Defragmentation Question *pic*

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Mycophiles

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I hadn't run a defrag in a couple of months. I've run disk defrag 4 times and run 0&0 defrag twice.

This is what my HD looks like.

Please don't flame me for having NTFS I didn't know what I was doing when I formatted so that's what I choose.

defrag.jpg


Why doesn't this defrag look like what I see on other HD's. It looks a wreck! Can I do anything to fix this other than format and reinstall?
 
thers that one program thats always in PC mag, and its supposed to be the best disk checker program out there. sorry, can't remember what it is right now. perhaps someone that gets pcmag can shed some light on this program name.
 
BTW I highly doubt any will flame you for having NTFS. It's generaly a better Filesystem than Fat32.
 
The drive shows a 10% of fragmentation, nothing to worry about :D

OldMX
 
the picture doesn't really tell me anything (personally, dunno about others). i just look at the percentage of the drive that's fragmented and the fragments per file to decide if i really want to defrag or not. afterall, the drive is pretty full
 
If you're moving files a lot and installing reinstalling a ton of stuff it's going to get like that fast.

-Tron
 
I'm trying to figure out why my computer is running slowly. It doesn't crash but when windows explorer comes up it takes a while for the screen to come up. I have flashed the bios, made sure ALL drivers are updated, overclocked the chip to 2.4 and now I'm trying to optimize windows as best I can. (ohh.. and I've set the folders to display by index also.)

the computer has a gig of corsaire/samsung memory so it's not outof memory but I can't seem to find what is keeping the computer from flying.

i use a win98 computer at work with a 1.2 and 256megs ram at work and it will display explorer faster than my comp. with winxp.

I figured if the drive was defragged it would slow the computer down and my drive doesn't 'look' anything like my sisters. I was told that ntfs doesn't defrag and doesn't work as well as fat 32 but I don't know shit about that so I just guess.

Anyway, I'm lost.
 
You might want to just reformat and start over. I see you have another HD so you can just put all the stuff you need onto that and format the drive that you want the OS on. There is nothing wrong with NTFS and it doesn't defrag any better or worse than fat32.
 
Wow that's messed up.

First of all I believe Defrag needs at least 20% free disk space to defrag, otherwise it won't let you, as in this case.

Secondly, in the Analysis Report screen, you have a lot of 700+ meg files... movies perhaps? ;) ;) With huge files like those, you'll never get it to look 'right'.
 
The Defrag app in XP is also availabel from the "DOS" command prompt, or you can make a *.bat file and execute that when you want to optimize your drives. I have one and it looks like this :

Please modify for Your current setup! Bat file starts her :

echo off
echo -E's cleanup XP and Defrag automated - please modify for Your current settings!
c:
cd "C:\Documents and Settings\USERNAME\Local Settings\Temp"
del /q /s /f *.*
cd "C:\Documents and Settings\USERNAME\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files"
del /q /s /f *.*
cd "C:\Windows\Temp"
del /q /s /f *.*
echo Defragging WINBOOT C:
defrag c: -f -v
echo Defragging GAMES D:
defrag d: -f -v
echo Defragging STUFF E:
defrag e: -f -v
pause

Bat file ends here(don't include this line.)

Be very careful with this one - it deletes files without asking!
But it is handier that way, otherwise it will ask you for every file.
The flags on defrag are -f (FORCE) -v (Verbose = More info)
When the file is done, the pause command makes it stop, and will tell you to press the anykey... That's the way I like it, that way I can see what it has done. If you remove pause, the commandprompt will close by itself.

Please double tjeck all drive letters, usernames etc. before you run this. (Hehe It sounds like I have forgotten once... ;) , maybe I have..)

enjoy
 
Originally posted by FiZ
You might want to just reformat and start over. I see you have another HD so you can just put all the stuff you need onto that and format the drive that you want the OS on. There is nothing wrong with NTFS and it doesn't defrag any better or worse than fat32.
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I agree. Or you could try: Start>Run> Type "msconfig", and hit enter. Look for any uneeded programs or services that start up with Windows. Also, it is true you need at least 20% free space to Defrag. I like NTFS better than FAT32 just because of cluster size.
 
I had never heard about that 20% free space needed to defrag so I looked around and got this from microsoft
Calculating Required Free Space

As noted above, in the section describing the Master File Table, one-eighth of a disk is allocated to the MFT zone. Although this area is marked as free space, it is reserved by Windows 2000 for the exclusive use of the MFT. When defragmenting, the Disk Defragmenter cannot take advantage of this space by moving files into the MFT zone. So when calculating the amount of free space available for defragmentation, you must subtract about 12 percent from the free space reported by Windows Explorer. It is recommended that you maintain about 30 percent of any NTFS-formatted disk as free space to ensure that you have sufficient room for effective defragmentation.
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http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/techinfo/administration/fileandprint/defrag.asp

If anybody cares ;)
 
and you're sure defrag's actually finishing rather than just giving up?


But yeah, if you've got a lot of 700+MB files, and all those unmovable files, it might not be able to get everything moved around properly. Burn your porn to CD, delete it & see what happens.
 
defragmentation is going to be different between programs. honestly, windows 2000 and windows xp defragment application is perfect and no other appplication is really needed, seriously. the gains that are given by certain application fit a business model rather than end user usage. if you are going to use an application you need to only use it and configure it properly to your system needs that promote better disk activity.

the reason for your slow down could be so many. i would not be necessarily looking at fragmentation causing you performance issue.
 
defragmentation is going to be different between programs. honestly, windows 2000 and windows xp defragment application is perfect and no other appplication is really needed, seriously. the gains that are given by certain application fit a business model rather than end user usage. if you are going to use an application you need to only use it and configure it properly to your system needs that promote better disk activity.
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I think I'll still use O&O Defrag COMPLETE/Name :D .
 
You need at least 30% of your disk free in order to defragment the volume. From what i've read. No defragmenter will properly defragment a file system with less than that. You can try perfectdisk, that is what I use and i'm happy with it.
 
I don't know where everyone got the idea that I have movies on my computer. Those 700mb files are paintings that have been blown up to huge proportions for editing and printing.



And I also have 10 million dollers in my bank account. ;)
 
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