Dell 2007WFP -- Worth it?

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wowolaf

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I'm currently gaming on a NEC 90GX2, and I'm quite pleased with it. I am passively looking to buy a widescreen monitor, and I recently found out that I can get the 2007wfp for $339, which is within my $350 price ceiling. The listed 16ms reponse time scares the hell out of me, as a gamer, even though I've read that it competes with 5ms monitors in terms of gaming performance. Can anyone who has gamed on the 2007wfp confirm that it's competitive with monitors as low as 5ms? The NEC has a listed 4ms time, and while I don't notice any ghosting on it, any ghosting, even minor, that's readily apparent sticks out like a sore thumb to me. I cannot stress enough how even the slightest amount of noticeable ghosting will severely diminish the appeal of any given monitor to me.

So, if anyone could comment on how the Dell 2007wfp performs on gaming when set next to other monitors typically used for gaming (90GX2, 226BW, other 2ms/5ms monitors), and if anyone knows or has a link, how the 2007wfp is with input lag issues. Also, two more questions:

1. What's the panel lottery like these days? I hear most, but not all, are receiving S-IPS.
2. What's Dell's monitor return policy? I don't plan on buying it if there's no way to return it on the sole basis of my not liking it.

Sorry to sound like a curmudgeon, but I spend tons of time in front of this screen for both work and recreation, so I'd like my money to be well spent.

(I'm impartial on the glossy vs. matte screen issue; I've used both, and enjoy the advantages of each without being too bothered by the drawbacks, so this screen being matte doesn't bother me despite my choice of a glossy as my current.)

Thanks for any who can help :)
 
haha, I just posted the exact same question 10 min ago. I'm wondering the exact same thing, because I keep reading about how good these S-IPS 2007WFP are. I spoke with a dell customer service guy and according to him, these are shipping out with S-PVA panels. I don't know how reliable that info is though.

On some other forums, I've read that people are getting Made in Mexico, June 2007 models with S-IPS, and Made in Mexico, July 2007 with S-IPS. And also some received monitors with the S-PVA panels as well, from the same production date.

Also, dell has the monitor for sale at $319 right now. Add tax and recycling fee for CA. Free shipping.
 
Actually the 16ms response time listed is for black to white, the 2007WFP has 5-8ms if you list is grey to grey like all other monitors
 
Alright, I'm seriously considering this. Could someone more knowledgeable than I in hardware performance tell me if I'll see a performance drop from 1280x1024 to 1680x1050? I'm on 4GB DD2800 and have an 8800 GTS 640MB.

Also, I'm still worried about the panel lottery -- will Dell refund my monitor? Persistence is not an issue here, I've already returned many monitors, and I'm okay returning a few more if it leads to my being happy with one, so long as Dell will let me.
 
wowolaf said:
Alright, I'm seriously considering this. Could someone more knowledgeable than I in hardware performance tell me if I'll see a performance drop from 1280x1024 to 1680x1050? I'm on 4GB DD2800 and have an 8800 GTS 640MB.

Also, I'm still worried about the panel lottery -- will Dell refund my monitor? Persistence is not an issue here, I've already returned many monitors, and I'm okay returning a few more if it leads to my being happy with one, so long as Dell will let me.
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I recently made the switch in resolutions you specified and I find that the majority of titles perform similarly with an 8800GTS 320. The difference should be even less with a 640MB model. Of course, it depends greatly on the game. Halo 2, Supreme Commander, Half Life 2 and Prey all perform well for me with 4xAA and high details.

If you like the 90GX2 you might like the 20WMGX2, although it is very expensive compared to the Dell. There's no guarantee of an IPS panel with the Dell, but for the price it's an outstanding monitor. I've heard stories about people returning their unit and calling to ask for an IPS panel and being rewarded with one the 2nd time around.
 
Dell allow you to return the monitor within a set period - check your local Dell website for the policy in your area.

I own a A04 S-IPS 2007WFP and find it is excellent for gaming, no ghosting I can notice, performes about the same as a 5ms TN in my opinion (I briefly had a 226BW).

All of the S-IPS 2007WFP have a serial number ending in L so you could perhaps negotiate for one like that with the sales rep? (PVA panel ends in S).
 
