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Deer PSU = Best PSU?

Egg_Shen

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My PSU is a Deer 300W :) it's been pretty good for my system for 3 years. Now I that I bought a 9800 Pro I've been getting random resets once every couples days.... :(

Athlon 1500+ XP
512 DDR 266mhz
60 gig 7200 rpm
9800 Pro
CD - RW
Floppy Drive
Sound card
NIC
USB printer, webcam, digi cam

Temps
CPU = 53 - 60 C
Case = 40 - 53 C

I want to get a new ANTEC TRUEBLUE 480W ATX POWER SUPPLY or something like that. What do you guys suggest?

The thing is my case doesn't have extra holes for a second PSU fan. Will a PSU with 2 fans work on my case?
 
Deer PSU = POS :p

Whats your budget? I would get the Truepower 480W or PCP & Cooling
 
2 fans doesn't mean it's a different size or anything, it means that on the underside of the supply there is another fan, like on the inside pulling air from the inside of the case into the supply which is then exhausted out the rear fan
 
I have a TrueBlue 480 (same as true power), runs my system fine and I can barley hear it. It's a great buy.
 
Egg_Shen said:
My PSU is a Deer 300W :) it's been pretty good for my system for 3 years. Now I that I bought a 9800 Pro I've been getting random resets once every couples days.... :(

Athlon 1500+ XP
512 DDR 266mhz
60 gig 7200 rpm
9800 Pro
CD - RW
Floppy Drive
Sound card
NIC
USB printer, webcam, digi cam

Temps
CPU = 53 - 60 C
Case = 40 - 53 C

I want to get a new ANTEC TRUEBLUE 480W ATX POWER SUPPLY or something like that. What do you guys suggest?

The thing is my case doesn't have extra holes for a second PSU fan. Will a PSU with 2 fans work on my case?

Looks like you were a bit soft on the power side to start with, that 9800 pushed you over the top.

The Antec you are looking at is indeed a good choice plus you will have the advantage of being able to upgrade to a bigger CPU, more drives and or mother board later with out having to worry about power.

As Vertigo explained, the one fan will help suck heat out of the case (it’s located right above your CPU) and the other blows out all the accumulated heat helping keep your PSU cool.

Judging by your posted temps, I might suggest investing in a more efficient HSF combo and perhaps bigger or more case fans to lower overall system and CPU temperatures. A cooler computer is a longer lasting computer.

Luck
 
ycchan said:
Deer PSU = POS :p

L&C otherwise know as DEER is about as bad as it gets
knowingly using one is a sign of a deep seated deathwish
consult a pyschologist immediatety :p

(couldnt help myself)


cut and paste

kesv said:
inet said:
Do the math here: http://www.jscustompcs.com/power_supply/
There's a good chance you will need a bigger PSU than the 470..
And once again. Let's not forget that these calculators are absolute worst case.

well as far as calculators goes, that one sucks (sorry)
its very important to actually determine the amps per rail
and not all calculators are automatically the worse case senerio
I use > takaman's Power Supply Calaculator v2
which does have the option to set a utilization percentage, and to manually enter amp values for a given component
which is very handy if you have real world test values like
Power Consumption of Contemporary Graphics Accelerators: ATi
Power Consumption of Contemporary Graphics Accelerators: Nvidia
(all the better because they break out the draw between the AGP and the auxillary connector, which on an ATX12V v2.0 is on different +12V rails)
and various databases like Processor Electrical Specifications
(if the board has a +12V auxillary you add to the +12V otherwise it goes on the +5V rail,
and you convert the watts to amps for the appropriate rail, AMPS = Watts / Voltage)
or the actual spec sheets on the components (like say from Seagate)

that way Im able to run multiple calculations
first I do a "full" calculation, of all the additive maximums of the components
then for an ATX12V v2.0 supply or an EPS12V supply I repeat that for the +12V1, +12V2 and additionaly for EPS12V +12V3\+12V4 rails

then I run a "realworld" worse case senerio,
Its just as likely Im helping someone calculate a NAS as a lean gaming rig
so a "spinup" calculation is the first criteria
all the fans and HDDs\RAID arrays at 100% value and a 25% value for the CPU\GPU, often that will tell me if a more powerful supply is needed simply to boot or if the NAS\SAN need to employ a controller with a delayed spinup option
(common on SCSI controllers, and found on quite a few ATA)
once the fans and HDDs are spinning they will drop to 1\4 of their full rating, so I recalculate with that value as a static load, and throw in a 100% CPU\GPU and single optical (full spinup draw) for a worse case senerio realworld


Interpreting the veracity of a manufacturer is the tricky part
since we dont get to actually see the engineering test specs
which will typically say sometghing like
rated for full power at 25C decreasing linearly to no power at 70C
and your operating temperature being around 40C

generally I start with deducting a third off the rated amps for temperature
and then start to match to the baselines, factor in thermal considerations (PSU placement, type of thermal solution for the rig,) and special factors like overclocking or usage patterns (NAS\Server\Workstation\word processor :p ),

when I actually make recommendations however I typical build in a healthier safety value than the "real world" worse case senerio unless someone has specifically stated they are running a UPS
 
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