Dell 2707WFP input lag experience? Please, help!

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I am extremely close to shelling out the money for this monitor as it is moderately cheap (almost 1300 USD; yes, it's cheaper in U.S. but here in Europe I find this to be rather cheap since the same sized Samsung costs 50%).

I also know that 24" LG should be a better buy, but I have to import it (not available in my country) plus the fact I own Samsung 213T for almost three years now and I find that the 24" offers somewhat too small size increase to justify the upgrade (i just get some 12 cm in horizontal). Plus, larger size will come handy in games and watching movies since I won't use a separate TV.

Now, I like the looks and the features of this Dell, but I'm afraid of this input lag issue. Supposedly it has (like all Samsung S-PVA w overdrive) 40+ ms which is a lot in comparison with LG 24" for instance, but I wonder how much is it noticeable in reality? I assume that my 213T has lag in range of this LG (which has minimal lag for an LCD) since it doesn't have overdrive.

I play games a lot, but not so much fast-paced online FPS (some America's Army now and then). What surprised me is that in all the comments I've read about this Dell, nobody really complained on input lag, although it's there in the numbers on that French page and the Anandtech review showed it to be behind 2405 which is also known to lag. On the other hand, Samsung 244T which has similar or somewhat stronger lag was wildly criticised by its owners which noticed it in desktop when moving the mouse.

I already reserved one and am supposed to pay for it tomorrow so some input from users would be largely appreciated. We don't have such good return policies here so I cannot try it out and return it (actually, I think I can if I buy it online so I don't have a chance to try it out before buying it, but it's a lot of hassle).

Thanks a lot in advance!

BTW, HP 30" is some $500 more but I find the pixel pitch of a 20" 1600*1200 too small for my comfort (in comparison with the one on my 21") meaning that I can't possible sit further away from this 30" beast and it seems too alrge to look at from this one feet distance I'm used to work with my 21". 27" has a larger dot pitch so if I move a bit back, I won't feel it as much.
 
Not sure what you mean by input lag??
But I have had the 2707WFP since May and it's been awsome to view.
No lag on mine and haven't noticed any ghosting either.
 
I don't recall input lag being one of the issues with the 2707WFP...of course some people are more sensitive to it than others. (just like ghosting)
 
This is the English version of lesnumeriques results:
http://www.digitalversus.com/duels.php?ty=6&ma1=50&mo1=235&p1=2236&ma2=88&mo2=174&p2=1747&ph=12
as has been pointed out before, there iseems to be something slightly amiss with 'lesnumeriques' lag tests of late - see 226CW, 245T & FP241VW. Maybe they've been leaving v-sync on whereas previously they didn't? In any case I'd look for other results to corroborate their suspect results. PRAD forum may be a place to look? There are a few threads on 2707.


PRAD have just recently put up their 275T review & they concluded that the 275T is 2 frames processor lag with native res, & 3 frames when the scaler is used
http://babelfish.altavista.com/babe...new/monitore/test/2007/test-samsung-275t.html
 
Got my 2707 yesterday and can't say I notice any lag. Fired up BF2 for a while and it was beautiful.
 
PRAD have just recently put up their 275T review & they concluded that the 275T is 2 frames processor lag with native res, & 3 frames when the scaler is used
http://babelfish.altavista.com/babe...new/monitore/test/2007/test-samsung-275t.html

PRAD also have tested the Dell 2707WFP . Here is what they have to say concerning input lag :

In addition, we noticed no delayed reaction, also known as mouse lag.
Link

More confusion ... :confused: I am also considering this monitor as Dell is having a sale locally. It cost just US$860 for this week.
 
PRAD also have tested the Dell 2707WFP . Here is what they have to say concerning input lag :

Link

More confusion ... :confused: I am also considering this monitor as Dell is having a sale locally. It cost just US$860 for this week.


I would jump on this deal in a heartbeat. 2707WFP cost $1200 up here in Canada.
 
I would jump on this deal in a heartbeat. 2707WFP cost $1200 up here in Canada.

Definitely. I paid it $1300 :( Rather satisfied, but have to test this input lag.

Also, I find that it has some texture feel to it, e.g. on this forum, the dark grey is textured.
 
I got my 2707wfp (Rev A01) and played with it all night. Here is my system:

CPU: Amd FX-60
Mem: Corsair 3500, 2Gb
Vid: BFG 8800GTS (640Mb) in SLi
OS: Win XP SP2

Monitor Settings: Everything Default except for Brightness 40/Contrast 60

What I used to test: CS:S, CoD4, BF2, BF2142, GRAW2, GW, Web, Pictures
Settings: All settings maxed

So I played games for about 8 hours last night and my first impression is the monitor out the box is very bright, had to tone it down. From there my eyeballs felt color is great out the box. I didn't notice any input lag (what I consider lag is when I click to fire the monitor displays it simultaniously) and didn't notice any ghosting. Some pics I had took show some slight ghost trails following movement in-game (CoD4) but thats expected for LCD type monitors. I even did the youtube ghost test (moving the recycle bin against a black background) and didn't notice the major ghost effect as seen on youtube. I'm coming off a Sony 19" LCD (damn you Sony, why did you stop making displays!) and before that a Sony CRT. The LCD was awesome but I felt it's time to step up to widescreen. In the past two monts I've tried the Gateway FHD2400 and LG 24 but returned both. For the Gateway, colors were great and vibrant, lag was the same as 2707, but the vertical viewing angles were bad. For the LG, it lacked colors and the lag was horrible. Now for what some are reporting as a grainy look on the 2707wfp. In fonts (web surfing, document reading) the grainy look is not as evident. In pictures though, the bigger pixel pitch is evident. To me, now that I have experienced it myself, a bigger pixel pitch makes pictures seem not as defined, not neccessarily having anything to do with sharpness, just defined. Pictures are still sharp, games are still great, just not as defined. It's like writing with a pen with a slightly larger tip. Very slight. I'm happy so far, I got it from Costco.com ($999, shipping included), so I'll play with it for 90 days and see if I'll keep it, if not I'll return it for a refund. I'm waiting for expert reviews on the new Dell 2408wfp. Maybe I'll try that one too. As for the 2707, I'll be playing with it more and report anything significant as it comes along.
 
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