I had a 226BW S-panel alongside a 2007WFP for a while, running in clone mode to see how they differ on ghosting and gaming. With Overdrive on, the Samsung tested as definitely faster when I used PixPerAn's little racing car and text - it's immediately noticable.

In games, however, the difference seemed to be a about nil. I couldn't pick out any problems with the response time on the 2007WFP. Between the BW and WFP, the BW is undoubtedly faster, but the WFP is also fast itself - good enough for my purposes.

The 226BW's TN panel quirks drove me insane though, since I think I've become accustomed to IPS panels over the last few years on my 2001FP.

If you've got a Fry's or Best Buy nearby, both seem to happily stock most of Samsung's monitor range and don't charge restocking fees (Fry's - 30 days, BB - 14 days) for opened monitors. I just bought both, and have the 226BW boxed up and ready to take back to Fry's now.
 
Destroid said:
All of the S-IPS 2007WFP have a serial number ending in L so you could perhaps negotiate for one like that with the sales rep? (PVA panel ends in S).
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you can make a request to a sales rep? how??! call customer support and place an order with a "special request"?
 
Don't see why not, the sales reps should be able to put special requests on the order when they send it to the warehouse.

Another option is to go to a Dell booth thingy, cant recall what they call them, they set them up in shopping complexes and the like.
 
Destroid said:
Dell allow you to return the monitor within a set period - check your local Dell website for the policy in your area.

I own a A04 S-IPS 2007WFP and find it is excellent for gaming, no ghosting I can notice, performes about the same as a 5ms TN in my opinion (I briefly had a 226BW).

All of the S-IPS 2007WFP have a serial number ending in L so you could perhaps negotiate for one like that with the sales rep? (PVA panel ends in S).
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I've heard about the L thing but i thought that was in the on screen display, are you saying this is on the outside of the box and they can tell before it gets shipped now? Is this a recent thing? because i dont recall them having anything like that several months ago.

Also, going to a kiosk wont help, they dont know dick there, i tried asking a guy there at a mall about the dell loterry during the winter and he knew nothing (they had a 2007WFP sitting there), they didnt even know anything about the monitor period, less setting up an actual order for one.
 
Sigh... I have an a03 ips panel. For gaming the monitor is pretty awesome, I use a ps3 w/ hdmi->DVI cable and it works great @ 720p also xbox360 w/VGA @1280x1024 looks awesome as well; no ghosting that I can see.

I usually have the ps3 taking up the DVI out, and my PC using the VGA out; this is where I'm less than happy. Through VGA w/ 8800gts 1680x1050@60hz I get pretty bad eye strain after only a short period of time plus the image quality is less than spectacular compared to DVI.

I actually used my roommates Samsung 226BW for a day with the same results. I think I just need something like a 37w3 that can accept all of my components that way I can use HDMI, DVI, and VGA all at the same time without disconnecting the 360/PC all the time... Anyone interested in buying a second hand 2007wfp?
 
It seems you pretty much have to buy an expensive TV if you want anything but the DVI to function correctly, although that said my friends 42" Sony gets a slight shadow on vga.


With regard to the 2007WFP I don't know if you can tell from the outside of the box, but the serial number is on the back near the power plug.
 
yeah but if you have to open the box either way it doesnt really help that much (unless you're getting a refurb i suppose, but then thats presuming they've always done the serial thing like that as well, since refurbs can sometimes be older.
 
xsoulbrothax said:
I had a 226BW S-panel alongside a 2007WFP for a while, running in clone mode to see how they differ on ghosting and gaming. With Overdrive on, the Samsung tested as definitely faster when I used PixPerAn's little racing car and text - it's immediately noticable.

In games, however, the difference seemed to be a about nil. I couldn't pick out any problems with the response time on the 2007WFP. Between the BW and WFP, the BW is undoubtedly faster, but the WFP is also fast itself - good enough for my purposes.

The 226BW's TN panel quirks drove me insane though, since I think I've become accustomed to IPS panels over the last few years on my 2001FP.

If you've got a Fry's or Best Buy nearby, both seem to happily stock most of Samsung's monitor range and don't charge restocking fees (Fry's - 30 days, BB - 14 days) for opened monitors. I just bought both, and have the 226BW boxed up and ready to take back to Fry's now.
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Thanks so much for your input, much appreciated.
 
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