES!!111!11!11!!!!!" bullshit...
 
fubar569 said:
and thank god the president's term is only 4 years on this country would be annexed to china by time he's done with all his "print & spend ZOMG SAVE TEH ECONOMIES!!111!11!11!!!!!" bullshit...
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This thread isn't about politics. Let's talk about how crappy Diebold is.
 
In August 2003, Walden O'Dell, then the chief executive of Diebold, announced that he had been a top fund-raiser for President George W. Bush and had sent a get-out-the-funds letter to 100 wealthy and politically inclined friends in the Republican Party, to be held at his home in a suburb of Columbus, Ohio.[7] When assailed by critics for the conflict of interest, he pointed out that the company's election machines division is run out of Texas by a registered Democrat. Nonetheless, he vowed to lower his political profile lest his personal actions harm the company.

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In this case, GEMS = the cubic zirconia someone gave their SO while saying it was a diamond. Actually, it's more like the moment the SO finds out it isn't a diamond.
 
aardvark sandwich said:
I dont care how its done, but I think the government should standardize voting registration, and force everyone to do it the same way.
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States run elections, not the federal government. So states should be in charge of their own election equipment. Even the Presidental election is not really a national election. You are really voting for someone in the electoral college in your state, who then will vote for the President.

Because states run elections, the cost of elections and the equipment vary wildly from state to state. It is one thing to run an election in Rhode Island. It is quite another to run one in California. While it would be great for everyone to run the same election machines, it just isn't economically feasible.

I do find it ironic that som many election reform laws came out after the 2000 election because people didn't trust simple punch cards. It seems the government has made things a whole lot worse with the newest computer-based election machines.
 
^^^ The Federal Government is over-riding all the state rights anymore the past 10 years or so, and especially now... what would stop them from mandating how elections are run?
 
It's time that they stop using that flawed company. I don't see how difficult this "software" can be and how complicated it can be from calculating how many of which buttons were pressed.
 
snowcat said:
It seems the government has made things a whole lot worse with the newest computer-based election machines.
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Like I said before: The government and computers is like a retarded toddler with a stick of dynamite.
 
"Diebold Admits to Diebold Problem"

fixed. you have to be some kind of stupid to not be able to make a secure voting machine. i mean, if some computer nerds can take burnout paradise and make it work perfectly on a pc without any bugs then how can a security company not be able to design a safe way to record "this guy" or "that guy"? this is blatant corruption here. diebold exectutives have been in bed with the feds forever, fuck diebold. iirc they were the ones complaining how difficult it would be to make paper receipts for all the votes :rolleyes:
 
twatt said:
Get rid of Diebold (Premier Election Systems) and only use paper ballots. Voter fraud is not half as bad as election fraud. It's been known since at least 2003 that there are "security weaknesses" in the software which has been confirmed by Rice and Johns Hopkins U.
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Or just get rid of all these bumbling fools and bring some fresh blood in.
 
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